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Ah. I understand now. Yeah. It wasn’t super cold. The wind sucked though. and I’m almost at old man level. First time we had walked her below freezing though. She has relatively short hair. Didn’t seem to mind it.

You are sounding like an old man "still made the dog loop" when it is marginally cold lol

Was down in Boston for the day, saw a flurry down there, came back to full on winter. Driving through the notch was not fun.

Honestly doesn't look like anything exciting next ten days, but it's only mid-November so it's not really a loss. I start paying more attention after Thanksgiving, as futile as that can still be around here

TT said -30.

Yes for sure but I think we had a few years of excess water vapor from Tonga which is finally starting to lessen. It gave an artificial boost to the CC which of course is continuing

Finally feels like winter let's get this thing rockin and rolling ,,,,,,,,,,,let it snow let it snow let it snow!!!!!

That's not 30 below

GFS is just embarrassing https://x.com/webberweather/status/1988358827478302994?s=46&t=5ny5bPgiX5Vy3bQMvYTY5g

Ended up with a coating so we’re on the board.

I believe that 51 knots (59 mph) at islip. A few gusts were very high end.

It’s been trending colder . Something to watch with the blocking

I said below 30

28.4° -SN Very light coating

Yes, this was weird. I'm beginning my 4th winter in Garrett County and I've found that the Davis 3SE observer consistently gets 50% more snow than I do. I get 5...he gets 7-8, I get 4, he gets 6 and so forth. For me to get under 3 and he reports 14 is highly unusual. I drove there this morning and as I gained altitude on Rte 90, it was like someone turned on a switch by the time I got to Tucker County. Davis is generally the winner in my area but to jackpot like this (hell, a day and a half ago, Tucker County didn't even have a WWA) made me scratch my head - and pout.

Nice follow up stat: today on 11-11 we tied for our 11th earliest snowfall. I'd play that number. Unless you want to be a downer and bump it up to 8th because of the ties. 10 18 2015 10 27 2016 10 29 2000 10 29 2011 10 30 2020 11 2 2002 11 7 2012 11 8 2010 11 8 2019 11 11 1996 11 11 2025 11 12 2013 11 13 1997 11 13 2003 11 13 2004 11 15 2018 11 18 2008 11 20 2017 11 22 2006 11 22 2024 11 23 2005 11 26 2014 11 26 2021 11 28 2023 11 29 1995 11 29 1999 12 2 2007 12 5 2009 12 11 2022 12 17 2001 12 23 1998

I did a little data mining of my snowfall records. Over the past 30 winters (31 if you count through today), our average date of first snowfall (measurable or otherwise) is November 17. Our average date of the last snowfall is March 31. I've got a little PTSD from rehashing 2011-12 and a couple of others. Here are the details (assuming it pastes legibly): Winter First Snowfall Amount First Measurable Amount Last Snowfall Amount Last Measurable Amount 1995-1996 11/29/1995 4.0 11/29/1995 4.0 4/10/1996 7.0 4/10/1996 7.0 1996-1997 11/11/1996 T 11/28/1996 0.1 4/19/1997 T 4/9/1997 0.5 1997-1998 11/13/1997 T 12/10/1997 0.5 4/10/1998 T 3/22/1998 1.6 1998-1999 12/23/1998 0.7 12/23/1998 0.7 4/11/1999 T 3/15/1999 7.1 1999-2000 11/29/1999 T 12/22/1999 0.1 4/11/2000 T 4/9/2000 0.9 2000-2001 10/29/2000 T 12/8/2000 0.4 4/18/2001 T 3/26/2001 2.0 2001-2002 12/17/2001 T 1/7/2002 2.8 4/6/2002 T 3/18/2002 0.2 2002-2003 11/2/2002 T 11/27/2002 1.2 4/8/2003 T 4/7/2003 6.2 2003-2004 11/13/2003 T 12/5/2003 7.5 3/19/2004 3.6 3/19/2004 3.6 2004-2005 11/13/2004 0.2 11/13/2004 0.2 3/24/2005 1.6 3/24/2005 1.6 2005-2006 11/23/2005 T 11/24/2005 1.0 4/8/2006 T 3/2/2006 4.0 2006-2007 11/22/2006 T 1/19/2007 0.6 4/6/2007 T 3/16/2007 4.8 2007-2008 12/2/2007 0.9 12/2/2007 0.9 3/1/2008 0.6 3/1/2008 0.6 2008-2009 11/18/2008 T 12/6/2008 0.7 4/8/2009 T 3/2/2009 8.9 2009-2010 12/5/2009 T 12/9/2009 1.2 3/4/2010 0.2 3/4/2010 0.2 2010-2011 11/8/2010 T 12/13/2010 0.3 4/1/2011 T 3/24/2011 2.0 2011-2012 10/29/2011 T 1/21/2012 4.0 2/12/2012 0.1 2/12/2012 0.1 2012-2013 11/7/2012 2.0 11/7/2012 2.0 3/25/2013 T 3/21/2013 0.5 2013-2014 11/12/2013 0.3 11/12/2013 0.3 4/16/2014 0.2 4/16/2014 0.2 2014-2015 11/26/2014 T 12/8/2014 0.1 3/30/2015 T 3/29/2015 0.2 2015-2016 10/18/2015 T 12/29/2015 0.1 4/9/2016 T 3/3/2016 0.3 2016-2017 10/27/2016 T 11/21/2016 0.6 3/18/2017 T 3/14/2016 4.5 2017-2018 11/20/2017 T 12/9/2017 3.7 4/2/2018 6.1 4/2/2018 6.1 2018-2019 11/15/2018 4.5 11/15/2018 4.5 4/5/2019 T 3/4/2019 3.0 2019-2020 11/8/2019 T 12/1/2019 0.2 5/9/2020 T 1/18/2020 3.0 2020-2021 10/30/2020 T 12/16/2020 5.0 4/16/2021 T 2/20/2021 0.5 2021-2022 11/26/2021 T 12/24/2021 0.4 3/27/2022 T 2/13/2022 0.1 2022-2023 12/11/2022 T 12/12/2022 0.6 3/14/2023 2.0 3/14/2023 2.0 2023-2024 11/28/2023 T 1/6/2024 0.2 3/10/2024 T 2/17/2024 3.0 2024-2025 11/22/2024 T 12/5/2024 1.0 2/20/2025 0.2 2/20/2025 0.2 2025-2026 11/11/2025 T

What's crazy is just like last fall, we have been mostly +PNA since mid-Oct, and really since mid-Sept mostly +PNA. If that holds most of winter it would be unusual.

It’s well north

Or who said 30 below?

Not really that crazy, the same thing happened in Feb 2018.

Indeed, there’s a much greater % of the conus with BN vs AN in weeks 1-2 of Dec.

I hope you're right and we can make a few chances verify. The outcomes can't get much worse than the last few winters so there's that. I did relatively well for the coastal plain/NYC area with 19.3" last winter and that's maybe 60% of average with how many cold enough for snow days we had.

Oh

What a way to start the season!