Monty Posted yesterday at 08:33 AM Share Posted yesterday at 08:33 AM 1 hour ago, gravitylover said: There are a few types of plants that are looking weak due to disrupted development from that freeze. Some don't really show it but, because they started flowering and the flowers froze they won't be fruiting and seed production will be severely reduced. My Wisteria browned out, my hostas look like they were scorched. Worst freeze in 20 years for tree fruits and the wine industry from VA through the northeast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted yesterday at 08:50 AM Share Posted yesterday at 08:50 AM 2 hours ago, jm1220 said: We need one or two loaded up El Niño southern jet setups to make it this far north with cold air. We don’t want too much blocking to squash everything south. Agree but I doubt that would happen with a strong el nino unless a big block forms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted yesterday at 09:04 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:04 AM 55 / 39 pretty much basically a repeat of Thursday today. Cloudy showers/ cooler Saturday. Warmer Mothers Day but clouds could cling on. Overall cooler and wetter weerk 5/9 - 5/16. Moderation towards the 17th and perhaps more persistent warmth in the 5/24 period / beyond. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted yesterday at 09:07 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:07 AM Records: Highs: EWR: 92 (2000) NYC: 91 (2000) LGA: 89 (2000) JFK: 86 (1964) Lows: EWR: 35 (1947) NYC: 36 (2020) LGA: 37 (1947) JFK: 39 (2020) Historical: 1784 - A deadly hailstorm in South Carolina hit the town of Winnsborough. The hailstones, measuring as much as nine inches in circumference, killed several persons, and a great number of sheep, lambs and birds. (David Ludlum) 1803 - A freak spring storm produced heavy snow from southern Indiana to New England. The storm made sleighing possible in Massachusetts, but also ruined shade trees in Philadelphia. (David Ludlum) 1840: Natchez, Mississippi: May 7-8th one of the most deadly tornado in US history strikes Natchez and Natchez Landing on the Mississippi, killing 317. (Ref. Wx. Doctor) 1874: A deadly hailstorm in South Carolina hit the town of Winnsborough. The hailstones, measuring as much as nine inches in circumference, killed several persons, and a great number of sheep, lambs and birds. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1917: Richmond, VA had a high temperature for the day of 47 °F making it the coolest May day on record (records since 1897). (Ref. Richmond Weather Records - KRIC) 1965: A strong cold front helped produce a major tornado outbreak across central and eastern Nebraska and South Dakota. Four people were killed in Nebraska in an F4 tornado. An F5 tornado hit southern South Dakota. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1974: Record Minimum temperature for Washington, DC for the date is 39 °F. 1981 - The Dallas/Fort Worth area experienced its worst hailstorm of record as baseball to grapefruit size hail, accompanied by 100 mph winds, caused nearly 200 million dollars damage. Hail accumulated eight inches deep at Cedar Hill TX. (The Weather Channel) 1987 - Twenty-eight cities in the northwestern U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date. The record high of 95 degrees at Redding CA was their fifth in a row, and the record high of 102 degrees at Hanover WA was just one degree shy of their record for May. (The National Weather Summary) 1988 - Thunderstorms in the Mississippi Valley spawned a total of 57 tornadoes, including 24 in Wisconsin, and a record 22 tornadoes in one day in Iowa. There were also more than 200 reports of large hail and damaging winds. Baseball size hail was reported at Terre Bonne Mo. At Rockford IL one person was temporarily trapped inside a portable toilet toppled by thunderstorm winds gusting to 80 mph. Fortuntely, not a single person was killed in the "Mother's Day" tornado outbreak. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1989 - Twenty-one cities in the eastern U.S. reported record low temperatures for the date. Lows of 28 degrees at Asheville NC and 31 degrees at Greer SC were records for May. (The National Weather Summary) 1990 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather in northwestern and north central Kansas during the evening and night. Thunderstorms produced hail three inches in diameter at Brewster, and wind gusts to 92 mph south of Wakeeney. Thunderstorms over northwest Iowa deluged the town of Boone with five inches of rain flooding basements and leaving some areas under four feet of water. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted yesterday at 09:08 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:08 AM First 7 days of May Dep Through the 7 LGA: -1.3 NYC: -1.2 JFK: -0.3 EWR: +0.5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted yesterday at 09:09 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:09 AM Anyone else notice that the freeze a couple weeks back after 90 degree temps ended up damaging and killing some oak and japanese maple leaves that were leafing out Brown and shriveled. Doesnt happen often. Just a cae of bad tining Google says they will releaf but with smaller leavesNo freeze here in Nassua. My early girl tomatoes which have been in since early April are taking off now. One thing we do have is damage to broad leaf evergreens from the winter. Especially skip laurel and Japanese acuba. My red rocket crape mryrle which died back to the ground in 15 made it this year though and is finally starting to leaf out. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyHolikWillFindYou Posted yesterday at 09:13 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:13 AM Mother's day is trending wetter. Got tickets to Grounds for Sculpture down in Hamilton, crossing my fingers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted yesterday at 09:14 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:14 AM 39 minutes ago, Monty said: My Wisteria browned out, my hostas look like they were scorched. Worst freeze in 20 years for tree fruits and the wine industry from VA through the northeast. Only thing that truly got damaged was my citronella I had just transplanted. Most of it browned but is coming back nicely. My catnip looked bad too but rebounded. Hostas curled up but nothing died thankfully. Any veggies we had in pots outside were dead on night two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted yesterday at 09:37 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 09:37 AM 23 minutes ago, BobbyHolikWillFindYou said: Mother's day is trending wetter. Got tickets to Grounds for Sculpture down in Hamilton, crossing my fingers. Sunday looks great. No rain til at night 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted yesterday at 09:41 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:41 AM 49 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Agree but I doubt that would happen with a strong el nino unless a big block forms. Next winter is toast if this plays out like they say. Awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted yesterday at 09:46 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:46 AM 15 hours ago, winterwarlock said: Anyone else notice that the freeze a couple weeks back after 90 degree temps ended up damaging and killing some oak and japanese maple leaves that were leafing out Brown and shriveled. Doesnt happen often. Just a cae of bad tining Google says they will releaf but with smaller leaves Yes, I noticed lots of damage to many plants around my property and when taking the dogs for a walk around the neighborhood. My one Magnolia (about 25' tall) took the biggest hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted yesterday at 11:00 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:00 AM 1 hour ago, the_other_guy said: Next winter is toast if this plays out like they say. Awful if we get a super nino we'll need to hope for one big bomb 1983 or 2016 style 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted yesterday at 11:02 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:02 AM 1 hour ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: No freeze here in Nassua. My early girl tomatoes which have been in since early April are taking off now. One thing we do have is damage to broad leaf evergreens from the winter. Especially skip laurel and Japanese acuba. My red rocket crape mryrle which died back to the ground in 15 made it this year though and is finally starting to leaf out. . Looking around this area there’s lots of tree damage I assume from the winter storms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted yesterday at 11:04 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:04 AM 1 hour ago, the_other_guy said: Next winter is toast if this plays out like they say. Awful A strong or super Nino ensures there’s lots of mild Pacific air flooding in. But it will also be moist and we won’t have the endless cutters/SWFE we sometimes see in Nina’s. It’ll be southern stream driven and we have to hope to time one or two of them with cold enough air. We all know what happened in Nino seasons like 2002-03, 2009-10, 1982-83, 2015-16 etc. If only 2/6/10 could’ve edged north a little more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted yesterday at 01:00 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 01:00 PM Of course now the models do bring in some rain sunday afternoon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 6 hours ago, the_other_guy said: Next winter is toast if this plays out like they say. Awful Dude its may. No one knows what next weeks weather will be like let alone next winter. Long range forecasting has been awful for years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWestNJ Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 5 hours ago, jm1220 said: A strong or super Nino ensures there’s lots of mild Pacific air flooding in. But it will also be moist and we won’t have the endless cutters/SWFE we sometimes see in Nina’s. It’ll be southern stream driven and we have to hope to time one or two of them with cold enough air. We all know what happened in Nino seasons like 2002-03, 2009-10, 1982-83, 2015-16 etc. If only 2/6/10 could’ve edged north a little more. Wasn't 2002-03 not nearly as strong a Nino as those others though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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donsutherland1 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago Somewhat cooler weather will continue through the remainder of the week. The first 10 days of May will likely see temperatures average cooler than normal normal overall. Showers are possible tomorrow into tomorrow evening as a warm front moves across the region. Sunday will turn warmer with highs reaching the 70s. Additional rain and somewhat cooler conditions will return for Sunday night into Monday. Rainfall amounts are not likely to be significant. In the long-range, there has been a shift in the guidance toward a near or somewhat warmer than normal second half of May. The probability of a warmer than normal second half of May has increased. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +1.3°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was +0.9°C for the week centered around April 29. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +1.47°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +0.42°C. El Niño conditions will likely develop during late spring or early summer. The SOI was -0.90 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -0.612 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied near 60% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal May (1991-2020 normal). May will likely finish with a mean temperature near 62.2° (1.0° below normal). Supplemental Information: The projected mean would be 0.2° below the 1981-2010 normal monthly value. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhiEaglesfan712 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 13 hours ago, MJO812 said: The STJ should be active. Thats step 1. Step 2 would be blocking. Step 3 would be a negative EPO/ AO. 2009-10 is a perfect example that proves that a strong el nino winter can be cold and snowy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 12 hours ago, PhiEaglesfan712 said: 2009-10 is a perfect example that proves that a strong el nino winter can be cold and snowy. 2009-2010 was a much weaker modoki compared to the 2023-2024 full basin event and what 2026-2027 is projected to be. Plus it occurred back in a much colder climate prior to the baseline temperature jumps in 2015-2016 and 2023-2024. This is why places from DC to Philly haven’t experienced anything close to those snowfall totals since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago rain coming in a little sooner then expected this morning.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 58 / 48 clouds and scattered showers. The first of what will be 4 or 5 of the next 7 days cooler/ cloudy and some lighter rain . showers today with some nicer or partial niver days mixed in Sunday - Tuesday as trough and sort of a cut off ULL move through this week. By next weekend we should moderate towards and above normal with next show at some more persistent warmth >80 5/17 - 5/24 and beyond. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Records: Highs: EWR: 93 (2000) NYC: 94 (1979) LGA: 92 (2000) JFK: 86 (2000) Lows: EWR: 33 (1947) NYC: 34 (2020) LGA: 36 (2020) JFK: 34 (2020) Historical: 1894: Portland, OR had its latest freeze when the temperature fell to 32°. This is the only May freeze in Portland's history. 1918: An F4 tornado moved across Floyd, Chickasaw, and Winneshiek Counties in northeast Iowa from two miles north of Pearl Rock to Calmar. Two people died just east of Calmar, when the tornado was a mile wide. Losses in and near Calmar totaled $250,000. Overall, this tornado killed 7 people and injured 15 others. An F3 tornado initially touched down a mile south of Pachard, IA then moved east northeast into Chickasaw County, Iowa and dissipated three miles east of Pearl Rock. A woman was killed there when a dozen homes were damaged. As many as 30 people hid in a single cellar. Overall, it killed one person, injured 5 other, and caused $50,000 dollars in property damage. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1922: Yosemite Valley, CA received 7.5 inches of snow, their biggest May snowfall on record. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1923: TRACE OF SNOW FELL AT WBO AND BAL. 1927: A major tornado outbreak occurred from Texas to Michigan. There were 28 tornadoes rated F2 or greater. Nine separate tornadoes killed five or more people. A tornado touched down 5 miles east of Morrisonville, IL, then moved northeast to Decatur. In Christian County, the tornado killed one person and caused 67 injuries. The tornado widened in the Decatur area, did minor damage to over 1,000 homes, and injured 50 people. Popular Bluff, MO was devastated by an F4 tornado. 98 people were killed and 300 were injured. 31 business and residential blocks were destroyed in the city. Strong, AR was leveled by another F4 tornado with 24 people killed. St. Louis, MO reported a wind gust of 75 mph. Behind the storm, Chadron, NE reported two inches of snow. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1933: A tornado causing F4 damage moved through Monroe, Cumberland, and Russell Counties in Kentucky along a 60-mile path. The town of Tompkinsville, KY was the hardest hit with 18 people killed. Overall, 36 people lost their lives. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1959: An outbreak of tornadoes occurred in central and eastern Oklahoma with more than 10 tornadoes. The most significant tornado, an F4, touched down near Harden City in Pontotoc County, and produced a path of devastation before lifting north of Stonewall. Seven people were killed and another 12 injured by the twister. Many head of cattle were killed and 20 oil derricks north of Harden City were destroyed. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1966 - Record snows fell in the northeastern Ohio and western Pennsylvania, including 3.1 inches at Pittsburgh PA and 5.4 inches at Youngstown OH. Snow also extended across parts of New York State, with eight inches reported in the southern Adirondacks. (The Weather Channel) 1977 - A late season snowstorm hit parts of Pennsylvania, New York State, and southern and central New England. Heavier snowfall totals included 27 inches at Slide Mountain NY and 20 inches at Norwalk CT. At Boston it was the first May snow in 107 years of records. The heavy wet snow caused extensive damage to trees and power lines. The homes of half a million persons were without power following the storm. (9th-10th) (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel) 1979: A heat wave occurred across the east coast: Notable afternoon highs included 95° at Boston, MA and 94° at New York City. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1985 - Lightning struck some trees about 150 yards away from a home in Alabama, and followed the driveway to the home. The charge went through the house and burned all the electrical outlets, ruined appliances, and blasted a hole in the concrete floor of the basement. (The Weather Channel) 1987 - Unseasonably warm weather spread from the Pacific Northwest to the Upper Mississippi Valley. Fifteen cities reported record high temperatures for the date. It was the fourth day of record warmth for Eugene OR and Salem OR. (The National Weather Summary) 1988 - A massive cyclone in the central U.S. produced severe thunderstorms from eastern Texas to the Upper Ohio Valley. A strong (F-3) tornado ripped through Middleboro KY causing more than 22 million dollars damage. Thunderstorms in east central Texas produced hail three and a half inches in diameter at Groesbeck, and near Fairfield. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1989 - Thunderstorms developing ahead of a cold front in the south central U.S. produced golf ball size hail and wind gusts to 62 mph at Mira LA, and during the morning hours drenched Stuttgart AR with five inches of rain. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1990 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather in the central U.S. during the evening hours, mainly from southeastern Missouri to southwestern Indiana. Severe thunderstorms spawned four tornadoes, including two strong (F-2) tornadoes in southern Illinois. Strong thunderstorm winds gusted to 85 mph at Orient IL, and to 100 mph at West Salem. Thunderstorms drenched northeastern Illinois with up to 4.50 inches of rain. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1995: A 7-year-old girl was killed when a lightning bolt directly struck her as she played softball in a park at Lighthouse Point in Broward County, Florida. The thunderstorm was about 5 miles northwest of the park when the lightning struck in the midst of 10 children and coaches. The park is surrounded by trees. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 2009-2010 was a much weaker modoki compared to the 2023-2024 full basin event and what 2026-2027 is projected to be. Plus it occurred back in a much colder climate prior to the baseline temperature jumps in 2015-2016 and 2023-2024. This is why places from DC to Philly haven’t experienced anything close to those snowfall totals since. I expect another baseline temperature jump this year. The amount of heat release in the pacific is going to be astronomical. The cpac hurricane and Epac typhoon seasons should be historic. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 17 hours ago, NEG NAO said: That mirrors the trends of recent spring, summers, and falls. Very wet well north and west, fizzling out to broken up lines and sprinkles as they move north and east past the area with little reaching the coast. https://www.drought.gov/topics/soil-moisture 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Claus Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 65 but a warm and muggy 65. breaks of sun steaming it up a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Where's all the rain? Looks like another bust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted 54 minutes ago Share Posted 54 minutes ago Just had a Facebook video reminder for May 9th,2020 and the snow flakes we got in little ferry. Was also amazed at how far behind all the tree growth was compared to this spring. Ohhh and it's raining in Bradley Beach. Cold as hell too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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