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powderfreak
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Found this guy just resting in the sun this morning…

wxeyeNH
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I believe this is the morning of May 27 2013.  We had 3 hours of thundersnow and I measured 3.1" at my house at 1100 feet.  The top of my hill had 4".   This is the latest snow I have ever seen here. 

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15 hours ago, powderfreak said:

Yeah good call, it was downwind of the storm.  I figured the dry low levels to start must’ve been eating up the liquid drops while the hail could make it to the surface.

Still, not something I can remember seeing before.  Just scattered hail stones falling as the leading edge… usually hail only comes in the core around these parts. 

Hail falling w/o any rain is quite rare in New England, and the East Coast for that matter, owning to the more moist climate and lack of an EML the vast majority of the time.

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On 5/27/2026 at 12:36 PM, Ginx snewx said:

 Wed next week is a modeled soaking 

 

On 5/28/2026 at 5:23 PM, Damage In Tolland said:
On 5/28/2026 at 5:37 PM, Damage In Tolland said:

CT starts Wednesday 

 

On 5/28/2026 at 5:40 PM, CoastalWx said:

Kevin seems way too optimistic about everything.

 

On 5/28/2026 at 5:43 PM, HoarfrostHubb said:

I hope so.  Might not even hit 70F here Weds.  

 

On 5/28/2026 at 5:45 PM, ineedsnow said:

GFS is 50's

 

On 5/28/2026 at 5:46 PM, ineedsnow said:

Euro also 50's wednesday

He knew 

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1 hour ago, ineedsnow said:

Nothing is that hot Thursday or Friday but we'll see.. also Euro.and GFS are 70s Wednesday for most

They had 50’s. The point is you take the model output and change it based on what should happen. Like when they had 50’s last week.. you knew that was wrong looking at the pattern and ensembles and could see big warmth was coming . It’s not just taking an op run temps and thinking that’s what the outcome will be . Or for one poster who uses an app for his forecasts and thinks it’s correct 

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3 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

They had 50’s. The point is you take the model output and change it based on what should happen. Like when they had 50’s last week.. you knew that was wrong looking at the pattern and ensembles and could see big warmth was coming . It’s not just taking an op run temps and thinking that’s what the outcome will be . Or for one poster who uses an app for his forecasts and thinks it’s correct 

there's no big warmth coming :lol: if 2 days of 80s is big warmth in June then I don't know what to tell you.. 

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On 5/31/2026 at 12:02 AM, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Bob was a yawner for most.

Maybe we got more than most - gusts to 60, scattered tree damage (some falling on SE winds, some on back side NW winds), and 6.41", greatest calendar day I've experienced.  It looms bigger because the following 43 years have provided only dreck for TCs.

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16 hours ago, tamarack said:

Maybe we got more than most - gusts to 60, scattered tree damage (some falling on SE winds, some on back side NW winds), and 6.41", greatest calendar day I've experienced.  It looms bigger because the following 43 years have provided only dreck for TCs.

Bob tracking farther E made all the difference,  If you were in SE MA and CC, it was the BIG BLOW.  You can't expect too much when an accelerating HU passes E of you location at this latitude if you are looking for wind.  R++ OTOH? 

However sometimes wild turkey surprise occurs.  Edna in Sep 1954 BOS G88KT, it highest gust on record (beat G87KT from Carol 10 days earlier), and it was out of the NW as Edna passed over CC.  Edna was going ET rather quickly and I'd bet good $$ it was a sting jet over SNE.  If you look at HU Fiona's epic transition S of NS in Sep 2022, that's what likely happened to Edna.

Bob's landfall at BID was 90 kt, which is considerably above Gloria's (75 kt) and Belle's (65 kt) landfalls -- the strongest since Donna in 1960, so don't dis Bob! B)

NWS BOX told me not long after Bob, they had a number of reports of "Scott spinners" on CC, but due to the extent of the straight-line wind damage and resources, they could not investigate those reports.  This was 2 years before the WSR-88D was installed, which now makes it much easier to pin down spinner reports and check specific areas, never mind cameras everywhere.  So the next HU that makes landfall in SNE, we'll likely see a number of spinners.
 

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Oh, and WxWiz will like this, there were likely several spinners in SE MA and RI for Gloria, in addition to the one confirmed in Billerica MA.  Look at the PNS from WSO PVD issued 3 days after Gloria (the bulletin is cut/pasted as is - typos are real). 

TTAA00 KPVD 301506
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BOSTON MA
1100 AM EDT MON SEP 30 1985

THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL REPORTS OF TORNADOS ASSOCIATED WITH HURRICANE
GLORIA IN THE AREA ON FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 27.

1. LOCAL POLICE IN SEEKONK MA REPORTED A TORNADO HAVING OCCURRED AT PINE
   STREET ON THE REHOBOTH-SEEKONK MA LINE AT APPROXIMATELY 230 PM EDT.

2. A CHARLES CINTOLO IN GLOUCESTER RI REPORTED A TORNADO IN THAT AREA.

3. REPORTER FROM THE PROVIDENCE JOURNAL STATED THAT SHE RECEIVED TWO
   REPORTS OF TORNADOS:
   A. NEAR THE BURLINGAME STATE FOREST IN CHARLESTOWN RI.
   B. NEAR A GOLF COURSE IN W. KINGSTOWN RI.

OUTSIDE THE AREA TWEKSBURY MA REPORTED A TORNADO WITNESSED BY STATE
POLICE.

SUMMARIZING: IT IS SAFE TO SAY THAT ALONG WITH HURRICANCE GLORIA, THERE
WERE TORNADOS IN THE AREA. FORTUNATELY THEY DID NOT ADD SIGNIFICANTLY
TO THE DAMAGE ALREADY DONE BY GLORIA. THERE WERE NO LIVES LOST:
NO BUILDINGS BLOWN APART, ETC TO WARRANT NOT PERSONALLY INVESTIGATING
THESE REPORTS.

THEY WILL BE RECORDED AS HAVING OCCURED IN OUR LOCAL STORM REPORTS
AND STATION CLIMATOLOGICAL HISTORY BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY WILL SERVE AS
A REMINDER IN FUTURE HURRICANE EVENTS THAT TORNADOS CAN OCCUR WITH
HURICANES.

INCIDENTALLY) THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAD A TORNADO WATCH IN EFFECT
FOR SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND FROM 10AM EDT TO 6PM EDT FRIDAY SEPT. 1985.

RAMELLA

 

So why did they not record these are tornadoes (they are not in NCEI Storm Data - even though it says they were recorded).  Probably the same reason as Bob, magnitude of HU event/wind damage overshadowed individual spinner reports.  Of course, this would not happen today.  Once the NWS MAR occurred in the mid-late 90s, wx verification and outreach greatly expanded, and so did what got logged in Storm Data. 

As added bonus, here is the LSR from WSO BDR for the July 10, 1989 spinner event.  WxWiz is :blink:.  I recall this report vividly.  What caught my eye the most was 4.4" of rain in 1/2 hr!  I believe it b/c it was a MONSTA HP beast.  The sky darkened black as night for this storm. 

WOUS00 KBDR 111200
STORM REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BRIDGEPORT CT
740 AM EDT TUE JUL 11 1989

LOCAL STORM REPORT FOR MONDAY JUL 10 1989

TIME            COUNTY            TOWN           EVENT
519 PM EDT    NEW HAVEN          OXFORD        11/2 INCH HAIL
524 PM EDT    NEW HAVEN      NEAR WOODBURY     1 INCH HAIL
542 PM EDT    NEW HAVEN      NEW HAVEN    GUST 70 KNOTS BY COAST GUARD
605 PM EDT    NEW HAVEN      OXFORD            4.4 INCHES RAIN 1/2 HR.
605 PM EDT    NEW HAVEN      HAMDEN            POSSIBLE TORNADO EXTENSIVE
    DAMAGE TO HOUSES BUSINESSES NUMEROUS INJURES.
541 PM EDT    MIDDLESEX      MIDDLETOWN     TREES DOWN SMALL HOUSE DAMAGE
605 PM EDT    NEW HAVEN      NEW HAVEN      EXTENSIVE DAMAGE TO MANY
    HOUSES.  THOUSANDS OF TREES DOWN.  COUNTY 100,000 WITHOUT POWER.
    MANY INJURIES.  POSSIBLE TORNADOS BY NEW HAVEN POLICE.

END/FOOSE
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51 minutes ago, vortex95 said:

Bob tracking farther E made all the difference,  If you were in SE MA and CC, it was the BIG BLOW.  You can't expect too much when an accelerating HU passes E of you location at this latitude if you are looking for wind.  R++ OTOH? 

However sometimes wild turkey surprise occurs.  Edna in Sep 1954 BOS G88KT, it highest gust on record (beat G87KT from Carol 10 days earlier), and it was out of the NW as Edna passed over CC.  Edna was going ET rather quickly and I'd bet good $$ it was a sting jet over SNE.  If you look at HU Fiona's epic transition S of NS in Sep 2022, that's what likely happened to Edna.

Bob's landfall at BID was 90 kt, which is considerably above Gloria's (75 kt) and Belle's (65 kt) landfalls -- the strongest since Donna in 1960, so don't dis Bob! B)

NWS BOX told me not long after Bob, they had a number of reports of "Scott spinners" on CC, but due to the extent of the straight-line wind damage and resources, they could not investigate those reports.  This was 2 years before the WSR-88D was installed, which now makes it much easier to pin down spinner reports and check specific areas, never mind cameras everywhere.  So the next HU that makes landfall in SNE, we'll likely see a number of spinners.
 

Those 3 1954 storms all had names of my relatives - cousin, aunt, great aunt chronological.
Carol was nothing I can remember, probably some rain at our NNJ home.
Edna was mostly dry.  We flew kites in its breezes.
Hazel had wind in NNJ comparable to Bob in central Maine, dumping some trees and plastering our home with pieces of tough October leaves.

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