brooklynwx99 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Rjay said: I'm usually not one to do this but just an awful performance by the Euro. lol 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago it has never been more happening in the history of happenings 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Biggest difference is the speed NAM-GFS vs RGEM/Euro etc otherwise very similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Rjay said: Agree. I always hated obs threads. But if a legend wanted to create one I would never say no. Way too much respect for the man. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, brooklynwx99 said: lol So bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jt17 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago So bad Two more runs and it will catch up the GFS while the first snowflakes already falling lol . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, SACRUS said: 2/22 00z Summary Total QPF NYC / Total 10:1 Snow NYC c SREF mean: 2.2 / 21 NAM: 2.8 / 27.5 NAM 3k: 2.0 / 19.5 ICON: 1.4 / 13.5 RGEM: 1.3 / 13.3 GFS: 1.6 / 16.7 GFS AI AIGFS: 1.4 / 13.6 GGEM: 1.5 / 13.8 GEFS: 1.7 / 17 UKMET: 1.2 / 11 EURO AI AIFS: 1.3 / 12.7 EURO: 1.4 / 12.8 2/22 00z Summary Total QPF NYC / Total 10:1 Snow NYC SREF mean: 2.2 / 21 NAM: 2.8 / 27.5 NAM 3k: 2.0 / 19.5 ICON: 1.4 / 13.5 RGEM: 1.3 / 13.3 GFS: 1.6 / 16.7 GFS AI AIGFS: 1.4 / 13.6 GGEM: 1.5 / 13.8 GEFS: 1.7 / 17 UKMET: 1.2 / 11 EURO AI AIFS: 1.3 / 12.7 EURO: 1.4 / 12.8 Total QPF (NYC): 1.65 inches Total Snow (10:1, NYC): 16.0 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Jt17 said: Two more runs and it will catch up the GFS while the first snowflakes already falling lol . It did this in 2016. Also none of the OPs ended up catching up completely to hi res guidance. Also just like in 2016 it seems like have another battle between the hi res American guidance and the global OPs in regards to precipitation amounts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 11 minutes left to get your guesses in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Lock it up, lock it in, let it begin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGeek2025 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago i'm in and i feel conservative now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGeek2025 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago LfG!!!! wow this is exciting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Rjay said: Agree. I always hated obs threads. Mine did pretty well this winter so far! (I'm not doing it lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Rjay said: So bad Just can never remember so much flip flopping. It has had fails but this last week if runs was just horrendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago 39 minutes ago, jm1220 said: Mine did pretty well this winter so far! (I'm not doing it lol) You're one of the posters I respect the most so you have free rein to do whatever you want in regards to starting threads. You and Rob should have green tags. Bx and I are grateful for both of you. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, MANDA said: Just can never remember so much flip flopping. It has had fails but this last week if runs was just horrendous. You look at the last 4 days of Euro runs and then compare it with this, it's actually crazy. Last 16 runs of the gfs 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Rjay said: You're one of the posters I respect the most so you have free range to do whatever you want in regards to starting threads. You and Rob should have green tags. Bx and I are grateful for both of you. I have someone else in mind. @Allsnow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, jm1220 said: I have someone else in mind. @Allsnow We love him too lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago He's getting possibly the blizzard of the decade for our sub named after him just as Randy did in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Did anyone post the 3z RAP? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago SPC is forecasting a thundersnow risk! ...Discussion... Strong short-wave trough is digging southeast toward the OH Valley late this evening. This feature will phase with the southern stream and induce a surface low off the NC coast early in the period. Intense deepening is expected with this offshore cyclone which will lift north-northeast during the overnight hours. Isolated thunderstorms may develop along the trailing cold front as it surges south across the FL Peninsula during the day, but poor lapse rates and weak buoyancy suggest the risk for robust convection is not particularly high. Intense low-level warm advection will aid the potential for lightning discharge in midlevel convection along the middle Atlantic coast and southern New England. Forecast soundings suggest the majority of this activity will be within heavier snow bands along the northwest-north side of the cyclone. Across the Pacific northwest, significant midlevel cooling and steepening lapse rates are expected along the WA coast by early afternoon. Weak SBCAPE is expected to develop across this region and some risk for lightning is possible with convection that develops within this warm-advection regime. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, MJO812 said: Gfs has a nice band near coastal NJ not too far south from NYC. Sometimes bands end up elsewhere than modeled. IMO its impossible for any model to pinpoint exactly where any extreme amounts will fall caused by banding - have seen that happen in many storms over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Nibor said: Did anyone post the 3z RAP? Snows itself out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Snow Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, Nibor said: Did anyone post the 3z RAP? That low does NOT want to move wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago My question now is what is everyone's opinion on what could go wrong with this storm causing much lower snowfall amounts then modeled in certain areas ? One area I think that is overdone is the NAMS 42 inches on the Ocean County coast . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Snow Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, NEG NAO said: My question now is what is everyone's opinion on what could go wrong with this storm causing much lower snowfall amounts then modeled in certain areas ? Upton hedging with 3-23" lol Mt. Holly has a crazier 1-25" for Philadelphia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFox Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Snowfall rates can jackpot with thunder snow. Though I have seen it go either way. Either heavy snow, or a change to sleet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Sref is very consistent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 12 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: IMO its impossible for any model to pinpoint exactly where any extreme amounts will fall caused by banding - have seen that happen in many storms over the years. They usually end up further NW than forecast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFox Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: My question now is what is everyone's opinion on what could go wrong with this storm causing much lower snowfall amounts then modeled in certain areas ? One area I think that is overdone is the NAMS 42 inches on the Ocean County coast . Dry slot, boundary layer warms to mixed precip, storm track much further east of benchmark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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