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January 24-26: Miracle or Mirage Thread 2


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3 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said:

As for when the NS is sampled I don’t know but @MillvilleWx probably does. As for needing it sampled to know what happens that’s true. We need the whole picture not one half.

 

4 minutes ago, nw baltimore wx said:

So, I know the Euro is getting data from the Pacific, but based on what I read in the LWX AFD earlier, I still feel like models won't have this worked out until the northern stream is sampled better.  I think I read that that won't happen until later tomorrow.  

Is there anyone still awake that's in the know?

The N/S will be sampled better by tomorrow as it exits the Arctic regions and comes into more favorable RAOB domain. That said, models are probably still on the right track right now, but a small shift is still plausible once that is alignment with better land data captures. As for the oceanic recons, reading into some responses from the flight members and they said it’s not a magic pill right now for immediate change, but more data collection over the coming 24 hrs will add more to the general picture in the future ingests, so it’s a steady assistance prior to the S/W making “landfall” over Baja. 

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1 minute ago, MillvilleWx said:

The N/S will be sampled better by tomorrow as it exits the Arctic regions and comes into more favorable RAOB domain. That said, models are probably still on the right track right now, but a small shift is still plausible once that is alignment with better land data captures. As for the oceanic recons, reading into some responses from the flight members and they said it’s not a magic pill right now for immediate change, but more data collection over the coming 24 hrs will add more to the general picture in the future ingests, so it’s a steady assistance prior to the S/W making “landfall” over Baja. 

Good stuff!  Thanks.

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Just now, nw baltimore wx said:

I could be very wrong, but I don’t think that’s how the AI models work.

I would think the AI models get all the same data the physics models do, except instead of feeding a physics engine they feed an LLM. 

If that map is right then it seems that the AI has definitely gone with the WV primary idea, which is not great news. 

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