Roger Smith Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago (cross-posted from general Dec thread) ... to give an idea of climate extremes at this point, current temps in lower MI are 5-10 F so this is a very chilly air mass coming in behind the snow ... I imagine the urban heat island will prevent the 1874 records from being surpassed but 24/12 would not surprise me as temp Sunday afternoon low Monday. It may still be warmer at 0100h Sunday to bump up that day's max, then Monday could see later warm advection spoiling another very low max. But these low max values probably indicate the coldest it has been in the daytime hours. As you'll know, 1917 wasn't done by any means with this cold and snowy outbreak, all-time records fell 29th to 31st and into early Jan 1918 too. The same can be said for 1933. And 1874 was followed by possibly the harshest winter of all, lots of record cold in Feb-Mar 1875. Lowest maxima for Sunday and Monday for NYC DEC 14 _ 21 (1902), 22 (1888), 23 (2010), 24 (2005), 26 (1903,1904), 27 (1898), 28 (1933) DEC 15 _ 20 (1874,1914), 22 (1917), 25 (1871), 26 (1903), 27 (1919, 1962, 2010), 28 (1904, 1905, 1916, 2017) Lowest minima for Monday DEC 15 ___ 8 (1874), 9 (1883), 10 (1914, 1917), 13 (1900, 1902), 14 (1910, 1943, 1962), 15 (1904, 1921) __ 18 (1980, 2005) coldest recent years Heaviest snowfalls 13-14 (2d totals include all > 1.0") (daily records 8.0" 13th 1917 and 5.8" 14th 2003) 1917 _9.5" (8.0+1.5) _2d record for Dec 13-14 1902 _6.1" (6.0" 13th, 0.1" 14th) 1915 _6.0" (5.0+1.0) 2003 _5.8" (all on 14th) 1889 _5.5" (all on 14th) 2013 _5.0" (all on 14th) 1942 _4.1" (all on 13th) 1922, 1945 _3.2" (all on 14th) 1904 _2.8" (on 13th, followed 4.2" on 12th for 7.0" total) 1951 _2.5" (all on 14th) +0.8" 15th = 3.3" total 1933 _2.2" (2.0+0.2) 1995 _1.7" (all on 14th) 1892 _1.5" (all on 13th), 1893 and 1907 _1.5" (all on 14th) 1981 _1.4" (all on 14th) 1923, 2017 _1.2" (all on 14th) _ 2017 added 1.2" 15th for 2.4" total. 1909 _1.0" (all on 13th) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJW014 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Flurries+ here along Barnegat Bay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jims Videos Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Flurries have begun here. Very light. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestBabylonWeather Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Stated as snow. No mix. Temp down to 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexcountyobs Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 5" of solid clear ice on the lake under a little snow. A couple guys ice fishing today out there. Currently: light snow. 28.2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago hmmm...sky looks like its clearing here....guess the flurries were just a sideshow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Snow started 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago I don't forsee mix actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 34 and overcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 16 minutes ago, sussexcountyobs said: 5" of solid clear ice on the lake under a little snow. A couple guys ice fishing today out there. Currently: light snow. 28.2 Some of the ponds around here are frozen as well. Not sure of depth but they are iced over and snow covered. Wouldn't want to organize an ice hockey game just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 34 and light snow. Light Coating on car tops and grass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 29 here and just the lightest of flurries. My forecast for around my area is 1-3". Not expecting to reach 4" around here unless this over performs this far NW. We'll see how it goes. Best to everyone....enjoy! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 16 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: hmmm...sky looks like its clearing here....guess the flurries were just a sideshow. Actually there was a break in the radar with main batch about 40 miles still to the west? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago The frozen ground definitely made a big difference. Down to 33 here and the patio and some of the sidewalks are snow covered. So we won’t lose any qpf later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexcountyobs Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 11 minutes ago, MANDA said: Some of the ponds around here are frozen as well. Not sure of depth but they are iced over and snow covered. Wouldn't want to organize an ice hockey game just yet. Yes. I am a sissy when it comes to going out on ice. I like 6". Preferably 8" of clear non slush ice. The young bucks were out there today. And drilled over the whole lake. 5" of solid clear ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 29 w/ moderate snow solid coating on all surfaces expecting an over performer here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexcountyobs Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, snywx said: 29 w/ moderate snow solid coating on all surfaces expecting an over performer here I was just thinking the same thing as per overperforming. Snow accumating quick right now. Temp holding steady at 28.2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: 34 and overcast 4 inches for our area sound good? That's what I'm going with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyHolikWillFindYou Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Smells like snow out there. Haven't seen a single flake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 44 minutes ago, sussexcountyobs said: 5" of solid clear ice on the lake under a little snow. A couple guys ice fishing today out there. Currently: light snow. 28.2 Great to hear. I have no idea what effect next week's' warming trend will have on that thickness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 30.0 and light snow. Still no advisory for Orange County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: 4 inches for our area sound good? That's what I'm going with. I'd be thrilled with that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metasequoia Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Judging by the current temps and dewpoints around NYC, temps should drop to around freezing fairly quickly once the steady snow moves in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: 30.0 and light snow. Still no advisory for Orange County. 28 w/ lgt - mod snow 0.5” already here its pure fluff and accumulating easily 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexcountyobs Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Dark Star said: Great to hear. I have no idea what effect next week's' warming trend will have on that thickness? Lake ice is a very tricky thing. A couple days of slight warming and below freezing at night is no big deal when u get snow a several inches of snow cover on lake. Its like an insulating blanket. It will melt from below the ice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 26 minutes ago, snywx said: 29 w/ moderate snow solid coating on all surfaces expecting an over performer here 4 minutes ago, snywx said: 28 w/ lgt - mod snow 0.5” already here its pure fluff and accumulating easily Are these observations or entries for the common phrase book? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Nam is 3-5 for nyc with more than 6 for SNJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Just now, MJO812 said: Nam is 3-5 for nyc with more than 6 for SNJ Seems slower. Almost nothing til 1am but keeps going later now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatamy Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Steady light snow. 32/27. Visibility 3/4 mile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wxoutlooksblog Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 39 minutes ago, Dark Star said: Actually there was a break in the radar with main batch about 40 miles still to the west? I am referring to this as a snow hole. It's not a good way to start a storm but it should gradually fill in between 10-midnight. WX/PT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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