July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability

[LibertyBell]

21 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Certainly getting all that much rain at once is less preferable for soil concerns than 1 to 2" a week. If imagine much of it ran off 

Yeah around 1 inch of rain per week (preferably at night) is probably ideal.

[LibertyBell]

47 minutes ago, winterwarlock said:

Imby didnt hit 90 until 6/19. Since 6/19 I have a total of 20 90 degree days. That is 20 out of last 36 days of 90 plus. Today will add to that list. I have had 4 heatwaves...2 3 days variety and 2 of 4 days. Hottest day was 6/24 at 100. Since 6/19 27 of 36 days have recorded a max dew of 75 plus with the peak of 83 on 6/23 and 7/8. Hottest July day was 94 on July 8

 

Total July rainfall is 6.01 inches...more than half of which fell on 7/14

and you'll add three more with the heatwave next week, Tuesday might be hotter than today (with no rain and maybe not even any clouds).

[SACRUS]

2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

and you'll add three more with the heatwave next week, Tuesday might be hotter than today (with no rain and maybe not even any clouds).

Beyond the 30th we are likely 90-less till Aug 7/8th.  At this point - we'll see if seasonal trend is for more correction to warmer in the east.

[SACRUS]

Now none of the sites are updating the 1051 - 11 AM readings.   

 

90 / 75 here

[Stormlover74]

3 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

Now none of the sites are updating the 1051 - 11 AM readings.   

 

90 / 75 here

Mmu is 88 so ewr must be at least 92

[BobbyHolikWillFindYou]

92.3 with a 100.6 real feel showing on my Logia screen. Seems accurate based off my 5 minute plant watering adventure. Yeesh.

[winterwx21]

Already 92 here. Dewpoint is 74. I think we'll hit 98 or 99 for the high temp here. 

[Roger Smith]

Interesting about the extended Newark data, can somebody have a look and give an idea of lowest temperatures in Jan 1857 and Feb 1855? Also hottest of 1854 and 1868? I think these could prove to be the extremes to be added to NYC span.

[winterwarlock]

90/81/108

[LibertyBell]

47 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

Beyond the 30th we are likely 90-less till Aug 7/8th.  At this point - we'll see if seasonal trend is for more correction to warmer in the east.

it's already up to 92 here at noon

[LibertyBell]

28 minutes ago, winterwx21 said:

Already 92 here. Dewpoint is 74. I think we'll hit 98 or 99 for the high temp here. 

92 here now too

[jm1220]

95/75. Atrocious. 

[Sundog]

3 hours ago, SACRUS said:

 

Why does it always feel like fronts move through the northern tier in the morning and get to the coast in the late afternoon or evening? At least during the summer months. 

 

[Sundog]

3 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

95/75. Atrocious. 

I have 96/76 feels like 110F

Lovely 

[Picard]

2 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

I was told that it was an I.T. issue, but no further details were provided.

I don't quite understand this either.  Take an example of Andover-Aeroflex Airport, which is just a quick skip away from me.
They only report at :54 past the hour.  Sussex airport is :53 past the hour and sometimes reports the whole degree and sometimes to the tenths of a degree without rhyme or reason.
Morristown Airport seems all over the place with it's timestaps.  Furthermore, they seem to round off to the nearest whole °C which is not precise.
Most odd of all, Andover-Aeroflex has also recorded 4 inches of rain in the past 3 days according to their stream, which is simply false.

Seems like these NWS data feeds are elementary at best, which is inexcusable in 2025.  If I were running some kind of study or analysis, this data would be unreliable in a lot of cases.  It seems like something C students would turn in as part of a middle school science project.

[MJO812]

Its disgusting outside . Feel bad for my wife since she is pregnant. 

93 here

[psv88]

93/77 at home. 
 

78 and breezy here in Newport, RI. 

[Stormlover74]

20 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Its disgusting outside . Feel bad for my wife since she is pregnant. 

93 here

Congrats!

[steve392]

Sitting in shade with breeze makes it somewhat tolerable outside...somewhat

[LibertyBell]

23 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Its disgusting outside . Feel bad for my wife since she is pregnant. 

93 here

I hope she's in a/c

It made it to 93 here but it's leveled off since.

[LibertyBell]

27 minutes ago, Picard said:

I don't quite understand this either.  Take an example of Andover-Aeroflex Airport, which is just a quick skip away from me.
They only report at :54 past the hour.  Sussex airport is :53 past the hour and sometimes reports the whole degree and sometimes to the tenths of a degree without rhyme or reason.
Morristown Airport seems all over the place with it's timestaps.  Furthermore, they seem to round off to the nearest whole °C which is not precise.
Most odd of all, Andover-Aeroflex has also recorded 4 inches of rain in the past 3 days according to their stream, which is simply false.

Seems like these NWS data feeds are elementary at best, which is inexcusable in 2025.  If I were running some kind of study or analysis, this data would be unreliable in a lot of cases.  It seems like something C students would turn in as part of a middle school science project.

they should just let wunderground run all their stuff

[donsutherland1]

26 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Its disgusting outside . Feel bad for my wife since she is pregnant. 

93 here

Congratulations on your wife’s pregnancy.

[LibertyBell]

37 minutes ago, Sundog said:

I have 96/76 feels like 110F

Lovely 

if it doesn't make it to 100 the pain isn't worth it.

[lee59]

92/69 here

[SACRUS]

 

 

1PM Round up -- only stations reporting, comical.

EWR: 97
TEB: 97
New Brnswck: 93

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, SACRUS said:

 

 

1PM Round up -- only stations reporting, comical.

EWR: 97
TEB: 97
New Brnswck: 93

lol you should have seen the NOAA assistant director during his interview trying to make it seem the budget cuts won't have an effect

[bluewave]

1 hour ago, Roger Smith said:

Interesting about the extended Newark data, can somebody have a look and give an idea of lowest temperatures in Jan 1857 and Feb 1855? Also hottest of 1854 and 1868? I think these could prove to be the extremes to be added to NYC span.

It’s interesting that none of those great Arctic outbreaks of the 1800s could rival February 1934 at Newark. Was the only -14° low temperature and the coldest month at 18.6° since 1843. The only time Newark may have been colder was back in January 1780 when there was a -16° report in NYC.

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Dec through Feb Lowest Temperatures 
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

1	1933-1934	-14	0
2	1917-1918	-13	2
-	1865-1866	-13	11
-	1858-1859	-13	11
3	1872-1873	-12	9
-	1856-1857	-12	7
4	1903-1904	-10	0
5	1898-1899	-9	5
6	1984-1985	-8	0
-	1860-1861	-8	5
-	1854-1855	-8	8
-	1851-1852	-8	5
7	1981-1982	-7	0
-	1942-1943	-7	0
-	1880-1881	-7	9
-	1855-1856	-7	6
8	1911-1912	-6	1
9	1913-1914	-5	1
-	1895-1896	-5	4

 

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Coldest Month of Jan
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

1	1918	20.1	3
2	1977	20.9	0
3	1857	21.1	5
4	1893	21.5	3
5	1865	21.7	8
6	1904	21.8	0
7	1856	22.3	2
8	1912	22.9	0
-	1867	22.9	0
9	1920	23.0	11
10	1884	23.5	11
-	1875	23.5	4

 

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Coldest Month of Feb
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

1	1934	18.6	0
2	1868	21.3	4
3	2015	22.6	0
4	1875	22.7	2
5	1907	22.8	4
6	1905	23.2	0
7	1979	23.5	0
8	1901	23.9	0
-	1885	23.9	7
9	1904	24.0	0
10	1936	24.4	0

 

 

 

[SACRUS]

1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

lol you should have seen the NOAA assistant director during his interview trying to make it seem the budget cuts won't have an effect

There were issues last year, especially at JFK and BLM.  Today is a whole other level.

[SACRUS]

1 minute ago, bluewave said:

It’s interesting that none of those great Arctic outbreaks of the 1800s could rival February 1934. It’s the only -14° low temperature there. It’s also the coldest month at 18.6° since 1843. The only time Newark may have been colder was back in January 1780 when there was a -16° report around NY Harbor.

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Dec through Feb Lowest Temperatures 
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

1	1933-1934	-14	0
2	1917-1918	-13	2
-	1865-1866	-13	11
-	1858-1859	-13	11
3	1872-1873	-12	9
-	1856-1857	-12	7
4	1903-1904	-10	0
5	1898-1899	-9	5
6	1984-1985	-8	0
-	1860-1861	-8	5
-	1854-1855	-8	8
-	1851-1852	-8	5
7	1981-1982	-7	0
-	1942-1943	-7	0
-	1880-1881	-7	9
-	1855-1856	-7	6
8	1911-1912	-6	1
9	1913-1914	-5	1
-	1895-1896	-5	4

 

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Coldest Month of Jan
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

1	1918	20.1	3
2	1977	20.9	0
3	1857	21.1	5
4	1893	21.5	3
5	1865	21.7	8
6	1904	21.8	0
7	1856	22.3	2
8	1912	22.9	0
-	1867	22.9	0
9	1920	23.0	11
10	1884	23.5	11
-	1875	23.5	4

 

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Coldest Month of Feb
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

1	1934	18.6	0
2	1868	21.3	4
3	2015	22.6	0
4	1875	22.7	2
5	1907	22.8	4
6	1905	23.2	0
7	1979	23.5	0
8	1901	23.9	0
-	1885	23.9	7
9	1904	24.0	0
10	1936	24.4	0

Surpised 1976 didnt make that list.

[SACRUS]

7 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

 

1PM Round up -- only stations reporting, comical.

EWR: 97
TEB: 97
New Brnswck: 93

 

 

EWR: 97
TEB: 97
LGA: 95
New Brnswck: 93
ACY: 93
PHL: 92
NYC: 92
TTN: 92
BLM: // No data nearest is 92
JFK: 91
ISP: 89