June 2025 discussion-obs: Summerlike

[psv88]

Islip just gusted to 51

[SACRUS]

 

Highs

 

EWR: 93
BLM: 93
PHL: 93
ACY: 93
TTN: 91
New Brnswck: 91
TEB: 91
LGA: 90
NYC: 88
ISP: 86
JFK: 85

[SACRUS]

 

Winds here gusted to 56 MPH and dropped 0.49 of rain , still raining lightly now.  High 91

[SACRUS]

 

More storms moving into EPA - then to NWNJ

 

[LibertyBell]

31 minutes ago, guinness77 said:

I’m hoping it never happens, one of the biggest things I worry about on this island. Cat 3 or worse would be catastrophic for us. 

Yes, even a Cat 1 might be too much, do you remember when we had that high end tropical storm that moved to our west a few years ago? My house was shaking with 80 mph wind gusts.

[TWCCraig]

Probably gusted no more than 30mph here with 0.09" of rain so far. Fell apart pretty fast as it headed east

[LibertyBell]

9 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

Highs

 

EWR: 93
BLM: 93
PHL: 93
ACY: 93
TTN: 91
New Brnswck: 91
TEB: 91
LGA: 90
NYC: 88
ISP: 86
JFK: 85

Nice and toasty, it was 88 here at 12 noon.

[LibertyBell]

Just now, TWCCraig said:

Probably gusted no more than 30mph here with 0.09" of rain so far. Fell apart pretty fast as it headed east

wow it rained here for one hour 7-8 and pretty hard for about 30 minutes very windy and very dark

[LibertyBell]

46 minutes ago, Wannabehippie said:

Thankfully they are conscious, and alert. Taken to hospital as a precaution.

do you know if it was a direct strike or if it hit a tree first or the ground first?

 

[guinness77]

3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Yes, even a Cat 1 might be too much, do you remember when we had that high end tropical storm that moved to our west a few years ago? My house was shaking with 80 mph wind gusts.

Isaias. Yeah was pretty gusty. Had to drive from south shore to north shore about 4pm and saw plenty of damage. Power at Huntington LIRR was out.  

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, guinness77 said:

Isaias. Yeah was pretty gusty. Had to drive from south shore to north shore about 4pm and saw plenty of damage. Power at Huntington LIRR was out.  

lots of trees down and some very large ones too, I thought my windows were going to blow in that afternoon

[donsutherland1]

The operational ECMWF and GFS are now in good agreement that daily record temperatures will likely be challenged or broken during June 23-24 across the New York City region. June monthly records could be challenged, as well.

EFI for June 23:

EFI for June 24:

Select Data:

[FPizz]

.60" today

[jm1220]

49 minutes ago, TWCCraig said:

Probably gusted no more than 30mph here with 0.09" of rain so far. Fell apart pretty fast as it headed east

Marine layer plus the air is further stabilized from the storm earlier. 

[SACRUS]

 

Ended with around 0.52

[SACRUS]

 

Looks like dew points temps maxed out at 75/76 is the highest i see today.   Slowly dropping now into the upper 60s.

[lee59]

Was in D.C. area this afternoon, numerous trees down and some unfortunately on cars that were on the roadway. Meanwhile back home 88 for a high.

[winterwx21]

Only 0.17" here today. 

[JerseyWx]

Pretty underwhelming here, just some moderate rain at best.  I feel like the strongest severe storms pop up on days when there's less risk.  Today I think we were in enhanced.  It's not like we need the rain anyway.

Breeze kicking up now and can already notice a significant drop in humidity.

[WE GOT HIM]

13 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

who's the guy in the hot tub, Forky?

 

Yes

[Wxoutlooksblog]

Again 2 nights in a row. GFS significant backdoor cold front comes through on Wednesday. CMC, backdoor cold front remains to our north for the entire week. It's the difference between a 3-4 day heatwave starting Sunday and a 5-6 day heatwave starting Sunday. Whatever, upper 90s to lower 100s likely at least Monday & Tuesday. Notably, GFS has a second surge of 90+ degree heat later in the period for at least Saturday 6/28 & Sunday 6/29.

WX/PT

[mjr]

On 6/18/2025 at 11:34 AM, Sundog said:

Either we have siting standards or we don't.

Central Park's weather station, located at Belvedere Castle, has been recognized as a Centennial Observing Station by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO). This designation acknowledges the station's continuous, high-quality meteorological measurements for over a century. The Central Park station is one of only eleven such stations in the United States to receive this recognition. 

 

Among the recognition criteria is that Any known observing station relocation or change in the measurement technique have not significantly affected the climatological time-series data.

 

Among the siting standards is that A weather station is supposed to be in an open area, not underneath trees and overgrowth. The best site for the measurements is, therefore, over level ground, freely exposed to sunshine and wind and not shielded by, or close to, trees, buildings and other obstructions.

 

I would argue that the instrument relocation is a qualitative change that materially compromises the long term time series data and defeats the goal of accurate scientific comparison, sort of like the Roger Maris, Mark McGuire asterisk controversy in baseball. Regardless of whether one agrees with this view, it is irrefutable that the siting guidelines are being violated.

 

[mjr]

Apart from time series comparisons is the issue of comparing NYC weather and climate with other locations and regions and also describing NYC summer weather characteristics to the general public. In the interest of simplicity, summer weather is frequently measured by the number of days which exceed 90 degrees while other factors, such as high minimum temperatures, are basically ignored. Recently, a top meteorologist at a leading weather service provider was giving his summer forecast and it was based on the number of 90 degree days. If I remember correctly he used 16 days as average for NYC while the corresponding figures for other cities were 14 for Boston, 30 for Philly and 40 for DC. While it is certainly true that PHL and DCA have higher summer maxima, this gives the misimpression that overall summer conditions for NYC (usually interpreted as Manhattan) and Boston are largely indistinguishable. Of course you can blame the one dimensional criterion that he used but the thermometer siting is certainly a nontrivial factor. Just as an aside, when comparing NYC to other locations, an overwhelming number of observations are taken in airport or urban environments so maybe concrete is a more useful comparison.