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1 hour ago, wxeyeNH said:

42.8F  Light rain.

On May 25 2012  I recorded 3.1" of thundersnow within about a 2 hour period.  I believe the temperature was 33F during that event.  That was the latest snow I have recorded.

We will not repeat that tonight but at my elevation of 1100 feet it will be interesting to see if I can manage some mangled flakes.  Any guesses?  What do you think Brian?

Gun to head I’ll say yes. Even if it’s 35-36° paws. 
 

I bet you were colder than that in 2012 too because of your station siting. 

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16 minutes ago, dryslot said:

Could've used this pattern back in Jan-Feb with all these cutoff slow moving systems in April and May.

I don't believe the recent winter hemisphere's would physically allow that to happen.   This is happening now because the flow is slower ...everywhere.  The entire manifold of the hemisphere still has energetics, and because the flow foot is lower, this allows for curvatures at smaller radii

It's complex but we have to understand atmospheric motion in x, y and z coordinate system.  The z is the omega term ( upward vs downward vertical motion )...  x and y is the direction, w-e-n-s.   When there is only so much uvm velocity available to rotating fields... this limits the amount of mass that can move up for inward moving air.   Tornadoes, for example, rotate so fast because they have shit ton of vertical acceleration moving upwards - stretching the vortex in the vertical effectively speeds it up.  Think figure-skater pulling their arms in, and the spin faster.   Such that cyclonic motion has a relatively constant mass moving in the vertical.   When x - y gradient is large -->  faster flow of wind, but this exceeds the restoring mass moving upward; it can't flow in tighter curved space,  because the mass moving in can't rise any faster.  So instead of conserving the energy in the smaller scales, it ends up lengthening the long wave lengths with lots of jet velocity, and less small space curvatures  - note, I did not say, "no" smaller space curvatures.    We're dealing in offsets here...

In recent years the gradient between ~30 N and 60 N has been extreme. This has power very strong westerlies through the deep tropospheric means.  This has meant faster moving events.  More sheared events.  Event closed lows behavior more like "quasi" closed lows, because they move right along like rolling balls... These are just notable behaviors I'm listing...

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3 minutes ago, dendrite said:

Gun to head I’ll say yes. Even if it’s 35-36° paws. 
 

I bet you were colder than that in 2012 too because of your station siting. 

Interesting ... 2012 was one of if not the warmest total spring to summer transition years on record - least I thought it was...

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