January 2024

[LibertyBell]

Just now, bluewave said:

The temperature forecast for Friday looks like an early preview of the spring backdoor season.

this hopefully means we will be hitting 90 by April

[TJW014]

4 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

sunshine would be so much better

As long as I can see the sun, I don't care how cold it is. It could be 15 degrees out, I don't care. I can't stand these dark and drizzly days. I get migraines and days like today bring the perfect recipe for one. 

[uofmiami]

10 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

Feb  3 - 5 looks quite cold as trough swings through and down the northeast.  

Looks like cold shots surrounded by warmth. If we can time the storms with the cold, we’ll get some snow perhaps. I posted the tweet in Feb thread, as I didn’t see Walt had started one.

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, TJW014 said:

As long as I can see the sun, I don't care how cold it is. It could be 15 degrees out, I don't care. I can't stand these dark and drizzly days. I get migraines and days like today bring the perfect recipe for one. 

exactly! I took benadryl yesterday because my allergies hit hard so its effects haven't worn off yet and hopefully they last through this yucky period

 

[SACRUS]

14 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

wow, none of these storms dumped snow like that up here!

1987 - The second major storm in three days hit the Eastern Seaboard producing up to 15 inches of snow in Virginia, Maryland and Delaware. Up to 30 inches of snow covered the ground in Virginia following the two storms. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

Ill see what i can dig up for snowfall reports that winter.  The Hudson froze for lengthy periods a few times.

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

Ill see what i can dig up for snowfall reports that winter.  The Hudson froze for lengthy periods a few times.

I think that was the winter they had 50" of snow in Monmouth County and we received about 25" lol

One 6-7" snowstorm in January I think?

 

[weatherpruf]

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[MJO812]

[bluewave]

First time since the early 30s that NYC had two consecutive winters that averaged over 40° through January 24th.
 

Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
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Rank	Ending Date	Mean Avg Temperature Dec 1 to Jan 24	Missing Count
1	2016-01-24	43.1	0
2	2007-01-24	42.3	0
-	1932-01-24	42.3	0
3	2002-01-24	41.1	0
4	1995-01-24	40.7	0
5	2024-01-24	40.6	0
6	2023-01-24	40.5	0
7	1950-01-24	40.4	2
8	2012-01-24	40.1	0
-	1933-01-24	40.1	0
9	1913-01-24	39.9	0
10	1937-01-24	39.6	0

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, bluewave said:

First time that NYC had two consecutive winters that averaged over 40° through January 24th.
 

Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
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Rank	Ending Date	Mean Avg Temperature Dec 1 to Jan 24	Missing Count
1	2016-01-24	43.1	0
2	2007-01-24	42.3	0
-	1932-01-24	42.3	0
3	2002-01-24	41.1	0
4	1995-01-24	40.7	0
5	2024-01-24	40.6	0
6	2023-01-24	40.5	0
7	1950-01-24	40.4	2
8	2012-01-24	40.1	0
-	1933-01-24	40.1	0
9	1913-01-24	39.9	0
10	1937-01-24	39.6	0

Think we'll end up above 40.0 this winter just like we did last winter?

I assume by winter, we're talking about DJF only?

 

[Allsnow]

45 minutes ago, bluewave said:

The temperature forecast for Friday looks like an early preview of the spring backdoor season.

Brutal. Why can’t we hit 70

 

[LibertyBell]

4 minutes ago, bluewave said:

First time that NYC had two consecutive winters that averaged over 40° through January 24th.
 

Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
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Rank	Ending Date	Mean Avg Temperature Dec 1 to Jan 24	Missing Count
1	2016-01-24	43.1	0
2	2007-01-24	42.3	0
-	1932-01-24	42.3	0
3	2002-01-24	41.1	0
4	1995-01-24	40.7	0
5	2024-01-24	40.6	0
6	2023-01-24	40.5	0
7	1950-01-24	40.4	2
8	2012-01-24	40.1	0
-	1933-01-24	40.1	0
9	1913-01-24	39.9	0
10	1937-01-24	39.6	0

1931-32 and 1932-33?

Did both winters end up over 40.0 by the time winter ended?

 

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Brutal. Why can’t we hit 70

 

someone needs to destroy the pacific and atlantic oceans and then we would

[donsutherland1]

1 hour ago, uofmiami said:

 

I agree with Eric. The core of the above average 500 mb height anomalies would need to be over the Northeastern U.S. or southern Quebec to bring about such warmth.

[bluewave]

23 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Brutal. Why can’t we hit 70

 

We almost did last January but this current warm up is too wet with onshore flow. Almost like a summer version of rain and onshore flow shutting down any 100° potential.

Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY - Month of Jan
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Rank	Year	Highest Max Temperature	Missing Count
1	2007	72	0
-	1950	72	1
2	1932	70	0
3	2020	69	0
-	2002	69	0
-	1916	69	0
4	1967	68	0
-	1876	68	0
5	2023	66	0
-	2017	66	0
-	2005	66	0
-	1990	66	0
-	1974	66	0
-	1973	66	0
-	1937	66	0

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, bluewave said:

We almost did last January but this current warm up is too wet with onshore flow. Almost like a summer version of rain and onshore flow shutting down any 100° potential.

Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY - Month of Jan
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Rank	Year	Highest Max Temperature	Missing Count
1	2007	72	0
-	1950	72	1
2	1932	70	0
3	2020	69	0
-	2002	69	0
-	1916	69	0
4	1967	68	0
-	1876	68	0
5	2023	66	0
-	2017	66	0
-	2005	66	0
-	1990	66	0
-	1974	66	0
-	1973	66	0
-	1937	66	0

wow we've only hit 70 once in January since 1950?

 

[bluewave]

26 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

wow we've only hit 70 once in January since 1950?

 

Several stations reached 70° in January 2020 with the near record MJO 5.

 

Monthly Data for January 2020 for Upton NY NWS CWA
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State	Name	Station Type	Highest Max Temperature
CT	ANSONIA 1 NE	COOP	74
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	70
NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	70
NJ	CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP	WBAN	70
CT	NORWICH PUBLIC UTILITY PLANT	COOP	70
NY	NY CITY CENTRAL PARK	WBAN	69
NJ	HARRISON	COOP	69
NY	FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC AP	WBAN	69
CT	NEW HAVEN TWEED AP	WBAN	69
NY	SHIRLEY BROOKHAVEN AIRPORT	WBAN	69
CT	GROTON	COOP	69
CT	IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT	WBAN	69
NJ	CANOE BROOK	COOP	68
NY	JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	68
NY	ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP	WBAN	68
NY	MOUNT SINAI	COOP	68
CT	GUILFORD	COOP	68
CT	MERIDEN MARKHAM MUNICIPAL AP	WBAN	68
NY	LAGUARDIA AIRPORT	WBAN	67
NY	SHRUB OAK	COOP	67
NY	WESTHAMPTON GABRESKI AP	WBAN	67
NY	RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM	COOP	67
NY	UPTON COOP - NWSFO NEW YORK	COOP	67

 

 

[Dark Star]

2 hours ago, SACRUS said:

Jan 25, 2000 what coulda been snow storm  Dry slotted

 

https://www.raymondcmartinjr.com/weather/2000/25-Jan-00.html

There are lot of factors influencing a bust for a significant snowfall.  I think one of the hardest things to forecast is the dreaded dryslot.  You have a perfecty lined up intense storm, but becomes too intense that it sucks in dry air.  

[Dark Star]

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

That same year we had a major hurricane hit Manhattan directly lol

 

Pictures, please...

[Dark Star]

2 hours ago, JustinRP37 said:

Today was one of those days with a big temperature difference between home and the Bronx. Still snow covered in Patterson this morning (but won't last today) to warmer Bronx with steadier rain. Fog overnight was fairly impressive up north. As we approach the midpoint of winter (Feb 3rd) and are past the midpoint of met winter, if this winter were one of my students, I'd be assigning a D so far. That said I see a grade max of a B- depending on February (would have to be a historic change to earn higher) and it is still highly possible winter ends up with a F on the report card.

I think I woud assign a D-, no matter if the rest of the winter fizzles.  For me, last winter gets an F?

[psv88]

56 right now. Was 55 last year this date. 

[LibertyBell]

37 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

Pictures, please...

1821 bro ;-)

 

[LibertyBell]

34 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

I think I woud assign a D-, no matter if the rest of the winter fizzles.  For me, last winter gets an F?

last winter is a F- this winter is simply an F

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, bluewave said:

Several stations reached 70° in January 2020 with the near record MJO 5.

 

Monthly Data for January 2020 for Upton NY NWS CWA
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State	Name	Station Type	Highest Max Temperature
CT	ANSONIA 1 NE	COOP	74
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	70
NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	70
NJ	CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP	WBAN	70
CT	NORWICH PUBLIC UTILITY PLANT	COOP	70
NY	NY CITY CENTRAL PARK	WBAN	69
NJ	HARRISON	COOP	69
NY	FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC AP	WBAN	69
CT	NEW HAVEN TWEED AP	WBAN	69
NY	SHIRLEY BROOKHAVEN AIRPORT	WBAN	69
CT	GROTON	COOP	69
CT	IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT	WBAN	69
NJ	CANOE BROOK	COOP	68
NY	JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	68
NY	ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP	WBAN	68
NY	MOUNT SINAI	COOP	68
CT	GUILFORD	COOP	68
CT	MERIDEN MARKHAM MUNICIPAL AP	WBAN	68
NY	LAGUARDIA AIRPORT	WBAN	67
NY	SHRUB OAK	COOP	67
NY	WESTHAMPTON GABRESKI AP	WBAN	67
NY	RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM	COOP	67
NY	UPTON COOP - NWSFO NEW YORK	COOP	67

 

 

Thanks Chris, also check 1931-32 and 1932-33 as the only other consecutive winters that averaged 40.0 or above.

 

[MJO812]

Time to track the clipper flipper next week 

[JustinRP37]

34 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

I think I woud assign a D-, no matter if the rest of the winter fizzles.  For me, last winter gets an F?

Yeah I forget about the D- because my institution doesn't give them only D's, odd I know. We also don't give A+ (but don't think we need that for a winter anytime soon). Last winter definitely gets an F and this one is only at the D because I have more than 8 times my snowfall from last year (almost 10 inches this year as opposed to under 1.5 all of last). An F is still on the table though for this year! 

[winterwx21]

2 hours ago, Allsnow said:

Brutal. Why can’t we hit 70

 

I was hoping the model runs a few days ago that showed sun breaking out and temps popping to the low 60s were gonna be right. I'm going deer hunting tomorrow and that would've been nice, but now we're looking at cloudy and temps stuck in the 40s instead. Too bad. 

[winterwx21]

18 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Time to track the clipper flipper next week 

With the marginal temps we would probably need a clipper to come through at night to have any hope of seeing a little accumulation. 

[Allsnow]

4 minutes ago, winterwx21 said:

I was hoping the model runs a few days ago that showed sun breaking out and temps popping to the low 60s were gonna be right. I'm going deer hunting tomorrow and that would've been nice, but now we're looking at cloudy and temps stuck in the 40s instead. Too bad. 

Today will probably be the warmest day for our area 

[Brian5671]

40 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Today will probably be the warmest day for our area 

55 here -sneaky warm with some sun poking through