Jump to content
  • Member Statistics

    17,508
    Total Members
    7,904
    Most Online
    joxey
    Newest Member
    joxey
    Joined

February 2022


cleetussnow
 Share

Recommended Posts

In my view, things will only trend warmer with time; we should appreciate classic winter weather for our area when we can get it (not just referring to snow). 

People who prefer warmth will have plenty to enjoy as time moves on. 
 

(Referring to AGW - winter here may be very different in several decades) 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, EastonSN+ said:

Seems to be what Don was alluding to, muted MJO so lower influence.

The mjo this morning is taking its time to possibly going onto 4 which would mean colder temps for a period longer than expected. I do think it will warm up at the end of February but when is a question.

  • Like 1
  • Weenie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, Volcanic Winter said:

In my view, things will only trend warmer with time; we should appreciate classic winter weather for our area when we can get it (not just referring to snow). 

People who prefer warmth will have plenty to enjoy as time moves on. 

Eventually winter will be over and we will be soaking in the sun.

  • Thanks 1
  • Weenie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

26 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

It's tough to get too excited with the NAO/AO so positive. 

But the PNA should help us out at least once this month. 

By mid-month the +PNA is gone, that’s a flat GOA ridge not +PNA and the cold is dumping into the west, Rockies and Plains/central CONUS

  • Weenie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

The Pv never coupled which probably was a big help with the January cold. The mjo also in the cold phases helped a ton 

Agree

January was the coldest in years. 19.5 inches of snow last month was the most snow in January  in several years.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Was a good January down south by me, too. The most single digit lows in one month I can recall in the past several years. 
 

We underperformed in the ACY southern storm and only got an inch or two, but we made up for it big time. 22-24 inches of snow off the top of my head in January. 
 

Good spot for nor’easters that don’t mix at the shore, though I’m about 15 miles inland of the immediate coast. 
 

Anything this month I’ll take as gravy. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

22 minutes ago, Franklin0529 said:

Keep an eye on Tuesday. Passed couple days h5 looked better,  got work to do still but its about all we got.  besides this ice event for the northern crew 

Yes there's actually a lot of consensus on a system for that time and models are slowly trending more amped. 

Nice AO drop and spike are also indicative of some coastal threat.

  • Like 3
  • Thanks 1
  • Weenie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, bluewave said:

The whole chasing convection and bifurcated low thing was due to the upper low closing off late. So the low tracked further east. The +AO pattern was too progressive. The big snowstorm last February 1st was during a near record -3 to -5 -AO interval. So NYC and Newark were close to the jackpot. JFK got less than half the snowfall the other day than ISP. The 93-94 winter was -AO with a near record block over the pole. 
 

+AO more progressive favoring eastern areas

D682BCE5-EFE7-46C2-9872-3D4426A3E1B9.thumb.jpeg.49ed5042909176e4671271b601bd4705.jpeg
 

-AO allowed low to close of on time with jackpot over NNJ and NYC

 

A785AB37-01BB-4F5B-9C43-4EC2A8463F8A.thumb.png.577b05f98dc959d17bd636b997501e01.png

 

But JFK almost always gets less than half the snowfall than the jackpot, no matter the situation.  My main point being this.... NYC was never going to get 25 inches of snow.  It's in a central location and jackpots are usually to the west or to the east or to the south.  Look at what ACY got in January.... 33 inches.  Now are we to assume that locations further south do better in a positive NAO?  Of course not!  And we had a negative NAO in December and all it got us was 0.3.  A negative NAO is much less important for us than a west coast ridge, we need that above all else.  We can't hope for perfection-- it's very rare that everything will line up perfectly, and quite frankly if there is one thing I had to pick wouldn't line up it's a negative NAO.  We've had historic snowfall seasons and historic snowstorms without one (PD2 and 1993-94 and 1960-61 being cases in point.)  And look how well ACY did in a positive NAO in January.  We can't root or hope for perfection, because it rarely happens.  I also question the value of the nao when we have south based blocks and east based blocks that do diddly for us.  So rather than chasing ghosts, I'd rather have the sure thing-- which is a great Pacific.  Everything else matters FAR less than that.

Also, I choose not to compare JFK to ISP, because JFK would never get that kind of snowfall in any scenario unless we had a strong el nino.  I choose to compare JFK against its own historical record....and for JFK getting over a foot of pure snow is an MECS.  It was a great storm.  Anyone from Brooklyn on east and south had a great storm and has absolutely nothing to complain or whine about.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, Volcanic Winter said:

Was a good January down south by me, too. The most single digit lows in one month I can recall in the past several years. 
 

We underperformed in the ACY southern storm and only got an inch or two, but we made up for it big time. 22-24 inches of snow off the top of my head in January. 
 

Good spot for nor’easters that don’t mix at the shore, though I’m about 15 miles inland of the immediate coast. 
 

Anything this month I’ll take as gravy. 

Most of us coasties have had our seasonal snowfall for the entire winter already

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...