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Spring/Summer 2019 Complaint/Banter Thread


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8 hours ago, HillsdaleMIWeather said:

Now that we've had back to back tornadoes all over for days NegativeEPO has disappeared, until probably the next big  front where he'll complain about it being boring 

At least he doesn't have to water his palm trees.

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34 minutes ago, wisconsinwx said:

Anyone else think 2003 is a good analog so far for this warm season?  That seems to be the epitome of a slow start to summer around here among the last 20 years anyways.

All I remember about that summer is the epic wet July.  Don't really need that again.

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9 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

All I remember about that summer is the epic wet July.  Don't really need that again.

Yeah but it wouldn’t surprise me to see the wet anomalies expand north toward your area from what looks to be the southern and central Plains/Mississippi Valley for the first half of June anyways.

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1 hour ago, NegativeEPO said:

I swear, lake breezes/pneumonia fronts are stronger now than they were years back. Temps dropping into the 50s in June because of a silly lake breeze front? What's next, lake-effect snow in July? smh.

holy hyperbole, batman

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17 hours ago, wisconsinwx said:

Anyone else think 2003 is a good analog so far for this warm season?  That seems to be the epitome of a slow start to summer around here among the last 20 years anyways.

That year we actually had some decent tornado events (not including Iowa troll days) in this part of the country by the end of May. Particularly the 10th and 30th.

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4 hours ago, NegativeEPO said:

I'm starting to think this garbage, relentless, cold and wet pattern is related to the solar minimum. We're entering a deep solar minimum. Going to have to wait a few years at very least for this pattern to break. Might not see a warm year again until maybe the mid 2020s.

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Just gotta laugh how a -NAO was so hard to come by last winter, but has been so prevalent in the past couple months.  I think the correlation with temps does become less as you get into summer, meaning that a -NAO is not as likely to result in below average temps (for example, 2012 was a -NAO summer).  This is where looking at actual maps/patterns helps.

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On 6/9/2019 at 2:21 PM, Hoosier said:

Just gotta laugh how a -NAO was so hard to come by last winter, but has been so prevalent in the past couple months.  I think the correlation with temps does become less as you get into summer, meaning that a -NAO is not as likely to result in below average temps (for example, 2012 was a -NAO summer).  This is where looking at actual maps/patterns helps.

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A 2012 summer can start at anytime now.

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8 hours ago, HillsdaleMIWeather said:

Happy GFS "Upgrade" Day!

I seem to remember that the GFS has had some problems in the summertime with dew points too high (75-80 degrees) in generally moist time periods in the Midwest. I wonder if this upgrade may improve that somehow.

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Interesting that ORD has only had 4 days with high temps of 82+ so far in 2019, with zero days of 84+. Not sure what the average # of 82+ days is for ORD by June 13th in any given year, but it has to be significantly higher that what we've seen in 2019.  Normal high this time of year is 80, but it ramps up quickly to 85 by the end of June.

Strangely enough - despite all of the whining about how chilly it has been this Spring, the overall mean temp for the period April 1st - June 13th at ORD has been essentially normal.  Just not a lot of excessively cool or warm days.

To me, this apparent contrast illustrates that it's still fairly early in the warm season for NE IL, given the lake influence.  I generally consider "consistent summer" at ORD to be June 10th - Sep 10th, as opposed to May 15th - Sep 10th in other areas of IL away from the lake. 

No complaints from me; even with the excessive rainfall, temps have been fairly pleasant in May/June so far.

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