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July 2018 Discussions & Observations Thread


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Warm front is currently advancing Northward through the mid-atlantic, with an expanding rain shield up to about Cape May.

By the looks of the radar, should be a very wet second half of the day. 

Most of the models have this activity moving offshore, but you can clearly see it's all moving NNE.

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18 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

Warm front is currently advancing Northward through the mid-atlantic, with an expanding rain shield up to about Cape May.

By the looks of the radar, should be a very wet second half of the day. 

Most of the models have this activity moving offshore, but you can clearly see it's all moving NNE.

Sure does look more NNE than NE.  clouds racing in quick too.  Better today than the weekend

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I think I'll take all the WFOs and all the model guidance over radar hallucinations. Since doorman's not here, have an NCEP map presented without comment and figure out why the best forcing should weaken and slide offshore. 

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Also, winds on the relevant isentropic surfaces turn much more zonal near the M-D line, and the column up here is dry as a bone.

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2 hours ago, NJwx85 said:

Warm front is currently advancing Northward through the mid-atlantic, with an expanding rain shield up to about Cape May.

By the looks of the radar, should be a very wet second half of the day. 

Most of the models have this activity moving offshore, but you can clearly see it's all moving NNE.

Hard to believe every model is gonna be wrong about rain not making it up here this afternoon. You can see the radar echoes weakening and moving more ENE once they get up to southern Jersey. I could see some sprinkles making it up to central Jersey, but that should be about it.

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5 minutes ago, sferic said:

This Friday (August 3rd) the NYC mean makes its first drop by 1 degree to 76 degrees. By Aug 31st the mean is down to 73 degrees.

starting to lose daylight at a quicker pace from here on out as well.  Sunset is now 8:12pm, 18 minutes off the peak from late June...

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57 minutes ago, winterwx21 said:

Hard to believe every model is gonna be wrong about rain not making it up here this afternoon. You can see the radar echoes weakening and moving more ENE once they get up to southern Jersey. I could see some sprinkles making it up to central Jersey, but that should be about it.

We'll see.

When I made my earlier post I hadn't looked at a single model run, just based it off of current trends and observations.

It looks like the radar is trying to fill in over E PA near Allentown, so I guess time will tell.

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19 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

We'll see.

When I made my earlier post I hadn't looked at a single model run, just based it off of current trends and observations.

It looks like the radar is trying to fill in over E PA near Allentown, so I guess time will tell.

Fill in near Allentown? All I see on radar out that way is false echoes. And you can clearly see the echoes way to the south being pushed east when they make it up to southern Jersey. It's very obvious to me that there's not going to be any rain at all up here this afternoon, but we'll see.

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18 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

We'll see.

When I made my earlier post I hadn't looked at a single model run, just based it off of current trends and observations.

It looks like the radar is trying to fill in over E PA near Allentown, so I guess time will tell.

Focus on batch of rain/storms moving NE out of  WV/SW-PA

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10 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

Focus on batch of rain/storms moving NE out of  WV/SW-PA

Yes I'm not sure what he was talking about near Allentown. On the Mount Holly base reflectivity loop you can see echoes south of Allentown through central Jersey, but they are clearly false echoes (ground clutter).

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6 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

While it does appear that the batch of rain from down in the Mid-Atlantic is having trouble reaching further North of Central NJ, there is quite a bit of rain over Northern PA and extreme Southern NY that appears to be heading in this direction.

https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?product=NCR&rid=bgm&loop=yes

that's where I think we can catch a surprise tonight and tomorrow AM

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5 hours ago, NJwx85 said:

While it does appear that the batch of rain from down in the Mid-Atlantic is having trouble reaching further North of Central NJ, there is quite a bit of rain over Northern PA and extreme Southern NY that appears to be heading in this direction.

https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?product=NCR&rid=bgm&loop=yes

Of course heading in our direction doesn't mean it's gonna rain here, and the rain fell apart as expected. The models were right about us getting nothing this afternoon and evening.

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1 hour ago, winterwx21 said:

Of course heading in our direction doesn't mean it's gonna rain here, and the rain fell apart as expected. The models were right about us getting nothing this afternoon and evening.

models from hour 0-12 are very accurate for the most part...that get lost in the shuffle sometimes...

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Last day of July is averaging 76degs , or 1deg. BN.

Month to date is  +1.1 and should end there.  Take out the first 5 days of July and the remainder of July was -0.5.

The full 8 days is 81/+4.  

GFS has 11 day HW starting Aug. 5.

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So much for the idea of heading north to avoid the July heat.

July 2018 is shaping up to have the warmest average July temperature on record for Burlington, VT with ~76 degrees and avg max of ~87 or more like Philadelphia, PA. Here is the mean weather pattern responsible. Read more atow.ly/5zkD30lbMZV #MeteorologicalMonday #BTV pic.twitter.com/KUIGvgpxA1
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2 hours ago, bluewave said:

Parts of Suffolk continue the dry July pattern since 2013. This is the 6th consecutive July with below normal rainfall at Islip.

2018...2.98....-0.33 so far...normal...3.43

2017...2.11....-1.32

2016...3.22....-0.21

2015...1.74....-1.69

2014...2.96....-0.47

2013...2.34....-1.09

This is a pattern that seems to happen most summers out east where it is a lot drier than the western part of the island because they miss the thunderstorms.  My house in Laurel Hollow has had 4.38 inches for the past month whereas my house in Southampton at 2.81 inches.

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