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November 2017 Discussion

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3 hours ago, Chambana said:

Car had 62 earlier. A warm thanksgiving weekend for sure. Bo complaining a 8” snowdepth disappearing in NOVEMBER ;) most of us will see that in the heart of winter. 

I will proudly complain about losing my 10-12 inch snow depth. It's catastrophic. I am DEVASTATED.

 

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I'm enjoying this gradual switch to winter. Nothing worse than a quick cold snap and some accumulations followed by a hot mess like last season. The snow and cold will be here before long...

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45 minutes ago, DAFF said:

I'm enjoying this gradual switch to winter. Nothing worse than a quick cold snap and some accumulations followed by a hot mess like last season. The snow and cold will be here before long...

I am hoping for some colder overnight lows to get the ground nice and cold. Worst part about the winter of 2011-2012 was the immediate melting after any snowfall because the ground was so exceptionally warm.

 

On another note, 87 is Kansas today!?! Geesh.

 

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Got up early to get on the slopes at alpine valley in WI before it turned in to a slop fest. With the cold earlier this week they were able to lay a nice base down. Turned in to a disaster, by 2 it was an icy slop fest, my 7 year old daughter biffed and broke her tibia. Needless to say, I wasn’t enjoying today’s warmth. When we left to head to the urgent care the car thermometer had 68 (east troy, wi)

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29 minutes ago, krfd said:

Got up early to get on the slopes at alpine valley in WI before it turned in to a slop fest. With the cold earlier this week they were able to lay a nice base down. Turned in to a disaster, by 2 it was an icy slop fest, my 7 year old daughter biffed and broke her tibia. Needless to say, I wasn’t enjoying today’s warmth. When we left to head to the urgent care the car thermometer had 68 (east troy, wi)
 

Woah that sucks dude. I hope she's okay and Gets better quickly. No one should have to go through any of that process, it's awful through and through.

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1 hour ago, krfd said:

Got up early to get on the slopes at alpine valley in WI before it turned in to a slop fest. With the cold earlier this week they were able to lay a nice base down. Turned in to a disaster, by 2 it was an icy slop fest, my 7 year old daughter biffed and broke her tibia. Needless to say, I wasn’t enjoying today’s warmth. When we left to head to the urgent care the car thermometer had 68 (east troy, wi)
 

That's a story she can tell for a long time: "I broke a bone falling on ice when it was 68 degrees." Not often you get to say something like that. Hoping for quick healing for her!

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4 hours ago, Hoosier said:

80s in Kansas

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Well, it may have gone up to 55 here today but with 15 to 20 gusting upwards of 30 it sure as hell didn't feel like it.  Tried to work outside and it was to warm for a coat and to cold for a jacket.  Pfffft!!

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If it's not going to snow, bring on the warmth! I hate the cold, enjoy the snow. I am thoroughly enjoying this warm weather. It looks to continue for at least the next 2 weeks, possibly longer unless we get the Pacific to cooperate. 

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11 hours ago, DAFF said:

I'm enjoying this gradual switch to winter. Nothing worse than a quick cold snap and some accumulations followed by a hot mess like last season. The snow and cold will be here before long...

I have also long said, that for whatever reason, people tend to forget what happens in December when the Winter is over. Last Winter it was the 13th snowiest December on record at Detroit, but so many people acted like it was a "non Winter" (and keep in mind, we still had more snow from January to March than most). On the flip side, coming off the historic 2013-14 Winter, the Winter of 2014-15 was another severe Winter. November, January, & February were brutally cold (and the last half of Winter had very deep snow as well). So once Winter ended, people were lamenting how this was the 2nd straight severe Winter - not as severe as last, but still a lot worse than normal. Naturally they had long forgotten that it was the 2nd least snowy December on record. 

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6 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

I have also long said, that for whatever reason, people tend to forget what happens in December when the Winter is over. Last Winter it was the 13th snowiest December on record at Detroit, but so many people acted like it was a "non Winter" (and keep in mind, we still had more snow from January to March than most). On the flip side, coming off the historic 2013-14 Winter, the Winter of 2014-15 was another severe Winter. November, January, & February were brutally cold (and the last half of Winter had very deep snow as well). So once Winter ended, people were lamenting how this was the 2nd straight severe Winter - not as severe as last, but still a lot worse than normal. Naturally they had long forgotten that it was the 2nd least snowy December on record. 

 

The winters of 2015-2016 and 2016-2017 were complete turds. Yes the winter of 2014-2015 was cold, very cold at times especially November and February, but December 2014 we tied the record for the least snowiest December on record with just a T, also tied again the following year in 2015. February 2015 we were  also whiffed again by “GHD II” almost completely. I agree though, the winter of 2013-2014 was the harshest winter I’ve ever experienced by far, weekly 4-6” snowstorms, the arctic unloading relentlessly, and not to mention one of my favorite storms ever, major winter storm “Ion”. 

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1 minute ago, Chambana said:

 

The winters of 2015-2016 and 2016-2017 were complete turds. Yes the winter of 2014-2015 was cold, very cold at times especially November and February, but December 2014 we tied the record for the least snowiest December on record with just a T, also tied again the following year in 2015. February 2015 we were  also whiffed again by “GHD II” almost completely. I agree though, the winter of 2013-2014 was the harshest winter I’ve ever experienced by far, weekly 4-6” snowstorms, the arctic unloading relentlessly, and not to mention one of my favorite storms ever, major winter storm “Ion”. 

I don't know these storm names.  Was that the January 5 storm?

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1 minute ago, Hoosier said:

I don't know these storm names.  Was that the January 5 storm?

Yes you are correct. Never seen heavy snow at 18 degrees, followed by the coldest air mass I can remember. I remember waking up 1/6/14 with a windchill of -40

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Just now, Chambana said:

Yes you are correct. Never seen heavy snow at 18 degrees, followed by the coldest air mass I can remember. I remember waking up 1/6/14 with a windchill of -40

Yeah that storm followed immediately by the arctic plunge were the top highlights of the winter for me.

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1 hour ago, Hoosier said:

Yeah that storm followed immediately by the arctic plunge were the top highlights of the winter for me.

That winter featured damn near everything besides a white Christmas ironically. Thundersnow in February, snow depth of 12” for 2 weeks, hardly any thaws, just an all around punishing brutal winter. My father was born in 1961 and remembers the winters of the late 70s very well, including blizzard of 78, and agrees 2013-2014 was the harshest winter we will ever see around these parts .

 

This late November warmup is really going to chew away at the negative departure we built up this month. 58 degrees today after reaching 61 yesterday. 

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EXTREMELY unlucky that the thermal ridge doesn't pass over our area until Monday night. Monday would be very warm if the ridge could move in just a little bit quicker. Just awful timing.

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15 minutes ago, cmillzz said:

EXTREMELY unlucky that the thermal ridge doesn't pass over our area until Monday night. Monday would be very warm if the ridge could move in just a little bit quicker. Just awful timing.

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You should still get a couple days in the 50s out of it (maybe near 60 on Tuesday especially if the front slows down a touch).  Enjoy what you get.

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Have mid 60s in the point for tomorrow, so another warm one on tap.  Record in MLI/CID is 70/69, so we'll give it another good run.  Don't think we'll perform as well as Friday, but mid to upper 60s look possible.  HRRRx keeps temps around 60ish, which is about 6-7 degrees cooler than what it forecast for Friday.  It did the best out of all the models regarding temps, although even it was too conservative that day.

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1 hour ago, cyclone77 said:

Have mid 60s in the point for tomorrow, so another warm one on tap.  Record in MLI/CID is 700/69, so we'll give it another good run.  Don't think we'll perform as well as Friday, but mid to upper 60s look possible.  HRRRx keeps temps around 60ish, which is about 6-7 degrees cooler than what it forecast for Friday.  It did the best out of all the models regarding temps, although even it was too conservative that day.

700 degrees at MLI? sheesh, that's a hot one, glad I wasnt around here for that.;)

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I've noticed this year when we get these long, benign weather patterns, when the shift does come it's just as dramatic on the flip.  Something to look forward to, perhaps...?

Not much going on here.  Weather story is the wind later today.  Despite being above freezing yesterday, the ground is still covered in snow imy, but I noticed last night down in Negaunee there were only piles and patches.

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