HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Will there be any office buildings in New england with any windows left? Yup, Hartford where they will be enjoying partly cloudy skies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 People should not want giants leaps in their favor. It never works out. Take it step by step. We'll see what the Canadian and Euro do. Well, That was a pretty big jump west from 06z, If i was sitting here with snow over me i would probably more content, Not to say that this won't happen here but we will need a jump further west here to what it did at 06z thats all i am getting at, And if this system is this wound up it should be further NW i would think......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooralph Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I see pain and heartache ahead. I see weenies missing Christmas dinner to see if the Euro Ensembles reverse an out to sea trend, then drunkenly flinging toys at the fire place when the 0Z GFS comes in Christmas night with a VA/NC special. F*ck it. I'm in. I might be sending the sled we get our son off the roof Griswold-style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Like sands thru the hourglass.these are the days of our lives Hey I think we all said we thought the GFS was trash as it has had glaring biases this past two weeks that are impossible to deny. Four days ago it had no snows on the backside of the existing low. I still think the SE 1/3 of new england from will to you, up through SE NH and SW ME south and east has by far the best chance. Cautiously optimistic at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowMan Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I doubt it: 1) These types of exotic deepening rates bend the subgeostrophic (low level wind field) quite normal to the isobaric medium (where typically a balance flow would be approximately 20 degrees for subgeostrophy). In this case, the deepening rate exceed the time-integration of Coriolis effect, such that the wind will blow almost directly at the low when it drops 12mb is 4 hours that way. What that means sensibly is that the wind will be NNE, and will also help pull down signicant cold over snow pack in central and N New England. 2) This thing is about as dynamically charged as is physically possible on the Planet Earth. The combination of torque dynamics froma negatively tilting trough with attending 40+ units of vorticity advecting nearly normal (straight across) the geopotential medium, combined with this doing operation turbo suckage off the Gulf and near-by SE U.S. Gulf Stream latent heat sources, is pretty much indescribably amazing here. Lift in the core of this ... may as well be a tornado. Lift drills the heights and thicknesses lower (complicated boring math) and that feeds back into cooling the column. If that tracks about 100 miles closer people would be shocked at the whiteout blitz going on all the way down to BOS-PVD line, with a mixin between there and the Canal. Wow...thanks. The explanation is much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Gotta keep the motion in check till the 12z Euro holds serve. GFS could be playing catch up with the Euro. Euro Ensm. were well E of the BM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 60h GGEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Yup, Hartford where they will be enjoying partly cloudy skies. Don't mind Kev. He thinks everyone in New England lives SE of Taunton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 GGEM looks much like the GFS. Think it may end in a tighter solution but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Gotta keep the motion in check till the 12z Euro holds serve. GFS could be playing catch up with the Euro. Euro Ensm. were well E of the BM. At this point I can't see the euro going east after that run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 GGEM looks much like the GFS. Think it may end in a tighter solution but we'll see. If the GGEM comes in close to the 00z run, I'll feel confident about the 12z Euro holding serve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Land hoooo! Hopefully this thing will continue to tick westward a bit. The 1 week old dusting in my yard is just about expired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Don't mind Kev. He thinks everyone in New England lives SE of Taunton We are going to need a little more help, But the trend is favorable so far.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Gotta keep the motion in check till the 12z Euro holds serve. GFS could be playing catch up with the Euro. Euro Ensm. were well E of the BM. I'm computer impaired at the moment but this looks to be outside the BM on the GFS, towards the EC Ens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 Don't mind Kev. He thinks everyone in New England lives SE of Taunton How much for Laconia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Don't mind Kev. He thinks everyone in New England lives SE of Taunton Gotta' admit our area (Greenfield, Keene, Brattleboro) is long overdue. I for one will just enjoy watching you guys analyze the models and hope this thing ends up just inside the BM. You too, Logan 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 The GFS did what we needed to see.... Now maybe there is hope ...at least for NE. Land hoooo! Hopefully this thing will continue to tick westward a bit. The 1 week old dusting in my yard is just about expired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 12z ensembles def came west. 1008mb low about 80-100 miles ese of ILM at hr 96. Low moves to about 200+ miles or so east of ORF as a 997 low. at hr 120 it's about 130miles east of the BM as a sub 990 low. Not bad for ensembles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 At this point I can't see the euro going east after that run It easily could. The euro was so amped up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 Ukie as bad as it's been might foretell which direction Euro goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I doubt it: 1) These types of exotic deepening rates bend the subgeostrophic (low level wind field) quite normal to the isobaric medium (where typically a balance flow would be approximately 20 degrees for subgeostrophy). In this case, the deepening rate exceed the time-integration of Coriolis effect, such that the wind will blow almost directly at the low when it drops 12mb is 4 hours that way. What that means sensibly is that the wind will be NNE, and will also help pull down signicant cold over snow pack in central and N New England. 2) This thing is about as dynamically charged as is physically possible on the Planet Earth. The combination of torque dynamics froma negatively tilting trough with attending 40+ units of vorticity advecting nearly normal (straight across) the geopotential medium, combined with this doing operation turbo suckage off the Gulf and near-by SE U.S. Gulf Stream latent heat sources, is pretty much indescribably amazing here. Lift in the core of this ... may as well be a tornado. Lift drills the heights and thicknesses lower (complicated boring math) and that feeds back into cooling the column. If that tracks about 100 miles closer people would be shocked at the whiteout blitz going on all the way down to BOS-PVD line, with a mixin between there and the Canal. SOme of us want more than a 100 miles, but we're just being greedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 12z ensembles def came west. 1008mb low about 80-100 miles ese of ILM at hr 96. Low moves to about 200+ miles or so east of ORF as a 997 low. at hr 120 it's about 130miles east of the BM as a sub 990 low. Not bad for ensembles. Ensemble mean looks only about 80-100 miles east of the operational I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 The bad thing is that Christmas day could be filled with model watching and drunk posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 The bad thing is that Christmas day could be filled with model watching and drunk posting ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Good news the GGEM has pushed the storm back again, so we still have a good 5 days of model watching. Winter will be over before this storm makes it up the coast....wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Canadian looks like gfs in some ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 The bad thing is that Christmas day could be filled with model watching and drunk posting I hope we are at least all drunk with enthusiasm over a pending MECS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 GGEM went east some---again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Wow! Ggem is gonna be a bomb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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