Powerball Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 As Hoosier stated last night, patience will be critical with this one. The best snows aren't expected to develop for another several hours, so the radar right now can be deceiving. The shortwave itself driving all of this is still back in the Central Plains. So we definitely have a long ways to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Northern Indiana NWS has now extended the Winter Storm Warning to include Defiance Henry and Paulding County in NW Ohio through 4 AM Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 ORD is sitting at 3.6" so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Many of us have just been put under a heavy snowfall warning in southwestern Ontario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddyweather Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 6 minutes ago, Jim Martin said: Northern Indiana NWS has now extended the Winter Storm Warning to include Defiance Henry and Paulding County in NW Ohio through 4 AM Monday. Mentions 6-9" in those areas. Heavy snow bands continuing to form over Indiana and push in that direction. Curious to see how rain/WAA affects things in NW OH later tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I just noticed the car has been iced over by freezing drizzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveSN+ Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Managed to squeak out a nice dusting down here last with night, with around a half an inch. More than I expected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 28 minutes ago, MikeGold said: The airport has official totals. http://en.tutiempo.net/climate/ws-725374.html U of M is another reporting station for A2. It is right next to the river and downtown so usually a little warmer/less snow than the airport I would think. The last 15 years or so have an average of snowfall of about 58" which is quite decent for SE Michigan. No liking the recent down tick in snowfall locally with the heavier bands setting up much further North at the moment. Hopefully, a different frontal slope zone lights up later today that is more favorable when WAA becomes much stronger. Of course, not happy about that dry slot out West either. I am not the least bit worried. This is following evolution of the models fine. In a few hours the dry slot south of us will blossom into heavy precip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 8 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: I am not the least bit worried. This is following evolution of the models fine. In a few hours the dry slot south of us will blossom into heavy precip DTX also mentioned the potential for snowflake aggregation later today (think muffin-sized flakes at 1"+per hour rates) as the low-level forcing increases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoof Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 3.75" here in Central MI now (way better than expected so far), that 30dbz band stalling overhead really added up fast. Great ratios out of that band, you can barely feel any weight shoveling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Very strange system, as far as the juxtaposition of the warning criteria snows relative to the low track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Northern Indiana NWS has now extended the Winter Storm Warning to include Defiance Henry and Paulding County in NW Ohio through 4 AM Monday.Haha yes however it has hit the Cleveland wall. The problems with warnings Toledo metro faces from not being under IWX is awful. Small rant here but the metro area has 600,000 residents while down around Findlay has another 60-70,000 people around it. It would be better to expand IWX to cover these as this would be easily the biggest city in the area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Interesting tidbit from NWS Northern Indiana... .UPDATE... Issued at 1108 AM EST Sun Dec 11 2016 Minor update to increase snowfall totals a bit and expand the warning one tier of counties southward. Increasing 285-290K isentropic ascent allowing heavier snowfall rates to blossom across our S/SW counties. This activity will continue to slowly shift N/NE during the day per RAP and HRRR with moderate snow continuing in our central CWA for most of the day. Latest 12Z guidance also showing less northward expansion of warm air this evening...allowing for more snow and less rain/sleet. Snow ratios will still be quite low but this trend is enough to warrant expansion of inherited warning. Some concern that even the White- Huntington tier of counties may end up with around 8 inches (especially across the northern sections of those counties) by this evening given current heavy snow and less mix potential. However, RAP and HRRR show heavier snow shifting out of these counties in the next few hours and confidence is not high enough to issue a warning at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Snowing for the first time since early yesterday eve. Raining down small flakes. Temp up to 32. Burlington up to 38 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 9 minutes ago, nwohweather said: Haha yes however it has hit the Cleveland wall. The problems with warnings Toledo metro faces from not being under IWX is awful. Small rant here but the metro area has 600,000 residents while down around Findlay has another 60-70,000 people around it. It would be better to expand IWX to cover these as this would be easily the biggest city in the area 000 FXUS61 KCLE 111513 AFDCLE Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Cleveland OH 1013 AM EST Sun Dec 11 2016 No major changes to the forecast for today with this update. Forecast still looks on track, however somewhat concerned about the need for an increase in snow amounts across northwest Ohio. Early morning lull in snowfall is quickly coming to an end and drier area filling back in on radar in northwest Ohio. Many surface obs there reporting 3/4 mi. snow, with heavier bands starting to materialize back in western Indiana. 12Z NAM and latest HRRR runs bringing these bands through NW OH over the next few hours, and again cranking some heavier bands through during the 21Z to 03Z period. Will continue to monitor latest guidance/observational trends over the next few hours and update accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 Temp already knocking at the door of freezing here. That is earlier than I wanted to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDude Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 000 FXUS63 KLOT 111702 AFDLOT Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Chicago/Romeoville, IL 1102 AM CST Sun Dec 11 2016 .UPDATE... 1100 AM CST In spite of the fact that the break in the snowfall was longer than previously expected, we are still expecting moderate, to occasionally heavy snow, to continue to redevelop over the area into this afternoon as better larger scale forcing associated with the main mid-level disturbance overspreads the area. We are already seeing signs of this, with radar echos beginning to light up on the radar, and see no reason why this trend will not continue. Therefore, this event is by no means over. Given that the morning RAOBs out of DVN and ILX both indicated the presence of steep mid-level lapse rates, some heaver snow rates will continue to be a possibility this afternoon and into the early evening hours. The heaviest snow fall this afternoon and evening looks to impact much of eastern Illinois and into northwestern Indiana. In these areas another 4 to 8 inches of wet snow will be possible before the snow ends this evening. Lighter amounts of snow are still expected over north central Illinois and over my far southern counties. While snow amounts in some of the warning area may fail to reach criteria levels, no changes are planed to the going headlines at this time. KJB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Up to 4.8" and still SN. I spoke with IWX about expanding the warning another tier of counties south, as I expect us to hit warning criteria in a couple of hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 33* in Anderson. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 Nice band just to my south (like a couple miles). Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Pretty ragged looking system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Decent snow starting here again.We'll see what this final wave produces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 9 hours ago, HillsdaleMIWeather said: GRR just did the expected and upgraded their counties south of 96 to a warning, citing what's gonna happen later. DUH!!!!! (Insert face-palm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 had 3.8 at 12pm, so over 4 now. DTW had 3.7 at 1pm. Now ready for the heavy snow this afternoon and evening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 ORD is up to 3.9"Radar is filling in and guidance shows snow continuing until around 3z. So 6"+ still looks fairly likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim101 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Have added 2” of new snow fall since 9:30AM and now have a total of 11” on the ground. Still getting light snow falling here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baum Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Starting to get a decent rate again just west of Chicago.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 Up to 32 here now. Have been fairly unlucky with not getting into the better banding. I'm not throwing in the towel per se but given my temp and overall trends, not even sure I will break 6" here. Hopefully things come together and finish strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 hour ago, IWXwx said: Up to 4.8" and still SN. I spoke with IWX about expanding the warning another tier of counties south, as I expect us to hit warning criteria in a couple of hours. My Cousin in Akron, IN sent me this... Matches your totals nicely... maybe a bit more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Have had off and on bursts of light snow, with decent dendrites. Hasn't really accumulated though, as it's been compacting the higher ratio stuff that fell last night. At least it's offsetting the melting now that the temp is above freezing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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