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That is 12 + inches of snow - if that verifies it is NYC's 37th storm above 12 inches

 

DM - who has been the miser all year liked 8 to 12 out of the box , so if`s inside the envelope  and a great call if it holds . We saw these set up last year where 15 to 1 were common w arctic waves with similar air masses . Would be great to add to the pack .

 

IT WILL ONLY INCREASE OUR CHANCES TO GET KNYC BELOW 0 TUES AM

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A slightly faster neutral to negative tilt in later runs and closer to the coast low  could boost the QPF with those great ratios. By the way, did you check out the great ratios the other day at Islip esp on front end.

26  28  23  26  -4  39   0 0.19  7.5   27  24  17  21 -10  44   0 1.44            17.4  ( I ASSUME THIS ) ?   

This air mass is colder , but I like to cap the coast at 15 to 1 when looking at this . If it goes over it`s a bonus .

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12+ storms since 1995 (offhand so someone correct me if wrong)

Jan 1996

Dec 2000

Feb 2003

Dec 2003

Jan 2005

Feb 2006

Feb 2010

Dec 2010

Jan 2011

Feb 2013* (close enough)

Jan 2014 (close enough)

Feb 2014

a couple of other close ones include;

Jan 2015

Jan 2014

Jan 2011 (11th?)

Feb 2010 (non snowicane)

Dec 2009

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Not for nothing, that look on the Euro is amazing post 144 hrs. It'll change many times I'm sure, but the pattern is beautiful.

The thing that annoys me verbatim on the Euro for the Miller A is that their's a 1004 MB LP in Canada at hr 144. That can definitely change for the better and the EPS are jumping all over it. This storm is definitely changing for the better.  

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For the 4 main models there is at least some agreement between GEFS/GFS, gem ensembles, euro op and ukie for a moderate (4+) event for nyc south. That's pretty good agreement at this stage. In terms of finer details I mean ya a ton can change but I wouldn't say every model is different because they really aren't

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HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY

312 PM EST THU JAN 29 2015

CTZ005>012-NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ067>075-078>081-176>179-301100-

NORTHERN FAIRFIELD-NORTHERN NEW HAVEN-NORTHERN MIDDLESEX-

NORTHERN NEW LONDON-SOUTHERN FAIRFIELD-SOUTHERN NEW HAVEN-

SOUTHERN MIDDLESEX-SOUTHERN NEW LONDON-WESTERN PASSAIC-

EASTERN PASSAIC-HUDSON-WESTERN BERGEN-EASTERN BERGEN-WESTERN ESSEX-

EASTERN ESSEX-WESTERN UNION-EASTERN UNION-ORANGE-PUTNAM-ROCKLAND-

NORTHERN WESTCHESTER-SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER-NEW YORK (MANHATTAN)-BRONX-

RICHMOND (STATEN ISLAND)-KINGS (BROOKLYN)-NORTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-

NORTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-

NORTHERN QUEENS-NORTHERN NASSAU-SOUTHERN QUEENS-SOUTHERN NASSAU-

312 PM EST THU JAN 29 2015

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR SOUTHERN

CONNECTICUT...NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY AND SOUTHEAST NEW YORK.

.DAY ONE...THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT.

LIGHT SNOW WILL BECOME LIKELY BY LATE TONIGHT AND CONTINUE THROUGH

THE OVERNIGHT INTO FRIDAY. FROM ONE HALF INCH UP TO ONE INCH OF

SNOW ACCUMULATION IS POSSIBLE BY FRIDAY MORNING. THE FRIDAY

MORNING RUSH HOUR WILL BE IMPACTED BY THE SNOW.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...FRIDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY.

LIGHT SNOW CONTINUES THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING AND BEGINS TO TAPER

OFF AND END FROM WEST TO EAST FROM LATE MORNING INTO FRIDAY

AFTERNOON. A TOTAL OF ONE TO TWO INCHES IS POSSIBLE WITH THE

HIGHEST AMOUNTS ACROSS THE LOWER HUDSON VALLEY THROUGH INTERIOR

SOUTHERN CONNECTICUT.

LOW PRESSURE WILL TRACK SOUTH OF LONG ISLAND SUNDAY NIGHT AND

MONDAY. ALTHOUGH THE EXACT TRACK AND TIMING OF THE SYSTEM ARE

STILL UNCERTAIN...THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR 6 INCHES OR MORE OF

SNOW ACROSS THE ENTIRE TRI-STATE AREA.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

SPOTTER ACTIVATION IS NOT EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.

&&

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK PROVIDES A SUMMARY OF POTENTIAL

WIDESPREAD HAZARDOUS WEATHER EVENTS THAT MAY REACH NWS WARNING

CRITERIA. MOST LONG FUSED NWS WATCHES...WARNINGS AND ADVISORIES IN

EFFECT ARE HIGHLIGHTED.

PLEASE REFER TO THE LATEST NWS FORECASTS FOR WEATHER NOT MEETING NWS

WARNING CRITERIA.

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HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOKNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY312 PM EST THU JAN 29 2015CTZ005>012-NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ067>075-078>081-176>179-301100-NORTHERN FAIRFIELD-NORTHERN NEW HAVEN-NORTHERN MIDDLESEX-NORTHERN NEW LONDON-SOUTHERN FAIRFIELD-SOUTHERN NEW HAVEN-SOUTHERN MIDDLESEX-SOUTHERN NEW LONDON-WESTERN PASSAIC-EASTERN PASSAIC-HUDSON-WESTERN BERGEN-EASTERN BERGEN-WESTERN ESSEX-EASTERN ESSEX-WESTERN UNION-EASTERN UNION-ORANGE-PUTNAM-ROCKLAND-NORTHERN WESTCHESTER-SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER-NEW YORK (MANHATTAN)-BRONX-RICHMOND (STATEN ISLAND)-KINGS (BROOKLYN)-NORTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-NORTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-NORTHERN QUEENS-NORTHERN NASSAU-SOUTHERN QUEENS-SOUTHERN NASSAU-312 PM EST THU JAN 29 2015THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR SOUTHERNCONNECTICUT...NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY AND SOUTHEAST NEW YORK..DAY ONE...THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT.LIGHT SNOW WILL BECOME LIKELY BY LATE TONIGHT AND CONTINUE THROUGHTHE OVERNIGHT INTO FRIDAY. FROM ONE HALF INCH UP TO ONE INCH OFSNOW ACCUMULATION IS POSSIBLE BY FRIDAY MORNING. THE FRIDAYMORNING RUSH HOUR WILL BE IMPACTED BY THE SNOW..DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...FRIDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY.LIGHT SNOW CONTINUES THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING AND BEGINS TO TAPEROFF AND END FROM WEST TO EAST FROM LATE MORNING INTO FRIDAYAFTERNOON. A TOTAL OF ONE TO TWO INCHES IS POSSIBLE WITH THEHIGHEST AMOUNTS ACROSS THE LOWER HUDSON VALLEY THROUGH INTERIORSOUTHERN CONNECTICUT.LOW PRESSURE WILL TRACK SOUTH OF LONG ISLAND SUNDAY NIGHT ANDMONDAY. ALTHOUGH THE EXACT TRACK AND TIMING OF THE SYSTEM ARESTILL UNCERTAIN...THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR 6 INCHES OR MORE OFSNOW ACROSS THE ENTIRE TRI-STATE AREA..SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...SPOTTER ACTIVATION IS NOT EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.&&THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK PROVIDES A SUMMARY OF POTENTIALWIDESPREAD HAZARDOUS WEATHER EVENTS THAT MAY REACH NWS WARNINGCRITERIA. MOST LONG FUSED NWS WATCHES...WARNINGS AND ADVISORIES INEFFECT ARE HIGHLIGHTED.PLEASE REFER TO THE LATEST NWS FORECASTS FOR WEATHER NOT MEETING NWSWARNING CRITERIA.

I hope nobody posts this on Facebook....

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There's nothing wrong with outlining a potential snowstorm, no need to downplay everything now because they busted on a storm.

not worried about downplaying, but with the inconsistency of the models, making the public aware that a storm is a possibility is really all they need to know. When I was in school, it was a rule that anything more than 3 days amounts were not to be discussed. A forecast discussion like that really needs to stay out of the public eye and in the hands of those who know what it really means. 

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not worried about downplaying, but with the inconsistency of the models, making the public aware that a storm is a possibility is really all they need to know. When I was in school, it was a rule that anything more than 3 days amounts were not to be discussed. A forecast discussion like that really needs to stay out of the public eye and in the hands of those who know what it really means.

Yes but everyone now has access to all information. It's the same thing as when I go to pull a rescue and someone tries telling me what to do because they did ten minutes of research on the Internet and they think they know better.
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