Ginx snewx Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 That's f'ing nuts! Anyone else think if the garage door was closed it might have survived? Here's the long version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 That damage was easily EF2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Ah I had no idea I googled EF car damage tornado.. lol. Must have been a pretty weak tornado then? No, wasn't implykng that. I just meant that the violent motion in both horizontal and vertical can do that...probably more likely if it's close to weak EF1 but I've read where it had happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Really impossible to say without knowing how well built the structure was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Really impossible to say without knowing how well built the structure waslook inside at the beginning, concrete walls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 look inside at the beginning, concrete walls I obviously have zero experience when it comes to this type of stuff but my initial guess was around an EF2 or EF3...these things can also be hard to judge b/c of wind concentration...you can have cases were you have such strong winds but they are really concentrated and other times the winds are more "symmetrical". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 No, wasn't implykng that. I just meant that the violent motion in both horizontal and vertical can do that...probably more likely if it's close to weak EF1 but I've read where it had happened. Meaning winds closer to EF1 to flip cars. Who knows how strong this was. Seems like ****ty construction there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Meaning winds closer to EF1 to flip cars. Who knows how strong this was. Seems like ****ty construction there too.a video engineer could measure object speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Anyone else think if the garage door was closed it might have survived? Here's the long version I'm betting the open door had a lot to do with it. I mean winds were strong enough to remove shingles, but the open door just allows an easy entrance point for wind. It's not that hard to significant wind gusts (70+) to push down those concrete blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 yea all that ... but for me I'm like ... how in the f did that individual get into a situation where he/she was leaving his/her home, in his/her car, with an EF2 tornado less than shouting distance??!! Two words: Darwin Award. ...certainly an honorable mention! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 yea all that ... but for me I'm like ... how in the f did that individual get into a situation where he/she was leaving his/her home, in his/her car, with an EF2 tornado less than shouting distance??!! Two words: Darwin Award. ...certainly an honorable mention! you go directly into the garage from the house, open the garage door, back out and start driving and then crap your pants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 you go directly into the garage from the house, open the garage door, back out and start driving and then crap your pants i guess. well, upon further thought ... its less likely for a Met that is actually interesting in weather, and not just fantacising the warm season away in a wash of cold weather delusions ... to be in that situation. Even if said sane person hadn't turned on media that faithful day of home-owner's insurance claims, there native awareness that's perpetual in a sense, would have them knowing ahead of time of such risk. For all others, it could just be their dumb luck that exposes them to their demise. Not everyone checks the weather before they leave; but then again, that's their fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 i guess. well, upon further thought ... its less likely for a Met that is actually interesting in weather, and not just fantacising the warm season away in a wash of cold weather delusions ... to be in that situation. Even if said sane person hadn't turned on media that faithful day of home-owner's insurance claims, there native awareness that's perpetual in a sense, would have them knowing ahead of time of such risk. For all others, it could just be their dumb luck that exposes them to their demise. Not everyone checks the weather before they leave; but then again, that's their fault. it's Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 it's Russia lol, 'nough said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I'm betting the open door had a lot to do with it. I mean winds were strong enough to remove shingles, but the open door just allows an easy entrance point for wind. It's not that hard to significant wind gusts (70+) to push down those concrete blocks. Exactly why the whole, "opening all the windows in the house to stabilize the pressure or whatever" is a myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Wicked squall going through western NY. KFZY gusted to 44 mph and Syracuse to 68mph! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Wicked squall going through western NY. KFZY gusted to 44 mph and Syracuse to 68mph! yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Wicked squall going through western NY. KFZY gusted to 44 mph and Syracuse to 68mph! Nice!!! A pocket of some weak instability located across that area....few hundred J/KG of Cape present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Think that makes it to Vt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 ideally, that will stop falling apart and come get me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Think that makes it to Vt? I wouldn't think so. Those gusts seem to have occurred in a very small and narrow zone of weak instability. Not sure if the instability is lake induced but I think it has some role in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Wicked squall going through western NY. KFZY gusted to 44 mph and Syracuse to 68mph! I can't believe that little pencil thin line produced 59kts at SYR! They didn't even record any real rain with it. Just SQ...what does the ASOS need to see to justify the "squall" observation?KSYR 132037Z 28023G59KT 10SM SQ FEW026 SCT035 BKN070 17/12 A3009 AO2 PK WND 25059/2031 WSHFT 2023 CIG 038 NW PRESRR T01670117 I'm assuming it's a short ramp up of winds or gusty winds then quick decrease (ie is time a factor)? Or is it just the difference between sustained wind and the gust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I can't believe that little pencil thin line produced 59kts at SYR! They didn't even record any real rain with it. Just SQ...what does the ASOS need to see to justify the "squall" observation? KSYR 132037Z 28023G59KT 10SM SQ FEW026 SCT035 BKN070 17/12 A3009 AO2 PK WND 25059/2031 WSHFT 2023 CIG 038 NW PRESRR T01670117 I'm assuming it's a short ramp up of winds or gusty winds then quick decrease (ie is time a factor)? Or is it just the difference between sustained wind and the gust? Correction, speed increasing by at least 16 knots to over 22 knots for at least a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Think that makes it to Vt? Unfortunately probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 They can get some mean westerly windshifts out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Not so sure tomorrow doesn't get sneaky interesting... There's a ..however well known 24-hour lag teleconnector for severe in and around the GL transmitting downwind into New England, and today, ample mid level streak dynamics zipping over decent heating and DP advection is causing some severe concern. As modeling goes ... the impulse and attended advection terms migrate up over our region tomorrow, and as is typically the case by SPC, ...they've elected to reduce any risk to just "See TXT" ... We see this from time to time tho, and that could easily be upgrade in short lead to SLGHT if need be. In any event, I feel the sky cover could be too pessimistic with deep layer SW flow .. .much like today has seen some signficant fracturing/sky-lights open in coverage -- not a-typical for SW flow, and well then we have to consider a tick or two better SBCAPE. Tomorrow we also start with higher launch pad after advecting in theta-e overnight. If it does go partial by 10 or 11am then I bit we see TCU soon thereafter. Haven't seen the other indices but just the look of the thing. Caveat also being that thing trying to come up the coast. NAM's pretty aggressive but keeps most of it off-shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I've been casually watching tomorrow for severe further west, but there are hints of some pre-frontal trough where some showers and storms could initiate. We're in the in-between as you mentioned with the low offshore and another moving into the eastern Great Lakes. Even the courser GFS shows a sliver of higher RH values in the mid-levels, but that doesn't reached western New England until 00z. Given that the shortwave axis remains so far west, I doubt we'll see anything organized. Perhaps a few stray pulsers or maybe a broken line of something late in the day. Despite stronger wind shear across PA/NY, even the threat there looks fairly iffy. Who knows, maybe we do manage do clear out to start the day, but anything beyond that is a long shot. The analogs do show one flukey early morning tornado report on Long Island with the 9/15/2000 setup. Timing is a bit off, but that featured a shortwave of similar position and strength as to what's expected tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Drove past the tornado site in Revere this weekend... definitely caught my attention as to the extent of the damage. It wasn't on my mind at all, didn't even realize I was on the same road, until I arrived and immediately knew that a tornado had come through recently. Impressive stuff and the SRH numbers that were posted here are just spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Drove past the tornado site in Revere this weekend... definitely caught my attention as to the extent of the damage. It wasn't on my mind at all, didn't even realize I was on the same road, until I arrived and immediately knew that a tornado had come through recently. Impressive stuff and the SRH numbers that were posted here are just spectacular. Yup... considering boundary layer winds were out of the E/NE when tornadogenesis occurred. Not exactly a common setup for a North Shore tornado! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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