Damage In Tolland Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 if he would only listen to us. This is a pike north deal even in lower elevations. Hoping for an inch in my hood...but the moisture will be moving out quickly. Here?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Here?? Where did I say no snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 4-8 with a warning for the s berks?! I wrote that from my basement cuz I'm headed there tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Perhaps I was referring to highest impact? You'll have an inch or two Kevin. Perhaps closer to two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Where did I say no snow? What does a Pike north deal mean then? Please elaborate. The way I read that is only Pike north gets snow IYO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 What does a Pike north deal mean then? Please elaborate. The way I read that is only Pike north gets snow IYO Highest impact. I know you hate that term...but that's what it is because the cold push aloft will slow it's southward push as a wave rides along the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 lol, I can't seem to think of a better spot than 1000ft near the MA/VT border for this system. I can. 2000' along the MA/VT border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Highest impact. I know you hate that term...but that's what it is because the cold push aloft will slow it's southward push as a wave rides along the front. Whatever happens..I'll be happy with 1-2 spot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Whatever happens..I'll be happy with 1-2 spot 3 What if the spot is not at your house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 4-8 with a warning for the s berks?! I wrote that from my basement cuz I'm headed there tonight Where are you headed? What does a Pike north deal mean then? Please elaborate. The way I read that is only Pike north gets snow IYO I have problems with the "pike north" reference for one reason: the Pike is a long road, and I sometimes think it's a reference to the Pike inside of 495 or 128--similarly with Route 2. I think sometimes its approrriate across the region, but other times it's a very boston-centric term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Where are you headed? I have problems with the "pike north" reference for one reason: the Pike is a long road, and I sometimes think it's a reference to the Pike inside of 495 or 128--similarly with Route 2. I think sometimes its approrriate across the region, but other times it's a very boston-centric term. Where are you headed? I have problems with the "pike north" reference for one reason: the Pike is a long road, and I sometimes think it's a reference to the Pike inside of 495 or 128--similarly with Route 2. I think sometimes its approrriate across the region, but other times it's a very boston-centric term. great barrington/sheffield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I think when people say pike north it's actually not Boston centric but more giving the idea that latitude vs other features is the biggest driver of who gets what. And in most swfe's that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 To me, this is looking like a good 2-4 hr burst of snow in most areas..perhaps longer in NW MA. The trends have been our friend over the last 24 hrs. The omega or lift will help flip this over so if indeed lift is strong..it may help flip BOS to TOL over quicker. If not, the opposite happens...but either way..seems like most areas flip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I think when people say pike north it's actually not Boston centric but more giving the idea that latitude vs other features is the biggest driver of who gets what. And in most swfe's that's the case. Yep, it's not always BOS centric. In this case, it's because the best combo of ingredients will be there for a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I like where the advisory is...though I might even consider moving it to Middlesex county MA too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I like where the advisory is...though I might even consider moving it to Middlesex county MA too. Lower elevations just north of the city may be game on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I like where the advisory is...though I might even consider moving it to Middlesex county MA too. Anyone notice the wording in ALB's Winter Storm Watch? 7" or more snowfall possible? Wow they are going all in. ...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN ALBANY HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING. * LOCATIONS...SOUTHERN CATSKILLS...SOUTHERN TACONICS...LITCHFIELD HILLS AND THE BERKSHIRES. * HAZARD TYPES...SNOW...MIXED WITH A LITTLE SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN. * ACCUMULATIONS...THE POTENTIAL FOR 7 INCHES OF SNOWFALL OR MORE. * MAXIMUM SNOWFALL RATES...AN INCH PER HOUR. * TIMING...PRECIPITATION DEVELOPING DURING THE AFTERNOON...STARTING OUT AS RAIN OR A WINTRY MIX...CHANGING TO ALL SNOW BY EVENING. * IMPACTS...HAZARDOUS TRAVEL. * WINDS...NORTHWEST 5 TO 10 MPH. * TEMPERATURES...DROPPING INTO THE MID OR UPPER 20S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Anyone notice the wording in ALB's Winter Storm Watch? 7" or more snowfall possible? Wow they are going all in. ...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN ALBANY HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING. * LOCATIONS...SOUTHERN CATSKILLS...SOUTHERN TACONICS...LITCHFIELD HILLS AND THE BERKSHIRES. * HAZARD TYPES...SNOW...MIXED WITH A LITTLE SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN. * ACCUMULATIONS...THE POTENTIAL FOR 7 INCHES OF SNOWFALL OR MORE. * MAXIMUM SNOWFALL RATES...AN INCH PER HOUR. * TIMING...PRECIPITATION DEVELOPING DURING THE AFTERNOON...STARTING OUT AS RAIN OR A WINTRY MIX...CHANGING TO ALL SNOW BY EVENING. * IMPACTS...HAZARDOUS TRAVEL. * WINDS...NORTHWEST 5 TO 10 MPH. * TEMPERATURES...DROPPING INTO THE MID OR UPPER 20S. That is really going all out. You have to have 50% confidence or better for 7"+ for more than half of the watch area to issue that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Is Albany using WXbell's snow maps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 That is really going all out. You have to have 50% confidence or better for 7"+ for more than half of the watch area to issue that. I was shocked when I saw that. What are they basing it on? 6z Nam they cite? HPC probs are nowhere near that, although they are about 50% for 4 inches or more out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I will say there looks to be strong frontogenesis for a time near Albany and extending east along and north of the pike so it wouldn't shock me if someone had a weenie total in their WFO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 How much for Fairfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 That is really going all out. You have to have 50% confidence or better for 7"+ for more than half of the watch area to issue that. Sounds like they have 50% confidence in 7"+... haha. BEING THIS COULD BE THE FIRST SIGNIFICANT WIDESPREAD SNOWFALL EVENT OF THE YEAR...AND THE CONFIDENCE LEVEL FOR HEAVY SNOW (7 INCHES OR MORE) WAS RIGHT AROUND 50 PERCENT...WE WENT AHEAD AND ISSUED A WINTER STORM WATCH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Temps really tumbling. Down to 43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 great barrington/sheffield A Norman Rockwell Christmas look in store. I think when people say pike north it's actually not Boston centric but more giving the idea that latitude vs other features is the biggest driver of who gets what. And in most swfe's that's the case. I realize that. But I do think it's used in other events as well. That is really going all out. You have to have 50% confidence or better for 7"+ for more than half of the watch area to issue that. Sometimes I'm happy to be in the netherland between Albany and BOX. Being bordered by albany zones to the north and west frequently keeps me guessing. I'm also shocked and smugly satisfied that the thread I started 6 days ago for a dubious-looking event might provide folks a couple inches to kick off the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I can. 2000' along the MA/VT border. If you really want the goods you need to move to Heath, Savoy or somewhere high in Colrain. I can see 3+ for you. 1-2" down here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 What if the spot is not at your house? he's going to report 3" no matter what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 he's going to report 3" no matter what happensHow much for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 LOL at all of the excitement for an inch or 2 of snow. ...Even enough for Kev to put up a sexist video (I can't believe women can behave that way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Banking on a couple hours of flakes around sunrise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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