djr5001 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 CTP has HBG in the mid 40s Wednesday now. By parents n the other hand in East Texas today are set for .2-.3" ice and .5" sleet. Last year they had more snow than me too, lol. with thick clouds and easterly flow at surface we wont touch 40s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashtown_Coop Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 81 is a mess right now around 6mm. Numerous accidents being hit out on the local Franklin county scanner. Congrats Eastern on your steamer. Partly cloudy here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 81 is a mess right now around 6mm. Numerous accidents being hit out on the local Franklin county scanner. Congrats Eastern on your steamer. Partly cloudy here Ya got about an inch. Major accident right on 81 in Greencastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 GFS finally folds like a cheap lawn chair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Arctic glacier building by end of first week of December. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 MY GOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 A little east baby!! Right on the line of a major ice storm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Here in State College, we managed to dodge just about every band and shower we could have and ended up with an almost bare ground. I guess that's not that surprising. Looking at the NAM (which is in general agreement with the other models) suggests 4-6 inches of snow before mixing by hour 60 and turning to rain thereafter, then back to snow at the end for another 3-5 inch thump on the backside by hour 84. Snow is pulling out at that time but still overhead, so maybe another inch or two after the end of the run. Of course, those are all specifics that will change from run to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 MY GOD Ya, but look at total precip. A lot of rain in the middle of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Dropped to 17 overnight, currently stuck in the low 20s. At one point this morning the wind chill dropped to 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternsnowman Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Ya, but look at total precip. A lot of rain in the middle of that. Snow, rain, snow= some icy roads for Thanksgiving, especially with cold air arriving! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Yea, this could be a disastrous travel day before Thanksgiving. It will probably be mainly rain, but if the track can scoot a little east it could be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Ya, but look at total precip. A lot of rain in the middle of that. IDC if there is rain, if it snows 9" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Accident here was really bad. CBS 21: Coroner called to the scene the multi-vehicle crash in Greencastle, Franklin County. Southbound lanes are now open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Tried to suck up leaves with the new Toro. Gave up when I couldn't a) catch them due to the wind and b ) couldn't feel my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 IDC if there is rain, if it snows 9" lol I do if it means there are only a few inches on the ground at the end. I dunno, I've never experienced a storm like this. I would guess that heavy rain, even at 34F, would destroy the snow that falls first and that only the second batch would end up sticking around. Does that sound right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I do if it means there are only a few inches on the ground at the end. I dunno, I've never experienced a storm like this. I would guess that heavy rain, even at 34F, would destroy the snow that falls first and that only the second batch would end up sticking around. Does that sound right? Not sure. Who knows how this will even set up . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 This does have 34ish and Heavy Rain written all over it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Not sure. Who knows how this will even set up . But that's my point... even though the Euro ensemble mean is giving me 7" of snow, I worry about how much of that will only last a few hours and get wiped out by rain. I can't get nearly as excited by a Euro ensemble plot showing 7" of snow when so many of those members have a heavy rain in the middle of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 But that's my point... even though the Euro ensemble mean is giving me 7" of snow, I worry about how much of that will only last a few hours and get wiped out by rain. I can't get nearly as excited by a Euro ensemble plot showing 7" of snow when so many of those members have a heavy rain in the middle of it. Snow is snow. Idc how much falls, just as long as it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I want FZRA in the worst way!! Any chance we get some?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 But that's my point... even though the Euro ensemble mean is giving me 7" of snow, I worry about how much of that will only last a few hours and get wiped out by rain. I can't get nearly as excited by a Euro ensemble plot showing 7" of snow when so many of those members have a heavy rain in the middle of it. If you get 7 inches of snow and temp only goes to 34 after with the rain you will lose some snow pack but at those temperatures you should still hold on to much of it. JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Here in State College, we managed to dodge just about every band and shower we could have and ended up with an almost bare ground. I guess that's not that surprising. Looking at the NAM (which is in general agreement with the other models) suggests 4-6 inches of snow before mixing by hour 60 and turning to rain thereafter, then back to snow at the end for another 3-5 inch thump on the backside by hour 84. Snow is pulling out at that time but still overhead, so maybe another inch or two after the end of the run. Of course, those are all specifics that will change from run to run. Last night was less the bands breaking up and more just plain dumb luck. The area down by Water Street (webcam on near US 22) has a fair amount of snow and they are east of the weather Ginzu and are more or less like UNV. But that's my point... even though the Euro ensemble mean is giving me 7" of snow, I worry about how much of that will only last a few hours and get wiped out by rain. I can't get nearly as excited by a Euro ensemble plot showing 7" of snow when so many of those members have a heavy rain in the middle of it. Depends on how much snow, how cold it is and how long the rain last. What could happen and I am a bit concerned about this, we get compacted snow with lots of puddles and then it freezes solid with snow on top. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 12z NAM and GFS look like they are pretty much in step with each other for keeping significant snows along and/or west of I-99 right now for the mid week storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I thought that track was what we we're supposed to root for!! But this looks warm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavy_wx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I do if it means there are only a few inches on the ground at the end. I dunno, I've never experienced a storm like this. I would guess that heavy rain, even at 34F, would destroy the snow that falls first and that only the second batch would end up sticking around. Does that sound right? Obviously it depends on the amount of snowfall before the rain, how much rain at what temperature and how much snowfall after the rain. If the ground gets too wet during the rain, that could also limit the accumulation of snow afterwards. How much snowfall that does occur after any changeover will probably depend on how deep and how consolidated the system becomes. A more elongated system like that forecast by the Euro will have less banding wrapping around. In the case of the 00z Euro, a few inches fall in UNV before a changeover to heavy rain occurs which would probably melt most of the snow accumulation. It does suggest some lake enhancement/upslope/deformation snow showers as the system departs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurel Highlands Wx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 My feeling is those who cash in on the lake effect will have a cold enough ground but also enough of a snow pack to hold temperatures down a few extra degrees. Also elevation will be key to everything. JST's reporting location is on a plateau at the airport about 5 to 6 miles east of town. Maybe the airport gets 6 inches but downtown may have more mixing problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Wow. NBC 25 UPDATE: One person dead from the multi-vehicle accident on I-81 N in PA, according to PA State Police. They say the eight-car pile-up, including two tractor trailers happened around 9:30 a.m. in Franklin County. They are also saying multiple people suffered from severe injuries. Police believe weather may have been a factor in the crash. Medical units and police are still on the scene. They expect the northbound lane to be closed for at least another six hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Here comes another streamer. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Yea, this could be a disastrous travel day before Thanksgiving. It will probably be mainly rain, but if the track can scoot a little east it could be interesting. Whoa there son, it's rained and snowed before and society has survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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