jm1220 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I do if it means there are only a few inches on the ground at the end. I dunno, I've never experienced a storm like this. I would guess that heavy rain, even at 34F, would destroy the snow that falls first and that only the second batch would end up sticking around. Does that sound right? Temps near freezing would mean that the snow just eats up the rain and doesn't really melt. At the end of the storm, the snow just freezes into concrete because of all the water content. When the temp gets to over the upper 30s, it starts melting faster. We deal with a lot of those in my area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurel Highlands Wx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Whoa there son, it's rained and snowed before and society has survived. Agree. This is PA after all not GA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Euro.. Icy to rain to snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Lol are you guys serious?? Have you seen Harrisburg drivers?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Lotsa ice for me on the Euro. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Lotsa ice for me on the Euro. Ugh. Haven't seen the Euro. Can you tell me what it looks like for Pittsburgh area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 This system looks like a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Lol have fun forecasting this one CTP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Haven't seen the Euro. Can you tell me what it looks like for Pittsburgh area? Snowy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 High 29 so far, back to 28. If it stands, new record high low set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Anyone know how Euro track stacks up vs. others. Also precip numbers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Am I crazy to suggest that the writing is on the wall? Mostly a big rainstorm except for far western/northwestern PA... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomixwx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I don't think anybody would be surprised by that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomixwx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Disappointment and surprise are entirely different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Yes, I'm beginning to feel the same way Mallow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Am I crazy to suggest that the writing is on the wall? Mostly a big rainstorm except for far western/northwestern PA... ? Oddly enough, NWS went colder for both of us for the storm. My forecast now only has the R word in it Tuesday night Monday Night A slight chance of snow. Cloudy, with a low around 25. Southwest wind around 6 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%. Tuesday Snow likely. Cloudy, with a high near 35. Southwest wind around 6 mph becoming calm in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation is 70%. Tuesday Night Rain and snow likely. Cloudy, with a low around 30. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New precipitation amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible. Wednesday A chance of snow. Cloudy, with a high near 34. Chance of precipitation is 50%. Wednesday Night A chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 18. Chance of precipitation is 30%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 WTH is DT smoking. Mostly snow to 81 IDTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Description for D lol, Precip may sh*t off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternsnowman Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 WTH is DT smoking. Mostly snow to 81 IDTS. Not a bad forecast, guess he's going by the euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahantango#1 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 WTH is DT smoking. Mostly snow to 81 IDTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Not a bad forecast, guess he's going by the euro Euro doesn't have all snow anywhere close to that. That would be like west of the Alleghenies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahantango#1 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 WTH is DT smoking. Mostly snow to 81 IDTS.I tgink Bastardi is thibkubg the same thibg according to his noon ypdate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternsnowman Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I do think areas north of Scranton with higher elevations will do well, but some rain or mixture will be there. Euro doesn't have all snow anywhere close to that. That would be like west of the Alleghenies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 How does it look out my way? Far enough west for mostly snow??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 How does it look out my way? Far enough west for mostly snow??? You stand a pretty good chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 How does it look out my way? Far enough west for mostly snow??? Whaddya know, FIG makes the cut. Euro for FIG: TUE 12Z 26-NOV -2.0 -5.7 1025 52 91 0.00 558 538 TUE 18Z 26-NOV 0.3 -3.7 1022 76 98 0.02 558 540 WED 00Z 27-NOV -1.3 0.2 1017 93 100 0.18 557 543 WED 06Z 27-NOV 0.2 1.6 1010 99 100 0.63 555 547 WED 12Z 27-NOV -0.2 -2.1 1005 94 99 0.28 550 546 WED 18Z 27-NOV -0.1 -7.5 1006 75 67 0.03 545 540 THU 00Z 28-NOV -4.6 -8.9 1007 86 11 0.00 537 531 THU 06Z 28-NOV -5.1 -12.0 1010 85 54 0.01 529 522 THU 12Z 28-NOV -8.2 -13.7 1019 82 31 0.01 535 520 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Made that puppy run to Martinsburg....The real deal out there!!! Few white out conditions in a few places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Whaddya know, FIG makes the cut. Euro for FIG: TUE 12Z 26-NOV -2.0 -5.7 1025 52 91 0.00 558 538 TUE 18Z 26-NOV 0.3 -3.7 1022 76 98 0.02 558 540 WED 00Z 27-NOV -1.3 0.2 1017 93 100 0.18 557 543 WED 06Z 27-NOV 0.2 1.6 1010 99 100 0.63 555 547 WED 12Z 27-NOV -0.2 -2.1 1005 94 99 0.28 550 546 WED 18Z 27-NOV -0.1 -7.5 1006 75 67 0.03 545 540 THU 00Z 28-NOV -4.6 -8.9 1007 86 11 0.00 537 531 THU 06Z 28-NOV -5.1 -12.0 1010 85 54 0.01 529 522 THU 12Z 28-NOV -8.2 -13.7 1019 82 31 0.01 535 520 Even that looks pretty bad to me. The 12-hr period with the heaviest precip is also the 12-hour period where 850s could be above 0C. Temporal resolution isn't good enough from those numbers to say whether that 0.28 is falling mostly when 850s are above 0C, or below. And based on the Wunderground maps, it's mostly before. The back-end thump that some of the Euro runs (and other models) have been hinting at is all but gone on the latest Euro... doesn't make it out of WV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Even that looks pretty bad to me. The 12-hr period with the heaviest precip is also the 12-hour period where 850s could be above 0C. Temporal resolution isn't good enough from those numbers to say whether that 0.28 is falling mostly when 850s are above 0C, or below. And based on the Wunderground maps, it's mostly before. The back-end thump that some of the Euro runs (and other models) have been hinting at is all but gone on the latest Euro... doesn't make it out of WV. Booo Rain on my parade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I would love to see this be a surprise heavy, wet snow storm for everyone and just make travel miserable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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