ORH_wxman Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 GFS does eventually get some light snow in eastern MA, but it looks like it would be only an inch or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 GFS does eventually get some light snow in eastern MA, but it looks like it would be only an inch or so. darn I really wanted to tell everyone they could be digging out of a foot of snow like Kevin suggested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 darn I really wanted to tell everyone they could be digging out of a foot of snow like Kevin suggested The only reason I looked at the 0z NAM for Wednesday is b/c Kevin told me on facebook that everyone is getting snows on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 GFS does eventually get some light snow in eastern MA, but it looks like it would be only an inch or so. It looks like the vortmax coming from the Lakes is a little weaker too, but I think the idea you posed is the main reason why the qpf was lighter and further east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 It looks like the vortmax coming from the Lakes is a little weaker too, but I think the idea you posed is the main reason why the qpf was lighter and further east. Yeah it looks to me that the lakes/midwest vortmax tugs whatever it can to the southwest and injects a little extra moisture....with the GFS being so pitiful with the stuff up in ME, it really doens't have much to work with, so we only end up with light snow over E MA for 6-12 hours. Obviously if we start seeing major differences in track and strength of the lakes s/w, then it could throw off solutions as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Will do you know of any other times that this has happened for NE? (What the nam is showing?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Will do you know of any other times that this has happened for NE? (What the nam is showing?) We've had setups like that occur about once every other winter or so...but not to that magnitude...usually more like advisory to low end warning snows. Occasionally you'll get one that goes bonkers and gives widespread 8"+, but they are much rarer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 OT but what a year so far for the midwest... they keep getting hammered everyweek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 We've had setups like that occur about once every other winter or so...but not to that magnitude...usually more like advisory to low end warning snows. Occasionally you'll get one that goes bonkers and gives widespread 8"+, but they are much rarer. Are any other models hinting at this? I mean the NAM shows a foot for maine, NH, and mass, but the GFS shows nothing and were 48 hours out lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 OT but what a year so far for the midwest... they keep getting hammered everyweek La Ninas can be real good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 La Ninas can be real good for them. Especially when you have such an active pattern in place, they can just get nailed consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Especially when you have such an active pattern in place, they can just get nailed consistently. Look at Cali getting nailed... especially southern California. They're cashing in and they're not even supposed to!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 As we thought with the GFS. See you all tomorrow AM for the Euro tiebreaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Ukie has light snow for Tuesday night over E NE, but its much closer to GFS than NAM...it doesn't have anything Wednesday (except maybe some snow showers or flurries) when the midwest s/w comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Look at Cali getting nailed... especially southern California. They're cashing in and they're not even supposed to!!! That amount of rain they are getting there is just insane...Matt (Southlandwx) has gotten over 5'' of rain I think since Thursday...with more to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 GGEM is definitely more like the NAM...just a toned down version of it. Probably more like a 3-5" type snow (mostly a BAF to PVD line and NE) versus a ton of spots breaking 8" or even 10" like the NAM shows. Maine does more impressive, but still same theme...they don't get 18" like the NAM shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 For Ryan... I can pretty much bet it wasn't the snow that made Lady Gaga cancel her show in Paris, France. She cancels shows left and right all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 GGEM is definitely more like the NAM...just a toned down version of it. Probably more like a 3-5" type snow (mostly a BAF to PVD line and NE) versus a ton of spots breaking 8" or even 10" like the NAM shows. Maine does more impressive, but still same theme...they don't get 18" like the NAM shows. Did not expect nam qpf for the next event, But its good to see its not out on an island by itself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 144hr black and whites on the ggem look decent, no? 992mb low near the BM...waiting on color qpf maps edit: slightly south of the BM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 The GGEM only bit once on a hit from this present non-storm and it was the same run where the ECM went crazy. So I find it encouraging if it has a storm this time 6 days out.... And yes looks a lot like the NAM with the inverted trough....less precip obviously. . n 144hr black and whites on the ggem look decent, no? 992mb low near the BM...waiting on color qpf maps edit: slightly south of the BM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 It's not out on this site yet, but you can see what it does at 168 hours + here -> GGEM The GGEM only bit once on a hit from this present non-storm and it was the same run where the ECM went crazy. So I find it encouraging if it has a storm this time 6 days out.... And yes looks a lot like the NAM with the inverted trough....less precip obviously. . n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 The GGEM only bit once on a hit from this present non-storm and it was the same run where the ECM went crazy. So I find it encouraging if it has a storm this time 6 days out.... And yes looks a lot like the NAM with the inverted trough....less precip obviously. . n Twice....it retrograded and still managed to give me like 20" after it's most robust soloution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 It's not out on this site yet, but you can see what it does at 168 hours + here -> GGEM thats last nights run...att 144hr on canada's site it has snow pushing into NYC and moving northeast. in between the 12z and 0z runs of the gfs i'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Euro not throwing us a bone on the mid week event....just some light snow for eastern areas...maybe an inch if lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Euro looks a little worse than 12z. 0.10" line runs along I93 in S NH down to the RI/CT border. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 The euro still has that s/w rotating through the Gulf of Maine, but the vortmax coming from the MIdwest is weaker and flatter. It basically brushes eastern mass with less than 0.1" qpf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Euro not throwing us a bone on the mid week event....just some light snow for eastern areas...maybe an inch if lucky. Euro looks a little worse than 12z. 0.10" line runs along I93 in S NH down to the RI/CT border. Oh well. The euro still has that s/w rotating through the Gulf of Maine, but the vortmax coming from the MIdwest is weaker and flatter. It basically brushes eastern mass with less than 0.1" qpf. How's mid week look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 The euro still has that s/w rotating through the Gulf of Maine, but the vortmax coming from the MIdwest is weaker and flatter. It basically brushes eastern mass with less than 0.1" qpf. It for some reason breaks the lakes energy in half as it tries to traverse east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 It for some reason breaks the lakes energy in half as it tries to traverse east. Because it would snow here otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 It for some reason breaks the lakes energy in half as it tries to traverse east. Yeah I don't get. I thought it would look similar to 12z at first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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