free_man Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 were even 6 miles from playful light snow. doesn't do that around here anymore either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsniss Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Yeah the 4 flakes I saw 20 minutes ago didn't replicate. Time for bed. Early clinic with very green students downtown. Good night all... I was hoping for at least a fun nowcast, got some good laughs instead. On to the weekend storm... KBOS 7.0" since Jul 1 not including what fell today. Snowfall summary for today so far: Statement as of 11:18 PM EST on January 21, 2013 The following are unofficial observations taken during the past 24 hours for the storm that has been affecting our region. Appreciation is extended to Highway departments... cooperative observers... Skywarn spotters and media for these reports. This summary is also available on our home Page at weather.Gov/Boston ********************storm total snowfall******************** Location storm total time/date comments snowfall of /inches/ measurement Connecticut ... Tolland County... Tolland 1.1 913 PM 1/21 ham radio Coventry 1.0 950 PM 1/21 general public Massachusetts ... Barnstable County... Marstons Mills 2.0 1012 PM 1/21 ham radio Sandwich 1.6 958 PM 1/21 NWS employee ... Bristol County... New Bedford 2.8 1013 PM 1/21 ham radio Somerset 2.8 1036 PM 1/21 ham radio Acushnet 2.0 1032 PM 1/21 ham radio Taunton 1.0 754 PM 1/21 ham radio Fairhaven 0.8 800 PM 1/21 ham radio South Dartmouth 0.5 809 PM 1/21 ham radio ... Dukes County... Edgartown 2.5 848 PM 1/21 ham radio ... Middlesex County... Framingham 0.6 1019 PM 1/21 ham radio ... Worcester County... Worcester 1.0 952 PM 1/21 ham radio Shrewsbury 0.7 1058 PM 1/21 public Rhode Island ... Bristol County... Warren 2.2 858 PM 1/21 ham radio Bristol 2.0 910 PM 1/21 ham radio ... Kent County... West Greenwich 1.3 849 PM 1/21 ham radio ... Newport County... Newport 4.1 1039 PM 1/21 ham radio Tiverton 1.2 810 PM 1/21 ham radio ... Providence County... Pawtucket 2.0 842 PM 1/21 ham radio North Scituate 1.5 935 PM 1/21 law enforcement North Foster 1.0 1052 PM 1/21 coop observer Greenville 1.0 901 PM 1/21 general public ... Washington County... Wakefield 5.0 1114 PM 1/21 ham radio South Kingstown 4.4 1006 PM 1/21 trained spotter westerly 4.0 1024 PM 1/21 spotter Charlestown 2.8 956 PM 1/21 trained spotter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 expanding nicely at least for now over the outer cape. nice echos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 norlun going boom i think in maine Thats what i have been saying, Needed some patience, It looks to be devloping on radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboMaine Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Emerging from lurker mode......standing outside my office with a package of weenie rolls, waving it toward the ocean as bait.....Wind doing a def shift and, for lack of a better term, it smells like snow.......@ South Portland fearing its about to set up about ten miles to my south.....back to lurker mode unless I jackpot before I go home in three hours.....robomaine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 The next few hours I would think we should see some good banding setting up, and likely more than just one band as has been suggested by some guidance. Very strong frotogenesis is just offshore and some decent 700-500 frontogenesis over the region. The RAP does continue to suggest that the inverted trough will continue to be a factor, for at least the Cape region but more moisture could be thrown back into NE MA as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Flurries here on the Outer Cape, not snowing too good underneath the heavier echoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbutts Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 snowing lightly again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWMan Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I don't doubt that things are getting organized, or that there will be good banding. The problem is that it may be too little, too late unless you're a fish. I suspect that GYX is maintaining headlines in the interest of continuity, as there's still a slight chance that someone right at the coast gets into a very narrow band and they understandably don't want to be seen as flip-flopping. At this point I won't be surprised to wake up to nada here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarveyLeonardFan Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Didn't measure but I had 3 plus inches...the landscape looks great..snow is caked to all the trees...but my favorite part about snow is seeing the plowed and shoveled snow turn into piles and this snow was so light the piles are unimpressive because the snow didn't start accumulating to the pavement until 90 minutes after it had begun snowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Cape starting to crank it looks like on radar. Tim Kelley posting about 1"/hour on the cape in Dennis with perfect dendrites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 ACK has almost double ORH's snow for JAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 latest 0z wrf btv caves and says sorry. not much. has . 50 jackpot NE of wells, maine along inland 100 yards of shore line. lol. with . 25-.50 spot several miles around the perimiter of that area. alligns norlun more NNW-SSE just SSE of well, maine . gives NNE some snow showers most of nite (NH/MAINE) foothills like .1 worth. doesn't give squat to NE mass/ bos /maybe .05 on cape. lol . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 biddleford to kennebunghole is starting to get into some developing norlun action as this gets going around 7z . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 People just don't get it. Check out the comments on 7news FB when they showed the updated snowmap. 90 comments of complaining that meteorologists are a joke and suck at their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonWX Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 People just don't get it. Check out the comments on 7news FB when they showed the updated snowmap. 90 comments of complaining that meteorologists are a joke and suck at their job. Well, unfortunately, people like Bouchard aren't paid 300K a year in a major market to be wrong, especially by 6 inches. It causes a lot of disruptions for everyone from schools to DOT crews. This is the real world we're talking about here. It is a hard science, but that doesn't really cut it. THere were embarrassingly high totals forecasted by OCM's. The public does, and should, be able to take them seriously. And they should have a right to be angry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 People just don't get it. Check out the comments on 7news FB when they showed the updated snowmap. 90 comments of complaining that meteorologists are a joke and suck at their job. in all honestly half of those people think they are "showing off" by being ignorant, i.e half are acting like morons. (at least). Now barry burbank kept saying 90% of us wouldn't see much (at noon forecast) and that some "could" get alot. barry is a smart man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Well, unfortunately, people like Bouchard aren't paid 300K a year in a major market to be wrong, especially by 6 inches. It causes a lot of disruptions for everyone from schools to DOT crews. This is the real world we're talking about here. Well first off he wasn't off by 6", he had 4-7 for BOS so he was off 4" or 5". And second, that is true, but meteorology isnt a perfect science and busts have happened multiple a year from the beginning of forecasting. It's one thing to say it caused havoc, another to call it "a joke" and to call the wx team there "complete idiots". Completely uncalled for and ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 in all honestly half of those people think they are "showing off" by being ignorant, i.e half are acting like morons. (at least). Now barry burbank kept saying 90% of us wouldn't see much (at noon forecast) and that some "could" get alot. barry is a smart man. Thank you. People are extremely ignorant. Another problem is the public hypes and contributes to the issue. WBZ posts a tweet about most areas getting an inch or 2 and it gets 1 retweet. WBZ posts a tweet about some areas getting 10-12 and it gets 15 retweets. Public sees what they want to see. In the WWA they mentioned heavy snow and people latched on it being a heavy snow event. There a lot of issues but some are impossible to fix with warnings and forecasts...the public sees what they want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonWX Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Well first off he wasn't off by 6", he had 4-7 for BOS so he was off 4" or 5". And second, that is true, but meteorology isnt a perfect science and busts have happened multiple a year from the beginning of forecasting. It's one thing to say it caused havoc, another to call it "a joke" and to call the wx team there "complete idiots". Completely uncalled for and ridiculous. Yeah that's true. But these guys are paid big big money in a market like Boston. This is how 99% of the people watching the broadcasts view it. They haven't taken a Dynamic Meterology course, and they can't do a LaPlace transform, and they can't perform a Eulerian derivation of an air parcel. Most can't. It is a hard science, but in reality, people just want an accurate forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Yeah that's true. But these guys are paid big big money in a market like Boston. This is how 99% of the people watching the broadcasts view it. They haven't taken a Dynamic Meterology course, and they can't do a LaPlace transform, and they can't perform a Eulerian derivation of an air parcel. Most can't. It is a hard science, but in reality, people just want an accurate forecast. i agree that pete forecasting that much was "not smart" i mean look at what the mets on here had. did any say that much for bos? Nope. in norlun's you look at meso's. meso weren't screaming boston much at all. i think some intelligent criticism of pete is warranted but most of the morons on fb don't know what CAA or CAD mean and their just looking to act like m***holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Yeah that's true. But these guys are paid big big money in a market like Boston. This is how 99% of the people watching the broadcasts view it. They haven't taken a Dynamic Meterology course, and they can't do a LaPlace transform, and they can't perform a Eulerian derivation of an air parcel. Most can't. It is a hard science, but in reality, people just want an accurate forecast. It's true, and I get that side of the argument. But, that said, they don't perform miracles. I love Pete's Bouchards twitter headline. "A better forecast? Child, please. No one's got God on Line 1." That sums it up right there. He gets paid the big bucks, but that doesn't mean he has access to research from the future to give out better forecasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Snowing here again...puffy dendrites from this cluster of snow showers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Snowing here again...puffy dendrites from this cluster of snow showers. stay the course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonWX Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 It's true, and I get that side of the argument. But, that said, they don't perform miracles. I love Pete's Bouchards twitter headline. "A better forecast? Child, please. No one's got God on Line 1." That sums it up right there. He gets paid the big bucks, but that doesn't mean he has access to research from the future to give out better forecasts. Yeah, people get swept up in the media hype too, and that causes some of the angst. Christ, TWC called this a "deadly winter storm".... (Nevermind the fact that they named it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 People just don't get it. Check out the comments on 7news FB when they showed the updated snowmap. 90 comments of complaining that meteorologists are a joke and suck at their job. Frustrated weenies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Yeah, people get swept up in the media hype too, and that causes some of the angst. Christ, TWC called this a "deadly winter storm".... (Nevermind the fact that they named it!) I can't believe they named it. Complete joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cja1987 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Well, unfortunately, people like Bouchard aren't paid 300K a year in a major market to be wrong, especially by 6 inches. It causes a lot of disruptions for everyone from schools to DOT crews. This is the real world we're talking about here. It is a hard science, but that doesn't really cut it. THere were embarrassingly high totals forecasted by OCM's. The public does, and should, be able to take them seriously. And they should have a right to be angry :weenie: Where was your forecast? Grace us with your wisdom? Whats your source for the $300K, I doubt ANYONE in the Boston market is making that outside of maybe Harvey Leonard. You are stuck in the 70's/80's/90's with those kind of pay figures. You sound like you are just disgruntled that your backyard failed yet again. Weenie-ism at its finest, Yeah that's true. But these guys are paid big big money in a market like Boston. This is how 99% of the people watching the broadcasts view it. They haven't taken a Dynamic Meterology course, and they can't do a LaPlace transform, and they can't perform a Eulerian derivation of an air parcel. Most can't. It is a hard science, but in reality, people just want an accurate forecast. Yes, if they are a degreed Met, they damn well have. Either way, I don't see your math references as relevant here. A basic understanding of what goes into dynamics is necessary but beyond that, it has nothing to do with forecasting. Understand QG and the terms in the 2 big equations and you have alot of what you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonWX Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 :weenie: Where was your forecast? Grace us with your wisdom? Whats your source for the $300K, I doubt ANYONE in the Boston market is making that outside of maybe Harvey Leonard. You are stuck in the 70's/80's/90's with those kind of pay figures. Yes, if they are a degreed Met, they damn well have. Either way, I don't see your math references as relevant here. A basic understanding of what goes into dynamics is necessary but beyond that, it has nothing to do with forecasting. Understand QG and the terms in the 2 big equations and you have alot of what you need. I'm not paid to deliver a forecast on TV (thank god...). I realize its a tough position. He's very easily in that pay bracket considering he's chief meteorologist in a top 5 or 6 market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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