jburns Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 BRICK WINS!!!!! http://gifsound.com/...y0nKr0&start=34 You can pretty much count on it being ignored by the rest of the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 BRICK WINS!!!!! http://gifsound.com/...y0nKr0&start=34 You can pretty much count on it being ignored by the rest of the board. In fact I'll make a forecast. This will be the last WOTY contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxKnurd Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 You can pretty much count on it being ignored by the rest of the board. In fact I'll make a forecast. This will be the last WOTY contest. Better hurry up and start a thread on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Congrats Brick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASpear Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Love the vid, congrads to Brick, use to be a forum called"winnietown" I think it was started by DT after numerous bans from EasternWX. I think Brick should be King of this so called virtual place for the year.....sorta like Miss America so called reign over us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isopycnic Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Love the vid, congrads to Brick, use to be a forum called"winnietown" I think it was started by DT after numerous bans from EasternWX. I think Brick should be King of this so called virtual place for the year.....sorta like Miss America so called reign over us weenietown --> Zwyts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrierCreekWx Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Guys I apologize for posting that "stern" lecture-sounding statement in the forecast thread. I just feel like anyone who isn't agreeing with the latest model is stereotyped as "wishcasting" or being "overly optimistic". What separates a medium like this from a paid site or from a NWS AFD is that professional meteorologist can come on here and talk about the potential a pattern has without having to restrain themselves, worry about being politically correct from a forecasting viewpoint, or worry if the "public" is going to take what they say and misconstrue it. I've been a visitor of this group since the old Eastern US Wx days, although I waited to become a member until I became a meteorologist. What has always kept me coming back here was that open-ended discussion with professional meteorologist who were willing to share the details of why they liked/disliked a pattern. The contributions of the likes of Foothills, RaleighWx, HickoryWx, and so many others are why I'm here today. I know it's frustrating when nothing is working out and we're snow-starved, but it's important to encourage meteorologists to continue to share there honest opinions about a pattern, because that's what is so unique about this medium and keeps good discussions going! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Hey, we're going to get some cold rain Thursday. Awesome. But at least there's something else to look at for Friday night and Saturday, even though that will probably be cold rain, too. Then it's going to warm up. What a fantastic winter. All those folks that said this pattern was going to be great are incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack83 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Well said briercreek. The discussion is what makes this a great place to read and learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkync Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Hey, we're going to get some cold rain Thursday. Awesome. But at least there's something else to look at for Friday night and Saturday, even though that will probably be cold rain, too. Then it's going to warm up. What a fantastic winter. All those folks that said this pattern was going to be great are incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkync Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 @ a boy!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Guys I apologize for posting that "stern" lecture-sounding statement in the forecast thread. I just feel like anyone who isn't agreeing with the latest model is stereotyped as "wishcasting" or being "overly optimistic". What separates a medium like this from a paid site or from a NWS AFD is that professional meteorologist can come on here and talk about the potential a pattern has without having to restrain themselves, worry about being politically correct from a forecasting viewpoint, or worry if the "public" is going to take what they say and misconstrue it. I've been a visitor of this group since the old Eastern US Wx days, although I waited to become a member until I became a meteorologist. What has always kept me coming back here was that open-ended discussion with professional meteorologist who were willing to share the details of why they liked/disliked a pattern. The contributions of the likes of Foothills, RaleighWx, HickoryWx, and so many others are why I'm here today. I know it's frustrating when nothing is working out and we're snow-starved, but it's important to encourage meteorologists to continue to share there honest opinions about a pattern, because that's what is so unique about this medium and keeps good discussions going! Great post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimen Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 How 'bout those 'skins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculus1 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Guys I apologize for posting that "stern" lecture-sounding statement in the forecast thread. I just feel like anyone who isn't agreeing with the latest model is stereotyped as "wishcasting" or being "overly optimistic". What separates a medium like this from a paid site or from a NWS AFD is that professional meteorologist can come on here and talk about the potential a pattern has without having to restrain themselves, worry about being politically correct from a forecasting viewpoint, or worry if the "public" is going to take what they say and misconstrue it. I've been a visitor of this group since the old Eastern US Wx days, although I waited to become a member until I became a meteorologist. What has always kept me coming back here was that open-ended discussion with professional meteorologist who were willing to share the details of why they liked/disliked a pattern. The contributions of the likes of Foothills, RaleighWx, HickoryWx, and so many others are why I'm here today. I know it's frustrating when nothing is working out and we're snow-starved, but it's important to encourage meteorologists to continue to share there honest opinions about a pattern, because that's what is so unique about this medium and keeps good discussions going! Well said! Please continue to call it as you see it and talk about possibilities. Things don't always come together for us winter weather-lovers in the SE (actually, they rarely do!), which is why I like to hear about what might happen to make it come to pass. I don't care whether others say it can't happen. I like to hear all sides voiced with respect and without finality. Too often people cast judgement on something with 100% finality; i.e, "It's not going to snow" OR "It will definitely snow." Nobody can truly predict things three or four days in advance, so I enjoy discussing the what ifs of the whether, from both sides. Keep up the good work, sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Guys I apologize for posting that "stern" lecture-sounding statement in the forecast thread. I just feel like anyone who isn't agreeing with the latest model is stereotyped as "wishcasting" or being "overly optimistic". What separates a medium like this from a paid site or from a NWS AFD is that professional meteorologist can come on here and talk about the potential a pattern has without having to restrain themselves, worry about being politically correct from a forecasting viewpoint, or worry if the "public" is going to take what they say and misconstrue it. I've been a visitor of this group since the old Eastern US Wx days, although I waited to become a member until I became a meteorologist. What has always kept me coming back here was that open-ended discussion with professional meteorologist who were willing to share the details of why they liked/disliked a pattern. The contributions of the likes of Foothills, RaleighWx, HickoryWx, and so many others are why I'm here today. I know it's frustrating when nothing is working out and we're snow-starved, but it's important to encourage meteorologists to continue to share there honest opinions about a pattern, because that's what is so unique about this medium and keeps good discussions going! I'm not sure why people are so quick to criticize someone when the forecast they were hoping for doesn't pan out. It's almost as if some feel like the weather owes them a snowstorm and when it doesn't happen, then the weather is out to get them, and the forecasters who mentioned the possibility of a snowstorm are out to get them too. Good weather forecasting is about going with the odds...not going all in on snake eyes. The house is that most systems in the SE are rain. Trying to accurately forecast snow here, especially from several days out, is nearly an exercise in futility and strongly going against the house. Not to say it shouldn't be attempted, because it should. And sometimes the odds are better than others. But all it takes is one little tiny thing to screw it all up, and somehow, THAT is the forecaster's fault. That is a moronic viewpoint. Some people read comments on a weather board and get offended if someone "hypes" a storm that didn't pan out. It is more than appropriate on a weather board to discuss possibilities and make forecasts, as long as they're based on good reasoning. This isn't an official forecasting outlet. Nobody should be planning their lives around speculation from a weather board. If they do, then it's nobody's fault but their own when the are let down by an unofficial prognostication. The whole availability of data and information seems to have created this false concept that complex weather systems can be resolved days in advance. And it seems to lead to a lot of the general lashing out that goes on. I think many of us, myself included, need to reset our expectations that just because we have all of this fresh model data all day long, that doesn't mean that we're anywhere close to being able to solve the weather puzzle. It's fun to try...or it should be fun...but there are still no complete answers. The whole entire purpose of this place and others like it is not to serve as an official weather service. It's to foster discussion, serve as a forum for speculation and analysis of possibilities over the near and long terms. And the notion that an "event" shouldn't be discussed until it's outcome is fully visible, i.e. 3 days out or closer, is foolish and completely wrong. This is where a bunch of people who love weather should be able to come and freely discuss weather without fear of being condemned for doing so, even when their analysis turns out to be wrong. It's a place that folks should be able to talk about long term patterns and speculate on storm threats without having to be made to feel bad for it. Everybody is going to be wrong from time to time, and most long term stuff that you hope for isn't going to work out. If that makes you feel bad as a consumer of this weather forum resource, then maybe it's time to quit complaining about forecasters and weather always letting you down and instead think about picking up another hobby...one that's completely within your control. After all, weather, in all of it's ups and downs should be fun for those that are here...not a source of grief and despair, anger and malcontent. It's just not that important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalicwx366 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Where are you all getting these ideas of us saying negative comments? Who has a fear of being condemned? The teleconnections and other factors weren't even favorable for a snow event. Then this event keeps being compared to 12/26/10 for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowNiner Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Guys I apologize for posting that "stern" lecture-sounding statement in the forecast thread. I just feel like anyone who isn't agreeing with the latest model is stereotyped as "wishcasting" or being "overly optimistic". What separates a medium like this from a paid site or from a NWS AFD is that professional meteorologist can come on here and talk about the potential a pattern has without having to restrain themselves, worry about being politically correct from a forecasting viewpoint, or worry if the "public" is going to take what they say and misconstrue it. I've been a visitor of this group since the old Eastern US Wx days, although I waited to become a member until I became a meteorologist. What has always kept me coming back here was that open-ended discussion with professional meteorologist who were willing to share the details of why they liked/disliked a pattern. The contributions of the likes of Foothills, RaleighWx, HickoryWx, and so many others are why I'm here today. I know it's frustrating when nothing is working out and we're snow-starved, but it's important to encourage meteorologists to continue to share there honest opinions about a pattern, because that's what is so unique about this medium and keeps good discussions going! Please keep doing what you're doing. My favorite part of this Board is coming in and reading analysis on the pattern and why it "could" produce winter weather. I learn alot and it gets the snow goose in me going. Of course I get disappointed when the models don't follow suit, but it's great to get that analysis on the pattern and to know what is in the works. It's like reading spoilers for your favorite TV show...getting ahead of the game. Please continue to dig in to the pattern, I appreciate all the mets analysis on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 The cold keeps getting pushed back etc. The models failed on a severe threat imby recently although the GFS was the first to say "not so fast, it wont be too bad". I'll believe the GFS on a non phase event, and I'll believe the Euro on warm weather here soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 From the January thread. Latest cfsv2 really looks nice for jan. 20 onward...patience folks winters coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimen Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Where are you all getting these ideas of us saying negative comments? Who has a fear of being condemned? The teleconnections and other factors weren't even favorable for a snow event. Then this event keeps being compared to 12/26/10 for some reason. Right, we keep being told to be optimistic, based on a fairly recent anomalous event. The odds of a repeat are extremely low. Personally, I see snide comments in both directions on this board, and I think it is a symptom of our culture, more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Where are you all getting these ideas of us saying negative comments? Who has a fear of being condemned? The teleconnections and other factors weren't even favorable for a snow event. Then this event keeps being compared to 12/26/10 for some reason. I haven't done that but, if I did, for me it would be a valid comparison. I didn't get squat in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalicwx366 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 From the January thread, I was about to comment on the same thing. Where have we heard this before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Right, we keep being told to be optimistic, based on a fairly recent anomalous event. The odds of a repeat are extremely low. Personally, I see snide comments in both directions on this board, and I think it is a symptom of our culture, more than anything. This is the Southeast. We don't have culture. We have "ways". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculus1 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 ... The whole availability of data and information seems to have created this false concept that complex weather systems can be resolved days in advance. And it seems to lead to a lot of the general lashing out that goes on. I think many of us, myself included, need to reset our expectations that just because we have all of this fresh model data all day long, that doesn't mean that we're anywhere close to being able to solve the weather puzzle. It's fun to try...or it should be fun...but there are still no complete answers. The whole entire purpose of this place and others like it is not to serve as an official weather service. It's to foster discussion, serve as a forum for speculation and analysis of possibilities over the near and long terms. And the notion that an "event" shouldn't be discussed until it's outcome is fully visible, i.e. 3 days out or closer, is foolish and completely wrong. This is where a bunch of people who love weather should be able to come and freely discuss weather without fear of being condemned for doing so, even when their analysis turns out to be wrong. It's a place that folks should be able to talk about long term patterns and speculate on storm threats without having to be made to feel bad for it. Everybody is going to be wrong from time to time, and most long term stuff that you hope for isn't going to work out. If that makes you feel bad as a consumer of this weather forum resource, then maybe it's time to quit complaining about forecasters and weather always letting you down and instead think about picking up another hobby...one that's completely within your control. After all, weather, in all of it's ups and downs should be fun for those that are here...not a source of grief and despair, anger and malcontent. It's just not that important. Cold rain brings some cold hard facts to the table. Honestly, I truly appreciate your thoughtful responses and posts. A lot of opinions about people on an internet board are formed via how they communicate. Some people seem to have very little sense of how their posts sound or come across (or they simply don't care). Some of it has to do with grammar, punctuation, spelling, etc. but not all. Tone is definitely important. Some people on this board I hold in pretty high esteem just for the way they conduct themselves on this board. Whatever happened to good ol' fashioned, Southern hospitality and courtesy? I don't think it's dead, but let's try not to defy this stereotype either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Guys I apologize for posting that "stern" lecture-sounding statement in the forecast thread. I just feel like anyone who isn't agreeing with the latest model is stereotyped as "wishcasting" or being "overly optimistic". What separates a medium like this from a paid site or from a NWS AFD is that professional meteorologist can come on here and talk about the potential a pattern has without having to restrain themselves, worry about being politically correct from a forecasting viewpoint, or worry if the "public" is going to take what they say and misconstrue it. I've been a visitor of this group since the old Eastern US Wx days, although I waited to become a member until I became a meteorologist. What has always kept me coming back here was that open-ended discussion with professional meteorologist who were willing to share the details of why they liked/disliked a pattern. The contributions of the likes of Foothills, RaleighWx, HickoryWx, and so many others are why I'm here today. I know it's frustrating when nothing is working out and we're snow-starved, but it's important to encourage meteorologists to continue to share there honest opinions about a pattern, because that's what is so unique about this medium and keeps good discussions going! Please take this as constructive criticism. I was a school administrator and sometimes I have flashbacks. You're a met. Your credentials speak for themselves, as do your knowledgeable posts. What's causing you trouble here is your expectations of others. You can not control anything except yourself. I realize you know this, but you seem to be having a bit of trouble putting it into practice. You have been actively posting for a few weeks now. In that short time you have quit the board, deleted all your posts, returned, apologized and in the post above issued another apology. All this was caused by what others said and none of it was necessary or productive. Relax. Just be you and allow others to be whatever they are. Don't internalize what you read on a weather board. You'll enjoy life a lot more, both on and off the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Please take this as constructive criticism. I was a school administrator and sometimes I have flashbacks. You're a met. Your credentials speak for themselves, as do your knowledgeable posts. What's causing you trouble here is your expectations of others. You can not control anything except yourself. I realize you know this, but you seem to be having a bit of trouble putting it into practice. You have been actively posting for a few weeks now. In that short time you have quit the board, deleted all your posts, returned, apologized and in the post above issued another apology. All this was caused by what others said and none of it was necessary or productive. Relax. Just be you and allow others to be whatever they are. Don't internalize what you read on a weather board. You'll enjoy life a lot more, both on and off the board. Sound advice for interactions with everyone when it comes to life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Sound advice for interactions with everyone when it comes to life. I've always been this smart. The cool thing is, now that I am as old as dirt, people actually take me seriously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Guys I apologize for posting that "stern" lecture-sounding statement in the forecast thread. I just feel like anyone who isn't agreeing with the latest model is stereotyped as "wishcasting" or being "overly optimistic". What separates a medium like this from a paid site or from a NWS AFD is that professional meteorologist can come on here and talk about the potential a pattern has without having to restrain themselves, worry about being politically correct from a forecasting viewpoint, or worry if the "public" is going to take what they say and misconstrue it. I've been a visitor of this group since the old Eastern US Wx days, although I waited to become a member until I became a meteorologist. What has always kept me coming back here was that open-ended discussion with professional meteorologist who were willing to share the details of why they liked/disliked a pattern. The contributions of the likes of Foothills, RaleighWx, HickoryWx, and so many others are why I'm here today. I know it's frustrating when nothing is working out and we're snow-starved, but it's important to encourage meteorologists to continue to share there honest opinions about a pattern, because that's what is so unique about this medium and keeps good discussions going! Nothing wrong with speaking your mind like you did. Say what you gotta say and roll with it. No reason to dance around things. If it makes people mad, they will get glad again. Your input is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 That's why you wait till you get two- three days from the event to talk bout it otherwise it does nothing but get everyone excited over nothing I strongly disagree with this. I believe people have the ability (and should exercise that ability) to contain their excitement and realize that they live in a place where it's usually not going to snow, while simultaneously observing or participating in a discussion of the possibility of a winter event from a distance of more than 72 hours. Both excitement and disappointment are part of the love of weather. And they can and should coexist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I strongly disagree with this. I believe people have the ability (and should exercise that ability) to contain their excitement and realize that they live in a place where it's usually not going to snow, while simultaneously observing or participating in a discussion of the possibility of a winter event from a distance of more than 72 hours. Both excitement and disappointment are part of the love of weather. And they can and should coexist. Picture this. A child waits patiently for weeks for Christmas Eve to arrive and for Santa to bring all the presents. At midnight on Christmas Eve a window breaks, the tooth fairy flys in and hits the kid in the mouth knocking out a tooth. The tooth fairy picks up the tooth drops a quarter and leaves. That is pretty much what waiting for snow in our area is like. Except we often don't even get the quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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