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11/7 - 11/8 Nor'easter Obs


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Snowfall has been really leaving its mark since 2010 with with NYC scoring numerous high monthly snowfall rankings.

The only months that we have been slacking are March through May.happy.png

CENTRAL PARK - 1869 to Present

(through March 09)

SNOWIEST MONTHS

October

2.9 2011

0.8 1925

0.5 1952

0.5 1876

November

19.0 1898

14.0 1882

12.8 1938

6.3 1892

5.0 1896

4.7 1989&2012

3.7 1945

3.5 1872

3.2 1967 & 1936

2.9 1995

December

29.6 1947

27.0 1872

25.3 1948

22.5 1883

21.6 1904

20.1 2010

19.8 2003

18.6 1960

15.8 1959

15.6 1945

14.9 1933

January

36.0 2011

27.4 1925

26.1 1996

24.5 1923

23.6 1935

20.5 1877

20.3 1978

18.4 1905

17.5 1882

17.3 2004 & 1879

16.7 1961

16.0 1893

February

36.9 2010

27.9 1934

26.9 2006

26.4 1994

26.3 1926

26.1 2003

25.3 1920 & 1899

23.6 1967

23.0 1978

21.8 1907

21.5 1983

March

30.5 1896

25.5 1916

22.3 1888

21.5 1914

21.1 1956

19.2 1941

18.5 1960

17.4 1967

17.0 1890

15.9 1958

April

13.5 1875

10.2 1915

9.6 1982

8.5 1924

6.5 1944 & 1917

6.4 1938

5.8 1907

5.0 1887

4.2 1956

4.0 2003

May

Trace 1977 & 1946

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I was thinking to myself the other day that the only records/top ten snowfall months we haven't touched since 2010 were NOvember and March. Snowiest JAnuary, February, and October on record within two years are amazing. We didn't get the snowiest December or November(yet ?) but the fact that if you were to look at the top ten snowiest months and still see 2010/2011 is mind-blowing. People 100 years from now are gonna look

back at this stretch of weather that we have been experiencing and just be amazed. March and April are the only ones left now, May would just be

Unbelievable.

Finished here with between 5 and 6 inches, it's melting rapidly so enjoy it.

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Snowfall has been really leaving its mark since 2010 with with NYC scoring numerous high monthly snowfall rankings.

The only months that we have been slacking are March through May.happy.png

CENTRAL PARK - 1869 to Present

(through March 09)

SNOWIEST MONTHS

October

2.9 2011

0.8 1925

0.5 1952

0.5 1876

November

19.0 1898

14.0 1882

12.8 1938

6.3 1892

5.0 1896

4.7 1989&2012

3.7 1945

3.5 1872

3.2 1967 & 1936

2.9 1995

December

29.6 1947

27.0 1872

25.3 1948

22.5 1883

21.6 1904

20.1 2010

19.8 2003

18.6 1960

15.8 1959

15.6 1945

14.9 1933

January

36.0 2011

27.4 1925

26.1 1996

24.5 1923

23.6 1935

20.5 1877

20.3 1978

18.4 1905

17.5 1882

17.3 2004 & 1879

16.7 1961

16.0 1893

February

36.9 2010

27.9 1934

26.9 2006

26.4 1994

26.3 1926

26.1 2003

25.3 1920 & 1899

23.6 1967

23.0 1978

21.8 1907

21.5 1983

March

30.5 1896

25.5 1916

22.3 1888

21.5 1914

21.1 1956

19.2 1941

18.5 1960

17.4 1967

17.0 1890

15.9 1958

April

13.5 1875

10.2 1915

9.6 1982

8.5 1924

6.5 1944 & 1917

6.4 1938

5.8 1907

5.0 1887

4.2 1956

4.0 2003

May

Trace 1977 & 1946

the 1950's did well in March...not so for 2010-2012...This year?...

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Are they going to do anything about the LGA NUMBERS?

Doesn't look like it. They came out with a 12:00pm PNS and the ludicrous 1.1" is still there.

10 years from now, the records will show 1.1" for LGA when the reality was 4"-8" areawide in Queens.

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Doesn't look like it. They came out with a 12:00pm PNS and the ludicrous 1.1" is still there.

10 years from now, the records will show 1.1" for LGA when the reality was 4"-8" areawide in Queens.

LGA never reported anything but light snow during the storm!!!! LGA was under the best banding the entire time. Snow was blinding and easily heavy for at least 3 hours.

Light snow under this band!!!

E6AD5C3C-C4D9-4DDD-BC92-6043100C121D-1292-0000006380954D5E.jpg

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In the background I can hear branches & snow falling to the ground. I'm glad nothing fell on me. The snow is melting fairly quickly.

LGA -- the new hell on earth. Never drops below freezing, never snows, and the growing season never ends. Given their climate I'm surprised palm trees aren't natives.

I wish.

In all seriousness, I actually wouldn't mind if they replaced some of the trees that fell in this storm & Sandy with windmill palms. I bet they wouldn't snap as easily. But that's another topic.

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Which is why the LGA number is plausible.

I can see the Throgs Neck bridge from my house, I'm not exactly inland. And yet I had close to 7 inches. So LGA got only 1 inch while everyone around them in every direction got 6+ inches?

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I can see the Throgs Neck bridge from my house, I'm not exactly inland. And yet I had close to 7 inches. So LGA got only 1 inch while everyone around them in every direction got 6+ inches?

Is your house exposed (as in no trees or buildings) to a wind directly off the sound?

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Also debunked with this storm-ocean water temps can be quite warm and get all snow-started and ended as snow here despite LIS water temps in the high 50's.

The track of the storm and having a cold high in place are always the 2 most important factors...there was no snow out here with the October storm but several inches this time...why?

1/ The Sound was marginally cooler...low 60's last October but closer to mid-50's this time...that helped out here, believe me.

2/ The anticyclone was exceptionally cold for early November (recall 16 F at FOK) and a somewhat better and colder one than the one in place for the October event last year.

Those two factors were enough to change it from 36 F to 37 F and all rain to 32 F to 34 F and a decent snowfall...

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Which is why the LGA number is plausible.

Although the gradient around LGA seems to be much steeper based upon reports, i.e. 1" to 7" over a mile or so.

Here, it goes from nothing on the beach, to 2" a few miles inland, 5" several miles inland, then 10"+ once 8-9+ miles inland.

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LGA never reported anything but light snow during the storm!!!! LGA was under the best banding the entire time. Snow was blinding and easily heavy for at least 3 hours.

Light snow under this band!!!

E6AD5C3C-C4D9-4DDD-BC92-6043100C121D-1292-0000006380954D5E.jpg

Why are you having a meltdown (no pun intended) over this? The snow will likely be all or mostly gone by today or tomorrow anyway.

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Although the gradient around LGA seems to be much steeper based upon reports, i.e. 1" to 7" over a mile or so.

Here, it goes from nothing on the beach, to 2" a few miles inland, 5" several miles inland, then 10"+ once 8-9+ miles inland.

I heard (on the news, no actual confirmation) that right at the beach in Port Jeff there was no accumulation...but there is a rapid increase in elevation as one goes south of the water to over 200 feet asl in spots (and most of the area is over 160 feet)...which is where the 5 inch report for Port Jeff came from on the PNS (not mine as I went to work before the storm ended..it was snowing hard as I pulled out of my driveway)

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It depends on where they measure. If they measure right next to the water I can imagine most of the snow melting on contact, even if it was sticking less than a quarter mile away. The reports I am seeing are of some big differences over short distances near the water. Some one posted about this along the Hudson in Westchester.

LGA never reported anything but light snow during the storm!!!! LGA was under the best banding the entire time. Snow was blinding and easily heavy for at least 3 hours.

Light snow under this band!!!

E6AD5C3C-C4D9-4DDD-BC92-6043100C121D-1292-0000006380954D5E.jpg

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It depends on where they measure. If they measure right next to the water I can imagine most of the snow melting on contact, even if it was sticking less than a quarter mile away. The reports I am seeing are of some big differences over short distances near the water. Some one posted about this along the Hudson in Westchester.

This would have been a great storm to take a measurement at Jaynes Hill...as I drove over Bald Hill this morning you could see there was more snow up there than down below.

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