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Adam told me earlier today that the models should have a better idea on what the s/w will do Thursday/Friday

We also need to see quickly the storm actually moves north as that may not be handled that well by the models. The faster solutions probably would have the approaching trough have a positive tilt long enough to allow the storm to escape east. the slower solution gives more time for the negative tilt to develop. Still we play a waiting game.

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I assume warm BL temps prevent us from getting hurricane snow? 850s looks below 0C based on a post in the NYC thread.

@Ian...is that 2-4" of precip cumulative over the storm?

850 lines up north/south over DC much of the event.. crashes east toward the end. Precip not terribly heavy by then tho maybe wet flakes?

QPF is cumulative.

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landfall map euro (937 mb): https://twitter.com/...4/photo/1/large

Wow. This is something right there. 850 winds blasting over 90mph over LI and even 80mph overhead here. I'm not sure how to correlate at the surface but I would guess gusts in 50-60mph range with heavier precip. That really is something. The MD beaches would take a hit for sure before winds turned offshore.

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Love how JB includes us in the "damaging snow threat" sector of his recent tweet http://twitter.com/B...6109568/photo/1

He has to include somewhere in the I-95 corridor in order to keep things interesting.

My question would be whether he made the map based on the Euro verbatim or his own interpretation of things. Because if it's the former, then he's lying.

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He has to include somewhere in the I-95 corridor in order to keep things interesting.

My question would be whether he made the map based on the Euro verbatim or his own interpretation of things. Because if it's the former, then he's lying.

His map was done based on his own interpretation of things much earlier in the day (I'm a subscriber to WeatherBell).

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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION

NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD

329 PM EDT TUE OCT 23 2012

VALID 12Z FRI OCT 26 2012 - 12Z TUE OCT 30 2012

...POTENTIAL FOR MAJOR STORM OVER THE MID ATLANTIC & NORTHEAST

EARLY NEXT WEEK...

FINAL...

ELECTED TO STAY THE COURSE BY KEEPING THE MAJOR EAST COAST STORM

IN PLAY FOR THE FINAL FORECAST. THE 12Z/23 DETERMINISTIC GFS SENDS

SANDY'S CIRCULATION OUT PAST BERMUDA BY THE END OF THE PERIOD,

WHILE THE 12Z/23 GEFS MEAN INCORPORATES IT ALONG THE EAST COAST IN

LINE WITH THE HPC MANUAL FORECAST. THE 12Z/23 GEM GLOBAL KEEPS

SANDY OUT OF REACH OF THE DIGGING TROUGH OVER NORTH AMERICA,

THOUGH LIKE THE LATEST GFS, IT IS PERHAPS BEST TO REGARD SUCH A

DETERMINISTIC SOLUTION AS A SLIGHTLY SOUPED-UP ENSEMBLE MEMBER.

THE 12Z/23 ECMWF STILL INCORPORATES AN EXTREMELY DEEP

POST-TROPICAL SANDY INTO THE MID-LEVEL PIVOT POINT OF THE POLAR

JET IN THE VICINITY OF LONG ISLAND EARLY NEXT TUESDAY, THE DYNAMIC

TRANSFER RESULTING IN A MINIMUM PRESSURE OF AT LEAST 932MB.

THEREIN LIES THE STORM'S MENACE- A POWERHOUSE CAPABLE OF WHIPPING

THE ATLANTIC INTO A FRENZY AND CHURNING UP DANGEROUS TIDES. OF

PARTICULAR NOTE IS THE COINCIDENCE OF THE FULL MOON ON SUNDAY,

OFTEN A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR IN HISTORICAL EVENTS. THE OCEAN EFFECTS

OF THE SYSTEM MAY STILL BE REALIZED EVEN IF POST-TROPICAL SANDY

DOES NOT MAKE LANDFALL IN THE UNITED STATES. BESIDES THE WIND, THE

OTHER SENSIBLE WEATHER THREAT IS HEAVY RAINS, WITH HEAVY SNOWS

POSSIBLE ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE HYBRID CIRCULATION WHERE

CONTINENTAL POLAR AIR RUSHES ACROSS THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS.

HAVE PREFERRED THE EUROPEAN CENTRE GUIDANCE FOR HANDLING OF THE

MAIN BAND OF WESTERLIES FOR SEVERAL DAYS NOW, ITS SYNOPTIC NUANCES

BEST SERVING THE CENTRAL AND WESTERN UNITED STATES WHERE THE FLOW

OPENS UP IN THE WAKE OF THE AMPLIFICATION OF THE EASTERN TROUGH.

CISCO

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