ORH_wxman Posted August 19, 2011 Author Share Posted August 19, 2011 A trace or .4 is useless, wasnt it you that once had a quote in your sig adressing this very issue a couple years back? Who cares about a trace of snow that is gone in an hour, is after xmas before we had anything worth mentioning and it came fast and furious. This is not a judgement poll...its based on facts. Trace of snow is the first flakes of the season regardless if anyone thinks its "useless" or not. You could start another thread that asks when the first 4" snowfall will be if you'd like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 This is not a judgement poll...its based on facts. Trace of snow is the first flakes of the season regardless if anyone thinks its "useless" or not. You could start another thread that asks when the first 4" snowfall will be if you'd like. Will, do you have anything archived about the July 10, 1955 snow in Boston? I can't find much other than the stuff on the climo page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 That was a nice, and a precurser to a pretty epic season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Will, do you have anything archived about the July 10, 1955 snow in Boston? I can't find much other than the stuff on the climo page July 10th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 This thread is sickening... it's August!!!!! Who wants snow already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 July 10th? http://www.erh.noaa.gov/box/climate/snowbos.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 This thread is sickening... it's August!!!!! Who wants snow already? Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 http://www.erh.noaa....te/snowbos.html Must be hail...you know...Pete's trace of summer snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 I'll take a stab. I think October into early November is dominated by a flat ridge (in accordance with La Nina falls) and above normal temps before things chill down my mid-November. ORH: 11/15 BDL: 11/23 BOS: 11/27 PVD: 12/2 PSF: 11/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Must be hail...you know...Pete's trace of summer snow. Probably right... could not find anything in a search other than snowman21's post and the noaa thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 This thread is sickening... it's August!!!!! Who wants snow already? I'll settle for days in the 60s, lows in the 30s, sunny and dry. There's plenty of time for snow for later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 20, 2011 Author Share Posted August 20, 2011 Probably right... could not find anything in a search other than snowman21's post and the noaa thing Those traces you see in summer on certain sites is hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 BOS November 28th PVD December 2nd BDL November 16th ORH November 16th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 I'll take a stab. I think October into early November is dominated by a flat ridge (in accordance with La Nina falls) and above normal temps before things chill down my mid-November. ORH: 11/15 BDL: 11/23 BOS: 11/27 PVD: 12/2 PSF: 11/12 BOS November 28th PVD December 2nd BDL November 16th ORH November 16th wow, we were close on a couple! that's freaky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 BOS: 11/22 ORH: 11/3 BDL: 11/16 PVD: 11/22 Fine week to travel here to MI. Still summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 I dont' know about first flakes at the climo sites, but I'm pulling for sledding to work up an appetite on Thahnksgiving. 57.9/57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 BOS: 11/3 ORH: 10/25 BDL: 11/18 PVD: 11/3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Might be going 50/50 on the purchase of a really nice cabin in Rangeley. Wonder what I should put in for first flakes up there......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 BOS: 12/5 ORH: 11/14 BDL: 11/17 PVD: 12/5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 I'll take a stab: ORH: 11/10 BDL: 11/25 BOS: 12/1 PVD: 12/13 TOL: 11/10 (My closest station that you guys would know) I figured if I go all over the place I'll hit the mark on one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Bow Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Might be going 50/50 on the purchase of a really nice cabin in Rangeley. Wonder what I should put in for first flakes up there......... Better guess soon. Could be before you know it. I would think late September would be a safe bet. Awesome place to go sledding if all the flatlanders haven't destroyed the trails when you get there. I prefer to go up to the Laurentian mountains in Canada but if time is limited and you get lucky with fresh snow then Pittsburg and Rangley are not bad second choices. It would be awesome owning property up there. Good luck with it if you do end up splitting it with someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Might be going 50/50 on the purchase of a really nice cabin in Rangeley. Wonder what I should put in for first flakes up there......... Tamarack could help you out on that one. I'll just broadbrush it with "pretty damned early". Good luck on the possible purchase, I'd love to have a place in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Better guess soon. Could be before you know it. I would think late September would be a safe bet. Awesome place to go sledding if all the flatlanders haven't destroyed the trails when you get there. I prefer to go up to the Laurentian mountains in Canada but if time is limited and you get lucky with fresh snow then Pittsburg and Rangley are not bad second choices. It would be awesome owning property up there. Good luck with it if you do end up splitting it with someone. Unfortuatnley, it would be due to an inheritance on my wife's friend's side and the other family member is not being interested in it, so we'd buy them out. I stayed there once, and it was a really nice spot. Two bedroom log home, nice deck. 10 acres. Moose and bear galore. It's not right on the lakes, but does it really matter? 75.0/65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Unfortuatnley, it would be due to an inheritance on my wife's friend's side and the other family member is not being interested in it, so we'd buy them out. I stayed there once, and it was a really nice spot. Two bedroom log home, nice deck. 10 acres. Moose and bear galore. It's not right on the lakes, but does it really matter? 75.0/65 mike do you know what elevation of said spot is ball park or more precise locale currently 91/75 in the mouth of the rat, fl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 mike do you know what elevation of said spot is ball park or more precise locale currently 91/75 in the mouth of the rat, fl You're in FL?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 mike do you know what elevation of said spot is ball park or more precise locale currently 91/75 in the mouth of the rat, fl Hey, Pickles--we heard you were down in FL. What's up with that???? We miss you up here. I don't have the exact, but the p/c of the area has it a little over 1700'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowMan Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 BOS: 11/3 ORH: 10/25 BDL: 11/18 PVD: 11/3 BOS: 11/12 ORH: 10/28 BDL: 11/20 PVD: 11/18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 sometime during the 2nd or 3rd week of October, and not from CAA instability grapple but from synoptic/dynamics and a substantial mixing event , with 1-3" 500' and 3-5" at 1,000+ - variable to an inch of glop beneath. Am noticing the extended range operational GFS loading cold thickness into N Canadian shield faster than normal - which means noting deterministically, but when factored into other global queues is a portent. Colder than normal autumn and a plausible return to persistent EC/OV -NAO counter-balancing flow in the westerlies. We saw a Patriots football game in a wet snow "storm" - if we want to call it that - just 2 years ago, and have had a couple of dusting events in October in the 2000-2005 years, so not unheard of or unprecedented anyway. That combined with the mode of the AO/NAO shifting and neutral weak NINA persisting, are heavily correlated as well. This year strikes me as an autumn 1995 analog in the 50-75 percentile. Though it didn't snow in October that year, it could have! It came in around the 9th of Nov for the Rt 2 corridor and worked south from that point forward. Similar large scale circulation system that summer leading, with similar ENSO, and though the NAO was still in positive mode then, it did a local seasonal time-span negative jaunt where this time, we actually have the background canvas throwing open robes and exposing goodies - she's coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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