SluggerWx Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 All...GA radio has the Catoosa Hotel being on exit 348, which is Ringold, which is populated. Google Maps tells us this is a Super 8, Holiday Inn Express or the Baymont Inn and Suites... Restaurants were also mentioned with the term 'leveled.' Praying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 And there's not the level of specific storm shelters or underground shelter there is in, say, Oklahoma. And these are the rare tornadoes that can kill you in the interior bathroom of a real house. This. Even with warnings, and even if people heeded them, if there was no basement to go to, and if that was an EF-5 storm, there's only so much protection you are going to get in an interior room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 There's no reason to speculate on the death toll right now. The vast scope of this outbreak means that many areas will take several hours... overnight... and into the morning tomorrow to comb. Really the death toll is still completely up in the air right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 eurharlee heads up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 All...GA radio has the Catoosa Hotel being on exit 348, which is Ringold, which is populated. Google Maps tells us this is a Super 8, Holiday Inn Express or the Baymont Inn and Suites... Restaurants were also mentioned with the term 'leveled.' Praying. Yeah this isn't like Bill's Motel. We are talking about big buildings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 KOUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBriedis Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 The problem is this may have been strong enough that all the warning in the world wouldn't help. We don't have many basements to hide in down here and going to the center of your house isn't much use if the whole house is swept off the foundation. Suffice to say we'll find out tomorrow with the light of day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 once again the storms this morning knocked power out to many people in AL..they had tornaodes and very highe winds about 5-7am they had no power or access to TV and NOAA weather radio was down in some locations and the internet also i assume the sirens won't work if no power I'm not sure about their warning systems down there, but there are warning systems (sirens) that are activated via a phone number and they are equipped with a battery backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderon Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Let's move this thread to the SE forum... since most of the activity is there. Did you bother to look over there first? http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/17385-next-severe-weather-event-april-26-29/page__st__960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowahawkeyedave Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 There's no reason to speculate on the death toll right now. The vast scope of this outbreak means that many areas will take several hours... overnight... and into the morning tomorrow to comb. Really the death toll is still completely up in the air right now. Agree with you completely. With an outbreak this massive, it's going to take a while to search all the buildings and get everyone accounted for. Especially now that it's dark out it's going to take even longer. Broadcasting reports is one thing, but speculating on whether those reports are right or wrong is way to early to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Fact of the matter is too many people have already died today. There is a reason we work everyday towards improving both the warning process and the responses they generate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Anderson Cooper will be talking with the Mayor of Birmingham soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Fact of the matter is too many people have already died today. There is a reason we work everyday towards improving both the warning process and the responses they generate. Agree, like many have said, you can put warnings out an hour in advance, but it is entirely up to the people to heed these warnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I really liked how the SPC issued the PDS watches hours in advance today. They did an excellent job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-5 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 The morning storms absolutely helped create the problems. It caused the most widespread damage I have seen in 10 years of living in Birmingham. No doubt there were numerous F0-F1 tornadoes this morning that caused damage in addition to the straight line winds. We finally got power on around midday but not everyone did. The warning siren systems down here are as good as anyone's. That would not be an issue on a normal day. -Just saw a convoy of national guard vehicles heading into Birmingham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 For people saying there were no sirens in places like Birmingham, you could clearly hear the sirens on TWC when Jeff Morrow was there. Must depend on location. ABC 33/40 said Tuscaloosa sirens were down also from previous outbreaks Birmingham videos have the sirens sounding continuously, but in today's videos there are no sirens playing off in from each photographers vantage point. With a tornado that large hitting as many connectors, transformers and power lines many siren systems were probably knocked out miles in advance of the tornado. Also, coupled with all the storms and power outages from this mornings storms... sirens may have failed many today. Also, not just sirens but probably the EAS or even ability to reach local media warnings too with loss of power. Also noticing a lot of videos on Youtube the authors didn't even know they were looking at a tornado with the massive wedge because it was so big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluggerWx Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 3 Fatalities on Catoosa scanner ...just relayed on scanner. 3 confirmed 10-109D's. This is a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Agree, like many have said, you can put warnings out an hour in advance, but it is entirely up to the people to heed these warnings. Yes, but I don't think you understand how some of this stuff is out of each individual's control. Imagine houses that don't have basements and are swept off their foundations. You're telling me if the people in those houses don't survive it's their fault b/c they didn't heed the warnings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEHOCEY77 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Up to 53 dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEHOCEY77 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Did Spann just make reference to the Super Outbreak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Yes, but I don't think you understand how some of this stuff is out of each individual's control. Imagine houses that don't have basements and are swept off their foundations. You're telling me if the people in those houses don't survive it's their fault b/c they didn't heed the warnings? No I do understand that aspect trust me on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Did Spann just make reference to the Super Outbreak? For the state of Alabama, which purely by the numbers could be comparable for the state of Alabama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluggerWx Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 They are searching a street half a block away from Ringold High School because houses are leveled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 This needs to be a rude awakening for others, and more so people that live in big cities. This is going to happen in Chicago, ITS going to happen and people here are not ready for a violent tonado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Weather Today Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I doubt if those tornadoes were rated today they would be rated that high(at least some of them since they tend to be conservative these days) anyway we can save that debate for a slow winter day. Also no outbreak is the same. This one will cover from TX all the way into GA maybe and north into TN..with scattered reports likley in the OH valley and Northeast for those of you who missed it go back and look at the radar at 2-3am over MS last night......wow Did you happen to capture a screen shot of that radar image? Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderon Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Unreal footage from University Mall in Tuscaloosa. 3:00 min in is where the action starts really cranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Also careful with the siren discussion because they are only designed to be outdoor warning systems. Folks in cars, office buildings, homes, etc. need to have some other form of communication to receive warnings effectively. For instance, ABC 33/40 was being simulcast on the radio, especially for those without power for TVs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowahawkeyedave Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Here's a clickable image of all the tornado reports for today so far. http://www.weather.com/outlook/weather-news/news/articles/tornado-outbreak-april-27_2011-04-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEHOCEY77 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 The famous Dreamland BBQ in Tuscaloosa has been destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderon Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 From Bamawx: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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