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moving this to banter so it doesn't get lost under the oppressive heat dome This question is dense, so I'll provide some details that should be considered when making your evaluation. First and foremost, owning the panel vs. leasing them: others may have varying opinions, but for me, I wanted to own them so I could claim all the benefits. The drawback to owning them is you are laying out cash up front (or financing) to get generating. So factor in the financing costs or the lost time value of the money you spend to get them installed. Is this purely an economic decision, or are there other factors that are influencing your decision? I considered economic considerations, but I also wanted to make a conscientious decision to spend some of my personal elective resources in decreasing my carbon emissions that are making the massive heat dome even bigger. At the time I installed, there was a 30% federal tax credit and a $1,000 state tax credit, so my 35K installed cost was shaved to 23.5k. Because I was an early adopter, I was able to enter the SREC pool and I was paid between $250 and $300 for every MWH the system generates for the first 10 years. I'm in my 10th year now and have generated 82 MWH, so call it $2,200 per year, direct deposit, into my bank account. The system generates more power in a year that I use. My utility credits excess generation on a 1 for 1 basis, so over generation in the spring and summer is absorbed in the winter. March through October are excess generation months, February and November are typically neutral to slightly negative, and December and January are deficit months. The savings from no electric bill is probably about $2,000-2,200 per year, on average, over the last 10 years. Now for the degradation/repairs. The degradation I've observed is small. When the system was first installed, my best solar production day of the year would produce about 51-52 KWH. This year, my best production was 48 KWH. Best production comes in the spring, before leaf-out, when temps are cool during the day. For repairs, I have a Solaredge system which uses a central inverter in the basement, and individual optimizers under each panel. My system was purchased with a 10 year warranty on the system except 25 year warranty on the panels. 2 optimizers were replaced under warranty 4 years ago, no charge. I replaced 2 optimizers 2 years ago, they cost me nothing under warranty, but I had to get up on the roof and install them (which is not for the faint of heart). At the end of last summer, the inverter failed. It was replaced under warranty, but I lost 2 months of prime generation and had to pay an electrician $600 to install it since my installer wouldn't let me attempt it myself (j/k, I know my limits). Fortunately I have a large credit built up over the years with the POCO, so I didn't have to pay a power bill when the inverter was off line waiting to be replaced. With all this factored in, I figure my break even was somewhere around 7 years. With the decrease in the cost of these installations in the last 10 years, the increase in the cost of power, and the loss of the federal tax credit, I'm not sure what the payback period would be for a contemporaneous installation. Hope this help, post any questions you have, happy to respond.
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Ahhhh. Checked my cameras and everything was dry.
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Yesterday I had a late day rally up to 33C but I still wasn't uncomfortable even cycling in the evening. Then the power went out for 5 hours, I was still good. I wake up this morning, I'm not good. It is soup time of 90s by 10am, TWN has me at 35C humidex of 47 coming - if the power goes out again
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Learning new things
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95 feels like 107 here
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90/77
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Central PA Summer 2026 Discussion/Obs Thread
Itstrainingtime replied to Voyager's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
93/76 at noon, HI is 112. 112 at freaking noon. This sucks. Sorry. Not sorry. -
July 1 1964: Tyler picks up over 6 inches of rain in 24 hours. For Wednesday, July 1, 2026 1792 - A tornado or hurricane hit Philadelphia and New York City. Many young people were drowned while out boating on that Sunday. (David Ludlum) 1911 - The high of just 79 degrees at Phoenix AZ was their coolest daily maximum of record for the month of July. The normal daily high for July 1st is 105 degrees. (The Weather Channel) 1979 - It snowed almost half a foot at Stampede Pass WA, a July record. (The Weather Channel) 1987 - Lake Charles LA was drenched with a month's worth of rain during the early morning. More than five inches of rain soaked the city, including 2.68 inches in one hour. A thunderstorm in the southern Yakima Valley of Washington State produced high winds which downed trees up to six feet in diameter. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary) 1988 - Twenty-six cities in the north central and northeastern U.S. reported record low temperatures for the date. Lows of 48 degrees at Providence RI, 48 degrees at Roanoke VA, 49 degrees at Stratford CT, and 48 degrees at Wilmington, DE, were records for the month of July. Boston MA equalled their record for July with a low of 50 degrees. Five inches of snow whitened Mount Washington NH. (The National Weather Summary) 1989 - Showers and thunderstorms associated with the low pressure system which was once Tropical Storm Allison continued to drench parts of Mississippi, Louisiana and eastern Texas. Late night thunderstorms produced 12.58 inches of rain at Biloxi, MS, in six hours, and 10.73 inches at Gulfport MS. Flooding in Mississippi over the first six days of the month caused 55 million dollars damage. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) Observances: 1 Wed National Postal Worker Day 1 Wed World Bronchiectasis Day 1 Wed International Joke Day 1 Wed Canada Day 1 Wed Disability Pride Month 1 Wed Bobby Bonilla Day 1 Wed Battle of Gettysburg 1 Wed American Zoo Day 1 Wed Blink 182 Day 1 Wed Dog House Repair Month 1 Wed Early Bird Day 1 Wed International Chicken Wing Day 1 Wed International Reggae Day 1 Wed National Baby-Led Weaning Day 1 Wed National Creative Ice Cream Flavors Day 1 Wed National Financial Freedom Day 1 Wed National Gingersnap Day 1 Wed National Patio Day 1 Wed National Television Heritage Day 1 Wed National U.S. Postage Stamp Day 1 Wed Second Second Half of the Year Day 1 Wed Smart Irrigation Month 1 Wed ZIP Code Day
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Mainly over CT and parts of LI
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Currently 90°/77° at my house. I haven’t seen these readings since moving back from living down South. Impressed
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58? Where's that?
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I’m in Suffolk county LI did well with this morning storm
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When stms are over the Lake, many times I get a blast of fog from the strong outflow. Lake Superior water temps are well below normal right now. Warm, humid air creates a lot of fog in Spring/early Summer.
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Philly seems to be ground zero. Tommorow 104 with Dewpoints in the high 60s/low 70s, heat index near 115
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0.13" from this morning and only 1.02" for the entire month of June. The entire south shore is dry as a bone! Currently only 81/72
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Where did people get thunderstorms??
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Two Harbors' mean 53.9 (avg 56.3) is the 11th coldest temp, tied with 2019, out of 65 unique temps (midpoint temp is 56.6) in the record since 1894. 4.63" of precip (avg 4.23"). DLH mean 60.7 (avg 61.2) is 26th warmest out of 79 unique temps (midpoint temp is 59.0) since 1874. 4.28" of precip (avg 4.39). I looked at a PWS stn that is near the old wx bureau office location in the downtown area. It had an avg of 59.6. Duluth arpt data in the Threadex record starts in 1941. Near lake, and over the hill data can be a little different with the diurnal range.
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93/74/103 where im working
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Sea breeze as expected doing its thing today. 80 here, 75 on the barrier island. Up to 90 a mile inland. Water's ice cold from upwelling again. Back down to 58. There will be a lot of water rescues over the next few days.
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Yeah...agreed. I wasn't interested in nailing down - per se - where it is we "actually" are... full disclosure ( there's alien technology being hid from us!!! repent repent) no but to be honest, I'm wondering if CR can be trusted or might have known this or that. I mean I don't know anymore. This f era of reality and civility ... it's got a problem. One that is almost as big as GW and it's entirely self-manifesting at species' level.
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Meh, only 86F at my house right now, not impressed. Leaving for DCL at 4am to beat the traffic. My game cam up there reported 82F at 11am.
