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If there's any way the 12z ICON is on the right track at the end of its run, that would play out a lot better for early December than 0z/6z GFS/CMC/ECM... We'll see if the ICON is far off on its own or a harbinger of a 12z trend.

I did jump but I'd hardly call it a ledge at one or two inches high which, coincidentally, is the most snow anyone will see this winter.

A few of the same people that were hyping December just 48 hours ago are now crapping all over the winter.

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Exactly. 70 Is certainly not happening.

All those times were cold decembers that changed to torches in january that persisted for the remainder of the season.

You guys are dumb

This isn’t true. For every example a pattern started in dec and persisted, I can come up with a few counter examples when the pattern changed in January.

0.23” here

Clouds starting to clear out here. Hopefully dry enough for some yardwork this afternoon.

Also there have been loads of times where once a crap pattern is established it persists for the remainder of winter.

Definitely something in the works for this period. We just need the shortwaves to play ball and sync up properly. Nice to have something to watch for a change.

Dews on the Euro are showing mid 50’s. Airmass is cooked. 60’s are game but 70 is still a reach. Will have to watch bc it’s a torch setup. Question is can we maximize based on timing and clouds.

upper 50s to low 60s at best?

I think people often forget that the beginning half of December is climatologically unfavorable for snow for the Mid-Atlantic

Pretty sure there is Wednesday’s furnace to contend. Been telegraphed by guidance for a week now.

Whereas there can be a lag, the diagrams by phase are based on concurrent temps. So, phase 8 being the coldest in Dec is based on temps during phase 8 being the coldest of any phase rather than with a lag.

0.31” overnight Imby/Columbia. November total to date 1.20”

Farther north (Jersey Highlands) we had 7 events of 18-24" from March 1956 thru February 1961, the greatest run of big dumps I've seen anywhere. Five of those were cold powder, with temps low teens to low 20s. Closest is probably Nov 2014 thru March 2018, with 6 storms 15.5-21" plus 2 with 13". A shorter run, Feb 2007 thru Feb 2009, had 4 events 15.5-24.5". Oddly, the snowiest of those 3 winters, 07-08, had nothing over 12.5" and ony 2 in double digits.

The can be a lag. I know Roundy has said such a common mistake is to think MJO phase correlation automatically or immediately shows up. Both are a mistake to think.

Yeah my sister is there with my niece. Definitely wetter than I expected and feel bad. Terrible forecast.

No its not Stop posting nonsense