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it's hard to be below average in the summer without a very wet month, does it look like we'll get a lot of rain in August?
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Yep and the other issue is even with cooler temps, the sun is so strong it heats the house up quickly. If I turn it off, like today, it's only off during the mornings and on cloudy days.
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But for example, temperatures rise quicker here during the day and fall quicker here at night with a lower dew point..... doesn't dew point indicate actual moisture content while relative humidity is relative to the saturation point at that temperature?
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I wonder if that heat had occurred a month later we would have challenged the records we set in 2011 on this date. Late July is usually about 5 degrees hotter than late June.
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Yeah, I never turn mine off. If the house cools off, the a/c unit won't click on.
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July 2025 Obs/Disco ... possible historic month for heat
tamarack replied to Typhoon Tip's topic in New England
Have to concentrate on the cool season veggies - cole crops and root crops. When we lived in Fort Kent we had damage to our pumpkins on July 31, 1978 and the neighbor's beans were killed. Hit 28 late that August. We were then at the edge of the built-up section of town at 550' elev. Moved to a back settlement at 970' in 1981 and on August 28, 1982 we had slushy flakes. In both places we had to ripen 90%+ of our tomatoes indoors. In 1983 we reached Sept 13 without getting below 39 and the forecast low for the next morning was 40. That verified at 25 and our green tomatoes were fit to use for croquet. -
I voted cooling. To this point extreme cold has killed more than extreme heat though heat related deaths are increasing. -4C cooling would be devastating to food supply, among other things, which could easily kill hundreds of millions. GW has lead to increased crop sizes to this point.
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Same story. Storms just kept coming Monday. Turning over the atmo didn't matter. Storms seemed to redevelop on a boundary. Well the extended forecast calls for more heat, humidity, and suffering. The mild start to summer was nice, but it's ancient history now. First thought the July heat might break for August. Looks more like low key heat continues after the true heat wave breaks. Wake me up in September. Prolly still be hot, but likely less humid, and definitely a lower sun angle. Football too.
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July 2025 Obs/Disco ... possible historic month for heat
Damage In Tolland replied to Typhoon Tip's topic in New England
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2025-2026 ENSO
michsnowfreak replied to 40/70 Benchmark's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
How welcome would that be! It was actually a pretty nice start to June. Hardly used any AC til June 20th or so but since then I haven't turned it off. Even with a few cool nights and pleasant days this week, im like, what's the point? -
Currently 85/69 with clear skies and a light breeze. I’ll admit, this isn’t too bad. We all have frog-in-a-boiling-pot-syndrome after the last few weeks- any dewpoint under 9,000 feels nice now lol
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That’s why I am not into these stats when it comes to maximum high temperatures or cold minimum temperatures. Still felt like 90F. And the 90F mark is real not a good barometer anymore. 95F is the new 90F. .
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What ends up happening at many locations is that they alternate between extreme heat and extreme flooding. We saw a microcosm of this global pattern with the 103° to 105° heat back in June in our area. Then the recent severe flooding centered just inland from the coast around our area. Now multiply this across the entire Northern Hemisphere this summer to see the scope of what is going on.
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Hey Liberty, If the average relative humidity were to have risen, then I’d agree. Whereas the avg dewpoint has risen (reflecting increased moisture content), there’s no indication the RH has also risen as the temps have risen along with the dewpoints.
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July 2025 Obs/Disco ... possible historic month for heat
dendrite replied to Typhoon Tip's topic in New England
Summer of yore on the gefs -
Isn't the moisture content going to put a blanket on the most extreme temperatures though? The wetter the air is the harder it is to heat up. As an example (besides the usual onshore flow stuff), Death Valley (as an example) has not exceeded its all time record of 134 set in 1913. Even if that record is eventually proven to be too high, their all time record has *stalled* in the 129-130 degree range. Same goes for the other global hot spot on the planet, the Middle and Near East (which have all time record highs in the 129-130 region also.) Do you think that the planet has a cap for how hot it can actually get? And would this be because of the amount of water that we have on the planet that will be a barrier to the highest temperatures on the planet from getting much hotter? So, for example, if we eventually see 3C of warming, would the hottest temperatures on the planet be limited to a 1C rise on the high end?
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We have been seeing both an increase in extreme high temperatures and flooding across the Northern Hemisphere this summer. That’s why the global average temperatures and moisture content is so high. Even our area experienced record moisture content with record dew points and PWATS. Plus we just saw the highest June temperatures ever recorded for the month of June at many spots. This month has seen the highest July Dew points on record for many spots. Plus record low temperatures. The all-time highs this month for maximum temperatures have been on other continents. So these daily global temperatures are a great marker for the record local heat and rainfall extremes since a warmer atmosphere holds more moisture.
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July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
this is like Florida - Today
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July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
bluewave replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
I know in Long Beach that they depend on the beach traffic for the local businesses. Especially combined with NYC people coming off the trains. Atlantic Beach and Lido Beach have many fewer commercial businesses. So they don’t see the same type of beach attendance that Long Beach does. -
July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
FPizz replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
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July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
Brian5671 replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
If that ridge parks out west for a few weeks-the worst of the summer heat is likely done as we head into August. -
If this is correct, this is nuts for July 22 nd. Peak surf zone temps are normally mid to late August. Today's North Wildwood sea temperature is 81.0°F (Which is 7.2°F warmer than normal for this time of year)
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Not just Michigan. It's definitely been a very dry month to date in many locations in the lower Great Lakes. Just looking at the data for Fort Wayne, Cleveland and Buffalo, the last time (and only time) it was drier than this year at all three locations was 1936. Fort Wayne, Indiana (5th driest of 128 years) Cleveland, Ohio (11th driest of 155 years) Buffalo, New York (9th driest of 155 years) New Philadelphia, Ohio (2nd driest of 68 years) Bradford, Pennsylvania (6th driest of 65 years) Also, while the official Akron area site hasn't been quite as dry, the site at Akron Municipal Airport [formerly the official observation site for some time] has only registered 0.21" of rain, which is the driest of 83 years at the site.
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Ha ha Delaware is the epi center, or in this case the oblong center.