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Finally getting some consistent flakes. Light, but it’s going.

Smallish flakes with varying intensity in RVA near Carytown. Quite windy

Snowing at a decent rate on the farm cams in Stuart

The Wednesday clipper looks like it’ll have the same exact rain/ Snow line that last weeks storm had . Congrats WOR and NW again

The other thing that is an issue is this perpetual trough off CA. Like it’s just sitting there waiting to eff up a nice developing ridge. Can we get a clean west coast ridge for once?

Yeah I kinda figured you knew and you were complaning about me in general. Why don't you just use the ignore feature? Very easy. I behaved myself better than I used to but yeah last week I fell off the wagon...so what? But again, you can hit ignore. Why you and others don't I have no idea.

Thank you. Some of these people are living in an alternate reality. Sucks we’ve been whiffing…but it ain’t like this hasn’t happened before. But you’d swear by some of these posts that were in the twilight zone. Maybe The pope should take a drive to VA…he’ll think he’s at the Arctic circle.

Great spot. Boardwalks thru the marshy ponds are cool and interesting. Always a blast finding shark teeth on the beach. I've never gone home empty handed and some years ago while chapperoning an elementary trip I found 10 and gave them away to the kids. Have a hunch they all remember that day still. Snow finally picking up enough here to start sticking. Pretty windy out there so sideways snow at times. I live for days like this lol

Another view from 4650 on Beech.

Records: Highs: EWR: 66 (1980) NYC: 65 (1927) LGA: 64 (1951) JFK: 61 (2004) Lows: EWR: 14 (1934) NYC: 4 (1900) LGA: 18 (1976) JFK: 16 (1976) Historical: 1783: On Dec. 8th a mild period set in and by the 11th all the snow had melted and a diary entry on Dec. 8th described the mild period as "Indian Summer." Today, "Indian Summer" refers to mild fall weather after the season's first frost has occurred. (Washington Weather Book 2002 by Ambrose, Henry, Weiss) 1804: John Sayer at the Snake River Fir Trading Post near present day Pine City mentions: "Cold day. Thermometer 10 degrees below freezing." Lewis and Clark also noted this cold wave at their winter quarters in Ft. Mandan, North Dakota near present day Bismarck. (Ref. AccWeather Weather History) 1876: The term BLIZZARD first employed in government “Monthly Weather Review” (Ref. AccWeather Weather History) 1892 - A tremendous ice fall occurred at Gay Hill, TX. Ice averaged four to six inches in diameter. (David Ludlum) 1914: On December 7th through the 8th a northeast gale with a heavy glaze caused much damage in the Boston, Massachusetts area. (Ref. NOAA Boston Weather Events) 1935: From the Monthly Weather Review for December 1935, "The outstanding flood of December 1935 was the record-breaking overflow of Buffalo and White Oak Bayous at Houston, Texas on the 8 and 9th. This destructive flood was caused by excessive rainfall over Harris County, Texas during a 42 hour period on the 6th, 7th, 8th, with amounts ranging from 5.50 inches at Houston" to 16.49 inches at the Humble Oil Company in the northwestern part of Harris County. 1938 - The temperature at La Mesa, CA, soared to 108 degrees to set a U.S. record for the month of December. (The Weather Channel) 1946: Many locations from the Missouri Valley, Midwest to the Great Lakes set record high temperatures. Charles City and Osage, IA recorded their highest December temperatures on record with 63 °F and 62 °F respectively. Other daily record highs included: Topeka, KS: 70 °F, St. Louis, MO: 70 °F, Kansas City, MO: 69 °F, Des Moines, IA: 69 °F, Omaha, NE, 68 °F, Springfield, IL: 67 °F, Evansville, IN: 67 °F, Fort Wayne, IN: 65 °F, Indianapolis, IN: 65 °F and Chicago, IL: 64 °F. (Ref. Wilson - Additional Temperatures Listed On This Link) 1963 - Lightning caused the crash of a jet airliner killing 81 persons at Elkton, MD. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders - 1987) 1971: 6.8 inches of snow fell at Tucson, AZ for the city's biggest snowstorm on record. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1972: Brutal record cold held a firm grip from the Rockies to the West Coast. The low at Billings, MT was a record at -25 °F, and the high was only -14 °F. This was the 3rd straight day that the high temp did not exceed -11 °F. Record low temperatures for the date included: Great Falls, MT: -36 °F, Helena, MT: -35 °F (broke previous record by 11 degrees), Havre, MT: -33 °F, Sheridan, WY: -30 °F, Billings, MT: -25 °F, Winnemucca, NV: -25 °F, Pocatello, ID: -24 °F (broke previous record by 15 degrees), Rapid City, SD: -23 °F, Fargo, ND: -21 °F, Kalispell, MT: -20 °F, Burns, OR: -20 °F, Missoula, MT: -19 °F, Boise, ID: -19 °F (broke previous record by 17 degrees), Casper, WY: -19 °F, Eugene, OR: -12 °F (broke previous record by 30 degrees), Salem, OR: -12 °F (broke previous record by 29 degrees), Reno, NV: -12 °F (broke previous record by 12 degrees), Pendleton, OR: -11 °F (broke previous record by 14 degrees). The sunshine state lived up to its name with a few locations reporting record highs including: Fort Myers, FL: 88 °F, Orlando, FL: 86 °F and Tampa, FL: 86 °F. (Ref. Wilson - Additional Temperatures Listed On This Link) 1978: Record cold prevailed from the Rockies to the west coast thanks to a strong and deep upper level trough. Alamosa, CO tied their December record low with -42 °F. Other daily record lows for the date included: Flagstaff, AZ: -23 °F (broke previous record by 15 degrees), Pueblo, CO: -23 °F (broke previous record by 14 degrees), St. Cloud, MN: -22 °F, Sioux City, IA: -19 °F, North Platte, NE: -17 °F, Colorado Springs, CO: -14 °F, Grand Junction, CO: -12 °F (broke previous record by 15 degrees), Goodland, KS: -11 °F, Winslow, AZ: -10 °F (broke previous record by 15 degrees), Denver, CO: -10 °F, Clayton, NM: -7 °F, Roswell, NM: -7 °F (broke previous record by 13 degrees). Meanwhile, an upper level ridge off the southeast coast brought record high temperatures to parts of the southeast including: Fort Myers, FL: 90 °F, Orlando, FL: 88 °F, Daytona Beach, FL: 85 °F, Key West, FL: 85 °F, Vero Beach, FL: 85 °F-Tied, Jacksonville, FL: 83 °F, Columbia, SC: 83 °F, Savannah, GA: 82 °F, Charleston, SC: 82 °F, New Orleans, LA: 82 °F-Tied, Meridian, MS: 81 °F, Pensacola, FL: 80 °F, Wilmington, NC: 80 °F, Columbus, GA: 79 °F, Raleigh, NC: 78 °F, Bristol, TN: 77 °F, Chattanooga, TN: 77 °F, Richmond, VA: 77 °F, Norfolk, VA: 77 °F-Tied, Atlanta, GA: 76 °F, Tupelo, MS: 76 °F-Tied, Knoxville, TN: 75 °F-Tied, Cape Hatteras, NC: 74 °F, Washington, DC: 74 °F, Roanoke, VA: 73 °F, Sterling (Dulles Airport), VA: 72 °F and Oak Ridge, TN: 72 °F-Tied.(Ref. Wilson - Additional Temperatures Listed On This Link) 1987 - A cold front crossing the northwestern U.S. continued to produce high winds along the coast, and heavy snow blanketed parts of the western U.S. Snowfall totals in the mountains of western Nevada ranged up to 18 inches at Heavenly Valley, and near the Boreal Ski Resort, and winds at Reno NV gusted to 56 mph. Thunderstorms over southern Florida deluged the Florida Keys with up to five inches of rain. Strong winds, gusting to 48 mph at Gage OK, ushered wintry weather into the Central High Plains. Goodland KS, which one day earlier was 63 degrees, was blanketed with two inches of snow. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - Santa Ana winds buffeted southern California, with gusts to 92 mph reported at Laguna Peak. The high winds unroofed buildings, and downed trees and power lines, igniting five major fires, and numerous smaller ones. Damage was estimated at 15 to 20 million dollars. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1989 - A winter storm spread snow and freezing rain across much of the Atlantic Coast Region, from Georgia to New Jersey. Snowfall totals ranged up to seven inches, at Stanton VA and Tobacco MD. Up to six inches of snow blanketed the mountains of northern Georgia. More than one hundred auto accidents were reported in Gwinnett County GA. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1991: A late-season outbreak of severe thunderstorms ahead of a cold front moved across central Illinois. Baseball-size hail was reported at Manito in Mason County, as well as Tremont in Tazewell County. In Menard County, tennis-ball size hail was reported at Petersburg. A tornado touched down near the town of McLean and moved east to near Heyworth. This tornado caused some damage to a manufacturing plant, as well as several outbuildings on farms along the storm's path. (Ref. AccWeather Weather History) 1996: The same coastal storm the dumped heavy snow over central and northern New England produced 3 inches of rain at the Blue Hill Observatory in Milton, MA. This pushed its yearly rainfall to 65.77 inches. This set a new record for yearly rainfall for a site that has kept records at a relatively unchanged climatological location for 110 years. This new record was broken only two years later, in 1998. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1998: The most consecutive days of 70 °F or warmer in the winter season in Richmond, Virginia was 6 days in 1998 from December 3rd to December 8th. Also a maximum temperature of 81 °F occurred on the 6th and 7th in this period. (Ref. Richmond Weather Records KRIC) 2000: California braced for blackouts as the state continued to experience an electrical power crisis. Abnormally cold temperatures, 10 to 20 degrees below normal, pushed power demands to critical levels. The state warned that it was facing a Staff 3 crisis, where mandatory blackouts would occur. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 2002: A tragedy unfolded as residents in North Carolina started using unorthodox methods to keep warm during the state's worst ice storm ever. Over 100 people were hospitalized and two died from carbon monoxide poisoning. One man died after using a charcoal grill to heat his home and another died while using a generator in an enclosed sun-porch area. National Guardsmen went door to door to caution residents about heating their homes improperly and to notify them about the availability of shelters. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

The leaf blowers never stop here. Green grass, ice storm, deep snow cover, nuclear winter; it doesn't matter. The sound of leaf blowers here is analogous to the sound of rushing water near Niagara falls.

The Pope calling out our Mets when he makes silly trolling posts. Compares PSM to ISP LOL that's a new one. Its almost like he has no clue what climo is.

Interesting look on Cfs2 lately for January and February. 500mb https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=cfs-mon&region=namer&pkg=z500a&runtime=2025120800&fh=1 Temps https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=cfs-mon&region=us&pkg=T2ma&runtime=2025120800&fh=1 Precip https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=cfs-mon&region=us&pkg=apcpna_month&runtime=2025120800&fh=1 P.s. March may be acceptable too.

They probably cancelled class to lick the wounds from Saturday. Man, that 96 yard drive was magic and then just to lose it in OT. I have been rooting for the Hoos since 76, but have kids at JMU, so I guess that helps the loss a bit, but only a bit.

Pretty much my/my parents line up but I was able to watch the entire Carol Burnett show if I was able to stay awake. Tim. Conway, Harvey McCormick, Vicki Lawrence etc Shooting for 13F tonight....

Most models have a little bit of snow on Wednesday for approx. I-84 north, favoring elevation and especially latitude. This has been trending slightly colder for several days. I think it will be tough to accumulate much with a surface low near Lake Ontario... but considering Tue night is likely to be fairly cold, if precipitation comes in a quick burst I think there could be some minor accumulations before the boundary layer quickly warms. A slight model shift colder would help, but guidance has been very consistent curling up this shortwave west of us.

Dolphin is catchier...but it does kinda look like it's about to lay an egg out west (if we're talking about the duck-billed one, that is )

I know what you meant. We all read your insufferable banter daily...

Snow began at 5 am with 32 degrees. 8:30- 30.9 degrees with moderate snow and .70". My 4 model blend is 3 inches and Kuchera is 5.0" Kuchera may be more accurate because GFS and NAM say 850mb 14 F at 1 pm which gives a ratio of 15 - 20: 1

I’m thinking you’re correct on this matter. And if it is mild…it won’t last very long it looks like from that prog. But that’s 384 hrs away.

Depressing as h**l in here. Just note when this pic was taken- we all know what followed.

Don't know if it's lasts, but Cfs2 is liking the trough in SE/Southern Canada for January and February with BN temps in the NE both months and average precip in January and AN in February. 500mb https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=cfs-mon&region=namer&pkg=z500a&runtime=2025120800&fh=1 Temps https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=cfs-mon&region=us&pkg=T2ma&runtime=2025120800&fh=1 Precip https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=cfs-mon&region=us&pkg=apcpna_month&runtime=2025120800&fh=1

Clippers can happen in any ENSO state, I believe. It has just been over a decade since the last one hence my sarcastic "A CLIPPER?" If you look at it again, my statement was not about those but about the kind of outcome that happens with bigger storms in ninas with the NS and SS phasing too late and creating the kind of precip distribution that particular model run showed ...I was not referring to clippers when I said that.

Looks like typical climo to all of us.

So what’s your point? That Portsmouth is colder than Long Island? Lol…that’s a shocker. I get your saying that there’s a gradient, but the fact that SNE can’t seem to get some precip in here, isn’t a temp problem imo.