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am offline til 330. will consider NOW thread for NYC first measurable at 5, if other models join the HRRR and EC. Uncertain ptype an T.

Like you have said, it could be too much of a good thing. Reminds me of a couple winters ago when it got almost record cold around Christmas then the rest of the winter was a torch.

Indeed. Reliable posters on the southern end of our sub form such as @griteater are still enthused which is good for our area.

We will get our chances. This is the kind of pattern that doesn’t have any obvious long range threats. Instead stuff will appear 4-5 days out.

It might be the start of a trend. DC and Baltimore have been doing better than PHL/NYC/BOS since 2023-24. Then again, there was nowhere to go but up after the snow dearth in DC/Baltimore from 2016-17 to 2022-23.

Tuesday's clipper looks pretty strong, and should provide a good 3-6+" in MN/WI. ?? is for me...Lake Superior? What will it provide? Fickle beast

Garbage month. Had one decent snow event and a pretty decent ice storm near the end of the month.

Rain is bad too when so many others in the thread are enjoying snow...

have to say that overall this was fairly well predicted by the models, Euro gets props for having been the earliest and fairly consistent to predict that places even north of DC up to around I70 would get measurable stuff... and the timing of when it would begin and (soon) end was accurate as well. Some of the other models were late to the northern shift but did catch on as we got closer to the event.

Its funny to read Paul's post from some well-respected met about best December winter pattern in 10 years then actually look at guidance. Social media click bait 100%

Probably closer to 2" now but at the office so can't measure.

We might be able to slant stick to 1.0.

Well. That sucked. Nice coating of sleet/ZR. Now freezing fog at the store in Blowing Rock. Sent from my Pixel 10 Pro using Tapatalk

Bold of you to assume there will be a "next storm"

Up to 2" and in snow globe mode. Sky is brightening. (La Plata)

This is rich… my car is the one on the left…

There's no easy answer, although I agree that the DMA map (2nd map below) including the Lehigh Valley and Poconos seems off, as DMA's (Designated Market Areas - basically TV when it was broadcast TV in particular) are generally supposed to reflect where places get their local news/weather and I don't think most in the Lehigh Valley/Poconos are getting their local news/weather from NYC stations - thought these generally got this from Philly stations. On the other hand the metro statistical area map (first map below) doesn't include Warren County, which seems odd, as that county is definitely NYC-focused. Regardless the one thing I can say is that using the NWS CWA office maps for forums would be a disaster, as those aren't keyed into where people get their local news/weather at all. Best example of that is not having Middlesex County, which actually borders NYC, in the NYC NWS CWA - at a bare minimum any county bordering NYC ought to be in any NYC Metro weather forum (and NWS office).

Pixie dust snow here in Ivyland. 23f

Let’s be bare at 1k instead.

Winding down here now just SE of CHO. 3” on the button.

Same here, even a surprise dusting! 28F currently.

Record low temp of 5° at Detroit this morning, beating the old recordcof 6° from 1974. The DTW sensor seems to not be recording intra hour min/max, so i wonder if it may have dropped even lower.

DC has 1” before NYC or BOS even has measurable. Who would’ve had that on their bingo chart in a Nina winter.

I'm not thrilled skiing at Sundown disabled. The trail layout is not great. Either boring and flat or steep and icy. 70% of the runs funnel into Exhibition which gets crowded and icy. They don't make snow to resurface after a thaw. It is close by and handicapped parking is a short distance from the slopes

HRRR has snow showers tonight in nyc