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90°+ would be the warmer days during the summer. But past summers would have many days remaining in the 80s even during July. 2009 was our last cooler summer before the summers dramatically warmed since 2010. Only 1 day made it to 90° at the warm spots like Newark. Climatological Data for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - July 2009 Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Sum 2577 2028 - - 0 293 6.60 T - Average 83.1 65.4 74.3 -3.9 - - - - 0.0 Normal 86.9 69.4 78.2 - 0 408 4.66 0.0 2009-07-01 81 66 73.5 -3.5 0 9 0.00 0.0 0 2009-07-02 79 68 73.5 -3.7 0 9 0.23 T 0 2009-07-03 81 65 73.0 -4.4 0 8 0.08 0.0 0 2009-07-04 83 65 74.0 -3.5 0 9 0.00 0.0 0 2009-07-05 81 63 72.0 -5.7 0 7 0.00 0.0 0 2009-07-06 86 60 73.0 -4.8 0 8 0.00 0.0 0 2009-07-07 82 64 73.0 -4.9 0 8 0.11 0.0 0 2009-07-08 80 59 69.5 -8.6 0 5 0.00 0.0 0 2009-07-09 74 62 68.0 -10.2 0 3 0.00 0.0 0 2009-07-10 77 58 67.5 -10.7 0 3 0.00 0.0 0 2009-07-11 79 62 70.5 -7.8 0 6 0.24 0.0 0 2009-07-12 84 64 74.0 -4.4 0 9 0.03 0.0 0 2009-07-13 83 61 72.0 -6.4 0 7 0.00 0.0 0 2009-07-14 83 60 71.5 -7.0 0 7 0.00 0.0 0 2009-07-15 87 62 74.5 -4.0 0 10 0.00 0.0 0 2009-07-16 91 71 81.0 2.5 0 16 0.00 0.0 0 2009-07-17 88 69 78.5 0.0 0 14 0.07 0.0 0 2009-07-18 86 70 78.0 -0.5 0 13 T 0.0 0 2009-07-19 85 63 74.0 -4.5 0 9 0.00 0.0 0 2009-07-20 83 67 75.0 -3.5 0 10 0.00 0.0 0 2009-07-21 73 65 69.0 -9.5 0 4 0.78 0.0 0 2009-07-22 82 65 73.5 -5.0 0 9 0.00 0.0 0 2009-07-23 79 65 72.0 -6.4 0 7 0.14 0.0 0 2009-07-24 83 65 74.0 -4.4 0 9 0.00 0.0 0 2009-07-25 84 64 74.0 -4.3 0 9 0.07 0.0 0 2009-07-26 87 69 78.0 -0.3 0 13 1.03 T 0 2009-07-27 86 69 77.5 -0.7 0 13 0.18 0.0 0 2009-07-28 87 72 79.5 1.3 0 15 T 0.0 0 2009-07-29 85 73 79.0 0.9 0 14 2.97 T 0 2009-07-30 89 73 81.0 2.9 0 16 0.00 0.0 0 2009-07-31 89 69 79.0 1.0 0 14 0.67 0.0 0

NWS now calling for 1" or more of rain Tuesday - Wednesday here. Nice!

Yeah, the much warmer temperatures at places like Boston separates this record low 7 year run from previous well below average streaks. The 7 year period ending in 1992 was several degrees colder. So much of that periods lower snowfall was related to issues other than temperatures being too warm. This is why it’s unlikely that Boston will see 3 seasons before this decade is out with 83” to 107” snow. Since this much warmer climate would struggle to produce such high totals in quick succession like 1992-1993 to 1995-1996 did. This is why it will be more challenging for Boston and other l-95 cities to the south to end this current much lower snowfall period like they did back in the early to mid-90s without a major VEI 7 or larger volcanic eruption to cool the climate down temporarily. Boston average snowfall 2019-2025….26.6”……DJF average temperature….34.6° Boston average snowfall 1986-1992….29.9”……DJF average temperature….32.2° Outstanding seasons following that lower snowfall period which ended the 7 year low 1992-1993…..83.9”……31.4° 1993-1994…..96.3”……27.8° 1995-1996…..107.6”……30.9°

Do you have a reference for this? Per the articles below, we have had larger crops due to technology improvement not climate change. The impact of climate change depends on the crop and region. No large net impacts so far. On a global average, doesn't look like a disaster in the future either; but, some regions and crops may have significant negative impacts. Also need to consider extreme events which will pack a bigger punch in a warmer world. A bad year can be destabilizing regionally. https://ourworldindata.org/crop-yields-climate-impact https://ourworldindata.org/will-climate-change-affect-crop-yields-future

ICON..... More like I'CANT!

0z ICON goes from drought to floods

You're thinking of the October 2011 event. Highly elevation dependent snow event for a good chunk of the Northeast and Mid Atlantic. The rest of the winter was total garbage as you said.

I’m cool with that. Op would just need to change the title.

For the pumpkin 0Z UK: similar to 12Z with the recurve NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 108 HOURS FORECAST POSITION AT T+108 : 15.2N 53.0W LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS) -------------- ---- -------- ------------- ------------- 1200UTC 08.10.2025 108 15.2N 53.0W 1009 36 0000UTC 09.10.2025 120 17.2N 56.5W 1010 32 1200UTC 09.10.2025 132 19.0N 59.6W 1010 30 0000UTC 10.10.2025 144 20.1N 61.4W 1010 26 1200UTC 10.10.2025 156 21.4N 62.9W 1010 29 0000UTC 11.10.2025 168 23.2N 63.8W 1009 27

The UKMET (2nd run in a row) has the Bahamas lemon become a TC: The 0Z UKMET has itbecome a TD at 168, when it is in the NW Bahamas: NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 168 HOURS FORECAST POSITION AT T+168 : 26.1N 77.8W LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS) -------------- ---- -------- ------------- ------------- 0000UTC 11.10.2025 168 26.1N 77.8W 1007 33

Would it be possible, for continuity purposes, to incorporate it in the “two lemon” thread since most of the posts, including model output, are for the tropical ATL wave?

I think the homes there are built to handle it.

if I remember correctly - we had a Halloween snow in the NYC area last decade (the Army football game at West Point that day was a winter wonderland - and Central Park was just absolutely filled with downed branches after) - and that led to a winter with virtually no snow.

First 30's this morning...10 days ahead of last year. Looks warm coming up the next few days then off to Sacramento next week to get pretty much the exact same weather.

Low 39, high 72 here. Perfect day.

Thinking the tropical Atlantic wave could be thread worthy tomorrow. Signal for it continues to be robust.

You are 100% correct. The initial January rug pull and the Feb heart breaker kept.us from greatness. If both we like 5"-9" storms then we wouldve been golden.

I would bet on it! Extremely warm Pacific Waters Record Breaking actually, Record Breaking Gul of Mexico Water Temps for September and October all time, and a toasty southwestern Atlantic we are pretty screwed east of the Appalachians warm air flooding in all directions.

87 both yesterday and today at MSP. Temps actually underperformed a bit today versus guidance. Tomorrow is our best shot at an October 90 with blast furnace winds from the south.

Highs: EWR: 75 TEB: 74 New Brnswck: 74 LGA: 72 PHL: 72 TTN: 72 BLM: 72 ISP: 71 NYC: 71 ACY: 70 JFK: 69

I'm craving a good early season coastal storm. Give me 2.5" of wind driven 43 degrees rain Sent from my SM-G970U1 using Tapatalk

Still looks fairly close. Both the blend with and without 2007 are decent US temp profile matches for Sept 2025.

Guess so. I dont consider it chilly until at least in the 40s or 50s. This morning was chilly here and 45. 67 is pleasant

Hahaha, I haven't had signatures turned on in like 10 years, I totally forgot I had it