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Probably will be a bit quite for a while...unless the GFS is to be believed

I try to stay away but the 6 dollar meal deal gets me sometimes on my hour and a half drive home from work haha

Remember, I'm ~45 miles in and at 700 feet so nights are cold. I think I undershot and therefore underbudgeted for the cold 3 months and with the pop in oil (and diesel) prices it's a bad time to be stuck buying enough for 6 cold weeks when I probably only need 30-50 more gallons.

…it’s the icon so does it even matter?

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It would be the first solidly AN month for temps since September.

I hear ya on the maps though…we’ve made fun of them for a decade. Water pouring out of hillsides yet they paint everyone in D1.

I think he just knows in general how unhealthy that shit he peddles is. He banks on people being dumb enough to make it part of their regular diet, and so they have to suffer the health consequences. Capitalism at its worst.

Been busy all day. It’s happening. One more adventure guys. One more folks.

Yeah I know--it was just that line made me think the whole thing was a joke, lol I hope he recovers as well.

Alright, got some info from my supervisor...so first of all there were no weather observers here from Fall of 1996 to Spring of 2000. Any snowfall data from 2000 to 2012 is also not from CWO's but from the Air National Guard about a mile northeast of where we're situated now. When we were in Terminal B there was no place to measure snow accurately. He isn't sure if the data (assuming there is any) from 96-00 was also measured there since he didn't start working here til a little bit after obviously since there were no observers at all. One thing to keep in mind is that the measurements were often inaccurate. For instance, in the Halloween 2011 storm ANG measured 8" but my supervisor said it was more like 11 or 12"

Yep I’ve mentioned that. Different story there.

It’s real and it sucks up here…not as bad south of the NH border.

I mean idk, maybe that’s why the CEO took such a small bite.

it said it only had 36 inches of snow cover, that looks like 60

People are glomming onto drought because there are no other headlines to make this engagement a dopa hit right now, Scott

That’s why I said at least around here.

Saturday March 20th has an absurdly low record high of 66 in Minneapolis. Mid/upper 70s in the days surrounding. I think we tag 70 and I’ll be on the ski hill for closing weekend.

Hmm

It’s already been a torch month for virtually the entire CONUS and aside from the brief early week cold shot, will continue to torch (except for the far northeast perhaps). Doesn’t need to be 2012 to be defined as a “torch”.

While you are correct that we should all pay attention, there was little reason IMO for public/private businesses to shut doors at 1-2pm. While you cant put a real value on loss of life, the signs just really didn't look THAT ominous. Secondly for those of us who had to buck it up and ride the storm out from our cars/work whatevs.... knowing that the real show wasn't to start after rush hour (here in east central/eastern locals), that wasn't a good look and one where distrust can fester from. Tough calls, but I agree, the misinformation shown on soc. media, didnt help AT ALL.

The final countdown

MDT vs. CXY: Quantifying the Bias Between Harrisburg's Two ASOS Stations (and Why It Matters for the Pre-1991 Record) Something that doesn't get talked about much in discussions of Harrisburg climatology is that the "official" record changed stations in October 1991 — from Capital City Airport (CXY, Fairview Township, York County) to Harrisburg International (MDT, Lower Swatara Township, Dauphin County/Susquehanna floodplain) — and that switch was made with no homogeneity adjustment whatsoever. The ThreadEx composite that most people pull from ACIS just splices them together at that date and calls it a day. I decided to actually quantify the bias using the 2001–2025 overlap period, when both stations were running reliably as ASOS units. 25 years of IEM daily data, both stations. Here's what I found. --- PRECIPITATION MDT runs wetter than CXY every single month except April, with an annual median ratio of 1.106 — meaning MDT receives roughly 11% more precipitation per year (43.3" vs. 38.4" mean over the overlap). The ratio is most consistent and statistically tight in winter (DJF ratio 1.126, tight bootstrap CI), which makes sense — synoptic-scale systems produce more uniform precipitation and the floodplain position at MDT reliably enhances totals. The widest uncertainty is in the summer convective months (Jun–Sep CI spans nearly 0.3), reflecting the high year-to-year variance when a single tropical remnant or MCS can hit one site much harder than the other. September has the largest single-month ratio at 1.164. April is the odd one out at 0.988 — essentially no bias. Spring frontal/stratiform precipitation appears to be the most spatially uniform regime between these two sites. The implication for ThreadEx is that the unadjusted splice at October 1991 introduces approximately an 11% step-down in precipitation when you cross back into the pre-1991 CXY period. Any trend analysis using that composite without adjustment is going to be systematically affected. --- TEMPERATURE The temperature story is more interesting than the precipitation one. Max temp is straightforward — MDT runs cooler than CXY all 12 months, ranging from −0.19°F in summer to −0.97°F in January. River valley moderating daytime heating, nothing surprising. Min temp is where it gets physically interesting: the offset reverses sign seasonally. MDT runs cooler than CXY in winter (as low as −0.71°F in February) but warmer in summer (+1.09°F in July). The crossover is right around April, which is near zero (+0.03°F). What you're seeing is the competing effects of cold air drainage into the Susquehanna floodplain in winter (making MDT colder at night) versus the river's thermal mass keeping the MDT boundary layer warmer on summer nights. CXY sits on a ridge position in Fairview Township at ~106m and apparently drains cold air off efficiently in winter while losing the river's moderating influence in summer. It's a textbook valley-versus-upland nocturnal temperature signature and it comes through cleanly in 25 years of data. --- DEWPOINT AND RH MDT runs higher dewpoint and RH than CXY all 12 months — no sign reversal here. The Susquehanna just keeps MDT moister year-round. The RH offset is largest in winter (DJF +3.68%) and smallest in summer (JJA +1.69%), which probably reflects the relative importance of the river moisture source versus atmospheric moisture demand across seasons. --- PRACTICAL UPSHOT If you're doing any work with the Harrisburg long-period record — trend studies, climatological normals, CAD research, whatever — and you're pulling ThreadEx without thinking about this, you should be aware of the discontinuity. The pre-1991 CXY record can be adjusted to MDT-equivalent using monthly multiplicative ratios for precipitation and additive offsets for temperature/dewpoint, derived from the overlap period. The adjustment is stable enough (particularly in the cool season) that I'm reasonably confident applying it back through the CXY record to 1939. Happy to share the Excel adjustment factor table if anyone wants — monthly ratios with bootstrap CIs, plus seasonal summaries broken out by DJF/MAM/JJA/SON. Sent from my SM-S731U using Tapatalk

At a certain point you can't hand hold the public. They either start to get it or they experience the consequences of not. My take is they are going to do whatever they want and if it goes wrong in any way they look to first person other than themselves to blame. Whatever it is that introduced this rot into our cultures era specific mindset needs to be ruthlessly scrubbed out. Sent from my SM-S731U using Tapatalk

IDK, almost 40” of snow on the ground a few weeks ago and almost 2.5” of rain yesterday and I don’t see much in the way of runoff while driving around and not many basement pumping calls came in yesterday…..I think we are drier than you think