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The 18Z GFS suggests an inch or two of snow for many including the SW Mountains. It certainly looks like an expressive shot of Canadian air arrives Monday into Wednesday!

FYI, this winter thus far has two interesting parallels to the winter of 1989-90 in the Mid-Atlantic. (1) A major consecutive day streak in which the maximum temperature failed to reach the freezing mark at DCA: December 16-25, 1989 and January 24-February 1, 2026 (2) A March mini heat wave in which the maximum temperature soared way above normal at DCA: March 12-16, 1990 maximums were 89, 87, 86, 81 and 81 and March 8-12, 2026 maximums were 76, 76, 84, 86, and 78 So, what happened right after the March 1990 mini heat wave? Several minor snow events between March 20-April 7, 1990 totaling 0.2 inches at RIC, 2.6 at DCA, 2.8 at BWI, and 10.4 at IAD.

I might actually have saved text files for the biggest storms from the early and mid 90s (PNS and other bulletins). I'll get to that in the next few days, along w/ stuff from individual storms from New England snow books that cover every year from the early 70s to the mid 90s.

2 members 48" in State College.

They usually develop further east in Nino 3 and Nino 1+2, because on average there is cooler water there. If the whole area is neutralizing (average state is trade winds and colder SSTs along the equator), then the biggest difference is further east.

Light snow up here at WXW2. Pack almost gone in my snow depth area.

Thanks I didn't know that I'll take a look. Do those exist for BOX for the 95-96 season? Specially jan 1996 blizzard? If they do I'll have to redo a lot of those events pre 1997 or so

Perhaps the mega snow weenies on this group can shed some light here. Snow total reports that always had bugged me from the Dec 11-12, 1992 blockbuster (the one that started it all - meaning ending the overall "lame" snow period 1978-79 to 1991-92 for the most epic period ev-A!) Below is the NWS BOS summary for the storm. The 48" report at Savoy and Plainfield MA I find suspicious, esp. since they are both at an even 4 feet! Also, the 40" at Sandisfield, next town over in Otis had 33" and both towns are very close in elevation. I can believe 36" max from this storm, but not 40"+. On Dec 3 there was a big snowstorm in the Berkshires w/ 19" at Monterey and 15" at Peru (side note: that 19" was the highest single storm snowfall in MA in nearly 5 years), so I have to wonder if the 40"+ totals were a result of including previous SOG. This was before the NWS modernization, which started in SNE late 1993. Before this time, spotter training was not organized and they did not aggressively reach out to the public ("send us your reports!") for wx events. So how snow was measured was all over the place and not standardized. This is significant b/c we can count on one hand how many times since the late 19th century SNE has had single storm snowfalls 40" or larger. Only two I know of prior to 1992 -- 1888 and 1978, the 100 hr storm in Feb 1969 was really close - 39" at Rockport MA). OTHER PUBLIC PRODUCTS..FINAL CORRECTED STORM ESTIMATES.. NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BOSTON MA 805 PM EST MON DEC 14 1992 TOTAL ACCUMULATIONS FROM THE DECEMBER 11...12 1992 SNOW STORM. WORCESTER NWS 32.1 BLUE HILL NWS 16 BOSTON NWS 9.2 HARTFORD NWS 5.1 PROVIDENCE NWS 3.5 SPECIAL OBSERVERS TO THE NWS THROUGH PRIVATE SECTOR/DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION NETWORKS. WHILE THIS WAS AN ELEVATION SNOWSTORM IN WESTERN MASSACHUSETTS... CONNECTICUT AND RHODE ISLAND...ENOUGH COLD AIR ENTERED THE PICTURE SATURDAY MORNING TO TURN THIS INTO A GENERAL SNOWSTORM...ALBEIT A WET AND MANAGEABLE SNOW...EVEN FOR LOWER ELEVATIONS OF INTERIOR EASTERN MASSACHUSETTS. ****CORRECTIONS TO ADD DRACUT/MEDWAY/MARBLEHEAD...ADJUST PEABODY/ ARLINGTON SAVOY 48 PLAINFIELD 48 SANDISFIELD 40 ADAMS 36 OTIS 33 PITTSFIELD 30 HOPKINTON 28 NORTH ADAMS 24 PHILLIPSTON 24 FRAMINGHAM 24 MEDWAY 22 DRACUT 20 LOWELL 20 BLACKSTONE 20 GROVELAND 20 LEOMINSTER 18 WESTBOROUGH 18 WOBURN 18 GEORGETOWN 16 BILLERICA 16 TEWKSBURY 16 ARLINGTON 16 PEABODY 16 HAVERHILL 14 PEPPERELL 13 METHUEN 13 MAYNARD 13 CANTON 11 BROCKTON 11 FOXBORO 10 WESTFIELD (BAF) 7 NEWBURY 6 BEVERLY 6 TAUNTON 6 MANSFIELD 5 MARBLEHEAD TRACE ON THE NECK TO 4 INCHES INTERIOR ACUSHNET 3 MIDDLEBOROUGH 3 NORTH AMHERST 3 CHICOPEE FALLS 2

Peak wind gusts from last night and this morning... 65MPH - ORD 60MPH - MDW 62MPH - RFD

As we should at that point…really?

Yellow alert; tracking another 2 week phantom storm....WB 18Z GEFS

You were under some of that convection, or you're just getting wind/rain

If it is a super El Nino, could it just be a basin wide event? What does history show us with super El Ninos?

Happy Anniversary 33 years ago right now

Prognosticator of prognosticators. LOL

Surprised nobody is mentioning the potential severe weather activity on Day-4

Yeah, just kinda looks to me like it closed off Its feed of cooler dry air to the meso and you're just seeing what's left of it getting pinch to the center, and that's also probably what killed any chance of it forming a tornado. I could be completely wrong because I don't have access to watch it again and can't see the whole storm in the images. I included a picture of a cell below that is showing circulation beginning to dog leg. You can see the mesocyclone, catching up with the rear flank of the precipitation core and eventually, if they merge and you catch it at the right moment, that close off point can certainly can be confused for a debris ball. I want to reiterate that this is not our super sell from the other day. This is just one I chose for the dog leg.

It's like a bomb went off with all the downed trees. This may be the worst wind I have ever experienced.

Before the NWS started issuing PNSs, they used OPUs (other public products). Reports from the early-mid 90s from BOS and PVD can be found here. https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/wx/afos/old.phtml Enter OPUBOS and OPUPVD and go back 1500 bulletins. Most notable is totals from the Dec 11-12, 1992 blockbuster (not one CoastalWx wants to recall b/c of how screwed he got in Brockton! LOL.) OTHER PUBLIC PRODUCTS..FINAL CORRECTED STORM ESTIMATES.. NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BOSTON MA 805 PM EST MON DEC 14 1992 TOTAL ACCUMULATIONS FROM THE DECEMBER 11...12 1992 SNOW STORM. WORCESTER NWS 32.1 BLUE HILL NWS 16 BOSTON NWS 9.2 HARTFORD NWS 5.1 PROVIDENCE NWS 3.5 SPECIAL OBSERVERS TO THE NWS THROUGH PRIVATE SECTOR/DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION NETWORKS. WHILE THIS WAS AN ELEVATION SNOWSTORM IN WESTERN MASSACHUSETTS... CONNECTICUT AND RHODE ISLAND...ENOUGH COLD AIR ENTERED THE PICTURE SATURDAY MORNING TO TURN THIS INTO A GENERAL SNOWSTORM...ALBEIT A WET AND MANAGEABLE SNOW...EVEN FOR LOWER ELEVATIONS OF INTERIOR EASTERN MASSACHUSETTS. ****CORRECTIONS TO ADD DRACUT/MEDWAY/MARBLEHEAD...ADJUST PEABODY/ ARLINGTON SAVOY 48 PLAINFIELD 48 SANDISFIELD 40 ADAMS 36 OTIS 33 PITTSFIELD 30 HOPKINTON 28 NORTH ADAMS 24 PHILLIPSTON 24 FRAMINGHAM 24 MEDWAY 22 DRACUT 20 LOWELL 20 BLACKSTONE 20 GROVELAND 20 LEOMINSTER 18 WESTBOROUGH 18 WOBURN 18 GEORGETOWN 16 BILLERICA 16 TEWKSBURY 16 ARLINGTON 16 PEABODY 16 HAVERHILL 14 PEPPERELL 13 METHUEN 13 MAYNARD 13 CANTON 11 BROCKTON 11 FOXBORO 10 WESTFIELD (BAF) 7 NEWBURY 6 BEVERLY 6 TAUNTON 6 MANSFIELD 5 MARBLEHEAD TRACE ON THE NECK TO 4 INCHES INTERIOR ACUSHNET 3 MIDDLEBOROUGH 3 NORTH AMHERST 3 CHICOPEE FALLS 2

Not a flake Zzzzzzzzz

Yeah it looks pretty bad, but its also the RRFS @ 84

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Your welcome .

Thanks!!