gallopinggertie

Okay but human agriculture has only been around during a very narrow range of global average temperature, which is much cooler than the vast majority of those 65 million years without reaching the coldest extremes of the current Ice Age. I don't think we want to see how our civilization would do at Eocene-like temperatures. And on top of that, it's the rapidity of the change that's so troubling. It would be much easier to cope with a ten foot sea level rise over 2,000 years than over 200 years. Not making any specific predictions here, just giving an example. Humans are adaptable, but we have our limits.

Storm Daniel formed over the Ionian Sea and moved over the Balkan Peninsula as an extratropical storm before moving southeast over the Mediterranean, acquiring tropical characteristics, and making landfall yesterday near Benghazi, Libya, as a tropical storm, according to Wikipedia. Daniel is an example of a medicane--a storm in the Mediterranean Sea with subtropical or tropical traits. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_Daniel#/media/File:Daniel_2023-09-09_1200Z.jpg It looks like Daniel had deep convection before making landfall. SST's near the coast of Libya are pretty high now, at around 27 degrees Celsius: http://www.ceam.es/ceamet/SST/index.html Daniel caused terrible damage in Libya upon making landfall. Yet the NHC doesn't track storms in the Mediterranean, and I'm not aware of any other tropical agency that does. Was Daniel really tropical? Should the NHC issue advisories for storms in the Mediterranean? This is a sea that is mostly enclosed by land, mostly isolated from the rest of the Atlantic Ocean, and yet still technically part of that ocean.