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64 degrees this Christmas morning at my house. A/C even kicked back on. Gross.

Gimme your thoughts on the fickle warm finger?

Merry Christmas!

Death, taxes and a cutter the week leading up to Christmas.

HRRR was a banger for NYC metro at 6z, def coming in NE this run.. hopefully gets SNE good, would be the first meso to look like the globals..

I think you get your biggest snow this season. Merry Christmas

Ice for quite sometime west of 95 till it gets into upper 30’s

Merry Christmas all

Thanks!

Merry Xmas to all! Kids are already done opening gifts over here. Smiles a mile wide.

Merry Christmas All! May the snow gods be with us this upcoming year!

Imagine the chaotic forecast the NWS would have if they just used Modelology, and not Meteorology. Changing their forecast every couple hrs, when a new model run comes out. It would be ridiculous, and no one would pay them any mind.

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Lasts nights moves didn’t continue at 6z. Congrats to CT, we’ll be hoping for some scraps. going to be another event where we probably end up with bare ground after

They are broadcasting to an entire region of the country. They cannot sway back and forth. If the models continue to pull back for three consecutive runs, they will slowly reduce their forecasts. A bunch of weather enthusiasts call it "saving face," but it's actually been a standard for a long time. Public safety is their number one concern, so a bust isnt actually a bad outcome in terms of forecasting for a government agency. Agree though, this is trending wayyyyyy N and somewhat E.

@CoastalWx I can’t believe there’s still people peddling 6-12 and 8-12 forecasts for the NYC metro area. They are going to bust hard. The QPF never supported those amounts, the ratios never supported it and now the new meso model runs (high res RGEM and 3K/12K NAM) are showing a very strong mid-level warm nose and turn it into a sleet-a-rama even well north and west of the city

Those of us who have no interest in tomorrow do.

Merry. Christmas all! Thanks for allowing me to post again. I am fortunate to have great people on this forum that I never met in person just by name!

Ya…who cares about that one now..we take what we can from tomorrow, and savor it like crazy. Not letting Monday steal any joy from me at all.

Merry Christmas, all!

The GFS IMHO continues to be a bit of an outlier as it forms and breaks down the NAO rapidly. I can’t find another model doing that. I can’t remember which model handles the NAO better. Who know? It might be right. The GEM is another adamant outlier outlier with its solution. I would guess it continues to trend towards a NE cold shot vs Deep South. But it has a good habit of finding cold fronts, albeit too intense with its solutions. The Euro looks like good middle ground - for now. I would not be surprised to see models trend colder after a warming trend over night. We have entered that 5-7 day window where things get lost. Also, it would not be surprising if models were simply too quick with the cold. I am noticing a trend to send the cold on Jan 5 instead of 2nd….even the 8th. Models are bouncing between those dates. Remember in late November that modeling had the cold, lost it, and then brought it back. I would not be surprised if we see something similar now. Been kind of a weird year with model biases and feedback. With the exception of the GFS, other modeling has the NAO. So, a great sign that it is still present. I think it is the Euro which eliminates the Aleutian high late in its run. Either way, Merry Christmas to all of you! Have a great day!!!

Flurries here. Pretty cool.

Yeah that one is taking a steamer in our figgy pudding.