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To be fair, hasn’t snowed much in the last few years.

Reality, but still a total buzz kill.

Not me. Been there, done that

Classic CAD setup which denies the coast of the torch. So despite it being warm just about everywhere else, we’ll constantly hear about how it’s “not a torch” because the most important cities in America will be cooler.

NG bulls want the opposite of this EPS HDD trajectory (see left graph): the cold part through 12/15 was dialed in to prices many days ago:

I want a roll call of everyone that would take 40° and 1” of rain over 29° and .50” of ice on Christmas Day. A trip to the in-laws can wait a day.

https://s2s.worldclimateservice.com/climatepanel/ Then click on 2nd map on right.

My grid now has less than 1” forecast. It was 1-2” this am.

If I never saw 0.25 or more of ice again it'd be too soon cause I'm the guy who has to go clear our trail system after, 98 was pure devastation up here, you can keep that all south of the Pike as far as I'm concerned

Thanks! Where do you find that? Been interested in the PDO because of how much the negative state screwed with snow chances the last decade.

Our man! Part of the crew kicked into the back room at JJ Foleys in 2009.

Updated video on Sunday's storm and a look ahead in the extended. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lE-tz3FZDU

Exactly my thoughts. Getting a system to take a track south of us may be asking a lot but any HP to the north should be a legit airmass.

Snow has stopped, may move back south tonight into the morning but it will be light and forecast to be less than an inch. More shoveling on my lunch break, measured 10” in a more sheltered place (lower rot ground and blocked by the planter) and 11” on the picnic table, going with 11” for my unofficial measurement.

You would too. Without a 2nd thought

See late in the euro as an example. Assume we get nothing else for at least 10-14 days after Sunday, but stranger things have happened.

Thats why I think the warm pattern will be brief and somewhat muted.

Man, you can bet on that 50° weather between the 20th and 30th of December every year. For reference when I was a kid in the 80s and 90s, we went to Lake Placid every year the day after Christmas…. And it was always reliably, cold and snowy. The changes particularly in the latter half of December have been astounding in my lifetime

Few years ago we had snow to ice on Christmas Eve. It was not bad.

As @MAG5035 just alluded to, CTP is confident in the map they released below for western PA. They are far less confident in what happens in the SE overnight tomorrow.

WCS: Pretty steady for now but still within a longer term (6 month) rise: