Baroclinic Zone Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I don't know who is right or wrong, but big storms bring out the excited slant stickers. Happens all the time. To be quite honest, who gives a !@#$. Boils down to envy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 To be quite honest, who gives a !@#$. Boils down to envy. lol...they were people from the same area disputing the measurement...not people from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 28/8 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Does not suck. HPC seems to be going with these ensembles in their graphics. I like the isobaric bulge to the west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 lol...they were people from the same area disputing the measurement...not people from here. I never said anything about people from here. Some people will always be envious of others when they receive more snow. It's a strange complex that I for one will never understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I never said anything about people from here. Some people will always be envious of others when they receive more snow. It's a strange complex that I for one will never understand. Those people just want the big snow. When people 50 miles away get clocked, it definitely will spur some weenie jealousy. I get disappointed if someone close by gets crushed with snow, and I'm left with a few inches, but at this stage of my life....it's more of a "It is what it is" type mentality. No sense of getting bent out of shape....that was for my younger years..lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I never said anything about people from here. Some people will always be envious of others when they receive more snow. It's a strange complex that I for one will never understand. I agree in general, but I don't think it's the case here. It was mostly Jake and Analog who are from the same general area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I agree in general, but I don't think it's the case here. It was mostly Jake and Analog who are from the same general area. It's a pointless argument given the nature of the storm as we have seen countless times around these parts. All it takes is one band over the span of a couple hours to make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 12z runs a rollin'. See if we see any trends on the location of the ULL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 It's a pointless argument given the nature of the storm as we have seen countless times around these parts. All it takes is one band over the span of a couple hours to make a difference. Some people are bad at snow measurement too...we've seen plenty of times on this board when someone measured way higher than surrounding areas...it's a tough endeavor in a blizzard anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Some people are bad at snow measurement too...we've seen plenty of times on this board when someone measured way higher than surrounding areas...it's a tough endeavor in a blizzard anyway. Neighborhood to neighborhood you can see significant differences in snowfall around here, no way to compare your totals with anyone elses -in the hills anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Neighborhood to neighborhood you can see significant differences in snowfall around here, no way to compare your totals with anyone elses -in the hills anyway. There was about a 4" difference over 3 miles of ground in this last storm. And that was only a 6-8" storm,get up to a 25" and as you mentioned there can be huge differences. In a lot of ways our totals in SNE can vary as much as what you see in the lake effect snows because of the ocean enhancement and banding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Some people are bad at snow measurement too...we've seen plenty of times on this board when someone measured way higher than surrounding areas...it's a tough endeavor in a blizzard anyway. One of the things that people can do..and this is more for those living near a reliable ASOS, is to look at the visibility reported. In general 1/2sm would mean about 1" per hour.. 0.75" may be more like 0.5 to 0.75" per hour...etc. It provides a good way of double checking your snowfall, especially if you are not home. Like anything, it's not perfect, but at least it provides a way to back up your total I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Neighborhood to neighborhood you can see significant differences in snowfall around here, no way to compare your totals with anyone elses -in the hills anyway. Some people's snow measurement are still suspect...you can't just hand wave and say well you can't compare..oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I don't know who is right or wrong, but big storms bring out the excited slant stickers. Happens all the time. Well, From what i gathered, It kind of sounded like there was some drift sticking it seems, It was a tough storm for sure to measure as i had six areas i used that were non drifted areas and felt that i was accurate as i could have been, But there are instances that i have seen or read where totals were inflated and even placing rulers upside down, And like you said it happens all the time and will happen again......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Some people's snow measurement are still suspect...you can't just hand wave and say well you can't compare..oh well You are correct, sometimes snowfall measurements that are done incorrectly get thrown into the mix. my point was smal microscale issues can have a huge impact. EX: My frontyard is the beginning of a hilltop and has 1-5" left with heavy heavy piles, my backyard and woods (460' down to 370' ele) is practiaclly bare. The hillside is east facing and was blown relatively clean in the latter part of last storm. the backyard depth is <1" , frontyard and top of hill overall averages somewhere around 2 to 2.5". That's two conflicting snowfall totals in less than 1/8 a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Some people's snow measurement are still suspect...you can't just hand wave and say well you can't compare..oh well A month ago I had a discussion with someone into climo. If you go back over the last 30 years and look at snowstorm "size" its up about 30% in the northeast over the last 10-15 years during the internet age. But that doesn't carry to official reporting stations where the difference is within the noise. Is it that all these storms are hitting non-official stations, that there are fewer stations, that we are capturing data better now or something else? Who knows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattlacroix4 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Incredible how the 30 inches of snow in NJ and NY is melted already, wow. Makes me glad I do not live down there, since I like a snow pack on the ground. 5 inches survived here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toller65 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 PRELIMINARY EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 900 AM EST MON JAN 03 2011 VALID 12Z FRI JAN 07 2011 - 12Z MON JAN 10 2011 THE MAIN ALTERATION TO THE UPDATED PRELIM PROGS WAS TO ADJUST SWWD A POSSIBLE MAJOR STORM ALONG THE NRN MID ATLANTIC COAST IN THE DAY 4-6 FRI-SUN TIME FRAME. WHILE THE DETERMINISTIC ECMWF IS A RATHER EXTREME SWRN OUTLIER IN DROPPING A PIECE OF POLAR VORTEX SSE ALL THE WAY FROM HUDSON BAY TO VA...THE 06Z/03 GFS HAS TRENDED A BIT TOWARDS THE ECMWF SOLUTION SAT...GIVING A NEWD ADJUSTED ECMWF SCENARIO SOME CREDIBILITY. THIS MAINTAINS REASONABLE HPC CONTINUITY WITH THIS POTENTIAL E COAST SYS OVER THE PAST TWO DAYS WHILE NOT OVERPLAYING ANALOGS...I STILL WANT TO POINT OUT SOME SIMILARITY IN THE PRESENT HPC SCENARIO THIS WEEKEND TO THAT OF FEB 6 1978...ESPECIALLY AT 500 MILLIBARS...WHICH WAS A MAJOR BLIZZARD FOR ERN PA/NY/NEW ENG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Represent represent...all this for the runner up to WOTY... http://www.americanw...post__p__215652 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Represent represent...all this for the runner up to WOTY... http://www.americanw...post__p__215652 LOL. That's funny sh*t. I had no idea that people were so into that. The excel matrix is crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 23.3F Kev will always be the King of the Weenies to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 we have the DGEX and the JMA. all we need is the KMA to la-la-la-lock it up You FTL Kevin has infiltrated the subforums of other regions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Kevin has infiltrated the subforums of other regions. I am everywhere..see feel me fear me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 I am everywhere..see feel me fear me rather not...but when some dude named Thunder Toad or something is quoting you, you have hit the big time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 rather not...but when some dude named Thunder Toad or something is quoting you, you have hit the big time I'm all in go big or go home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Couple shots I took while XC Skiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Why TGR smokes Warren Miller films off the hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Why TGR smokes Warren Miller films off the hill. Just your run of the mill 107m cliff jump. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkZ7Tyf7_YM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Why TGR smokes Warren Miller films off the hill. beautiful, sage and seth are two of my favorite skiers. Just bought the Seth Morrison pro model Full Tilts...$600 later! Beautiful shot right there, beautiful line. and now for something a little more my style mute the volume... <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDdOUexGuRM?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDdOUexGuRM?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDdOUexGuRM?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object> <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49PmN3MIo1U?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49PmN3MIo1U?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49PmN3MIo1U?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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