October 2026 general discussion

[Brewbeer]

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It may drip into the 30’s/40’s, but rises to 90’s/100’s. Is that a cold airmass or a hot airmass?

I'd say that is a cold airmass at night, and a hot airmass during the day.

Any other characterization can be considered "fake"

1 minute ago, Typhoon Tip said:

This is incorrect logic in the empirical sense of reality. 

to be expected, the air is thin at elevation, negatively affects congition

[Typhoon Tip]

10 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

The airmass is not real . It’s not a cold airmass . A cold airmass stays cold during the day and doesn’t have 40 degree diurnals. Folks need to try to understand that 

This is why you are prone to believing fake news ... 

Reality is not what you want, or want to accept.  It is, and you can decide whether you want to be realistic, or reside in some deluded state. 

The air temperature is 35, and if that is sensibly considered cold to the observer, it is a cold air mass. End of debate.

Whether that air mass then rises to 70 that afternoon or not, doesn't change the fact... if/when that happens, the air mass is then a warm air mass. 

That's it.  there is nothing else.

[powderfreak]

5 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

The airmass is not real . It’s not a cold airmass . A cold airmass stays cold during the day and doesn’t have 40 degree diurnals. Folks need to try to understand that 

It's not a hot air mass either though.  Why don't we call it fake warmth?

Every air mass a cold one if you go up high enough.

[Damage In Tolland]

Just now, powderfreak said:

It's not a hot air mass either though.  Why don't we call it fake warmth?

We can and we do. This heat this afternoon is born of the same fake cloth. It’s just some folks get panties bunched and tussled over frosts so it’s talked about much more .

[Damage In Tolland]

3 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

This is why you are prone to believing fake news ... 

Reality is not what you want, or want to accept.  It is, and you can decide whether you want to be realistic, or reside in some deluded state. 

The air temperature is 35, and that is sensibly consider cold to the observer, it is a cold air mass. End of debate.

Whether that air mass then rises to 70 that afternoon or not, doesn't change the fact... if/when that happens, the air mass is then a warm air mass. 

That it.  there is nothing else.

You are not grasping or understanding and that’s ok. Move along now ya hear?

[WinterWolf]

1 minute ago, powderfreak said:

It's not a hot air mass either though.  Why don't we call it fake warmth?

Lmfao…it’s amazing he can’t understand this.  I said this earlier…maybe we can call it fake warmth at Kevin’s house at night…right?  But That would be just as ridiculous. 

[Typhoon Tip]

3 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Whoosh right over the top of ye dome . No one is saying the temp at the ground isn’t really happening. If it says 32, it is 32. But if it rises to 70 that afternoon, that airmass is not real and is not cold . It’s a fake cold 

No...   32, is cold.  It is not fake.

I dunno...getting close to needing to call you a choice word, and walking away.  haha my god

[powderfreak]

7 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

We can and we do. This heat this afternoon is born of the same fake cloth. It’s just some folks get panties bunched and tussled over frosts so it’s talked about much more .

I won't lie, I see no one getting tussled over frosts this fall.  Every morning you seem to be the driver of the fake cold narrative, but I again understand, you are growing your vegetables getting up each morning seeing 15 posts about people with ice, 28F, dead vegetation, etc.  In the afternoon, you don't seem to care as much if BDL is 71F and you are 66F, it feels normal even if the heat is fake.

Honestly, we've had some deep freezes, even as low as 20F at home at 1,100ft this past week... but I'm not sure 1,800ft has gotten below 30F once, lol.  The mid-slopes have been staying warmer.  It's just how it is in high pressure patterns.

[Brewbeer]

9 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

It’s a fake cold 

if it's registering on the thermometer, it is not fake, it is real

5 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

You are not grasping or understanding and that’s ok. Move along now ya hear?

nah, we are gonna keep embarrassing you on this subject for as long as you want to persist with being embarrased

 

 

[WinterWolf]

7 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

We can and we do. This heat this afternoon is born of the same fake cloth. It’s just some folks get panties bunched and tussled over frosts so it’s talked about much more .

Ok. Bottom line, nothing is fake about any temp. Or any weather for that matter.   If you want to call radiational cooling fake, the same radiational cooling that ultimately causes winter time temps, and ultimately CAA,  and sound like you’re in special Ed…then that’s on you.  I think we all explained it well, and made it clear.    
 

BTW…It’s 67 out…great day…but maybe it’s fake?   

[Great Snow 1717]

5 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

You are not grasping or understanding and that’s ok. Move along now ya hear?

Hmmm...you or John not grasping or understanding...that is a tough one....let me ponder that decision lol

[tamarack]

15 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

I think the point has! Been missed this whole time. . It is fake because it is not a cold airmass. It drops because of low dew points and dry air, just as it warms rapidly . A great example is the desert. It may drip into the 30’s/40’s, but rises to 90’s/100’s. Is that a cold airmass or a hot airmass? No it’s a fake environment in both cases 

My cucurbits and tomatoes missed the point as well.  It's possible that the record lowest temperatures in 48 of the 50 states (all but HI and possibly NH) were "fake".

[WinterWolf]

8 minutes ago, tamarack said:

My cucurbits and tomatoes missed the point as well.  It's possible that the record lowest temperatures in 48 of the 50 states (all but HI and possibly NH) were "fake".

I just have to ask…I get HI(tropical and all) but why NH Tom? 

[SJonesWX]

jesus christ this place sucks lately. I will never understand why anyone gives a fuck what someone else calls fake.

[Ginx snewx]

5 minutes ago, SJonesWX said:

jesus christ this place sucks lately. I will never understand why anyone gives a fuck what someone else calls fake.

Lol WTF boring begat boring 

[tamarack]

1 hour ago, WinterWolf said:

I just have to ask…I get HI(tropical and all) but why NH Tom? 

MWN hit -47 during that early Feb 2023 blast (with gusts to 144 mph).  I'd earlier found another -47 set in January 1934 but without the site, so maybe a rad pit, maybe not.

[dendrite]

8 minutes ago, SJonesWX said:

jesus christ this place sucks lately. I will never understand why anyone gives a fuck what someone else calls fake.

This is a fake post

[Damage In Tolland]

13 minutes ago, SJonesWX said:

jesus christ this place sucks lately. I will never understand why anyone gives a fuck what someone else calls fake.

Just keeping it real ?

[dendrite]

Kidding aside, we’re basically just arguing between low thickness cold and relatively higher thickness cold. You have rad pits in the northern Rockies that pull frequent subfreezing mins in July only to hit 80s in the afternoon. The cold is real, but it’s not really a sign of the intensity of the airmass.

Ironically most of our cold airmasses originate from radiational cooling and deep highs in the arctic.

[Ginx snewx]

Our string of very stormy near/on Halloweens is broken.  The amount of extreme storms on this date is crazy. From snowtober to Sandy to The Perfect Storm to the 2017 epic 975 bomb.

[Ginx snewx]

10 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Our string of very stormy near/on Halloweens is broken.  The amount of extreme storms on this date is crazy. From snowtober to Sandy to The Perfect Storm to the 2017 epic 975 bomb.

 

[Damage In Tolland]

https://x.com/weatherunited1/status/2115863484160413760?a=-cnIRn2C6ep1gjp4xlE&s=46

[Ginx snewx]

1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said:

https://x.com/weatherunited1/status/2115863484160413760?a=-cnIRn2C6ep1gjp4xlE&s=46

What's wrong with that?

[Damage In Tolland]

Just now, Ginx snewx said:

What's wrong with that?

Warmth flooding all of North America? Everything . It’s torched PAC flow. Hopefully it’s wrong 

[powderfreak]

20 minutes ago, dendrite said:

Ironically most of our cold airmasses originate from radiational cooling and deep highs in the arctic.

If it’s fake to begin with, but then advects into your neighborhood, does it become real?

Philosophers want to know.

[dendrite]

13 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

If it’s fake to begin with, but then advects into your neighborhood, does it become real?

Philosophers want to know.

-70F in Yakutsk is 99.99% fake.

 

Just watch out for that 0.01%

[Damage In Tolland]

39 minutes ago, dendrite said:

Kidding aside, we’re basically just arguing between low thickness cold and relatively higher thickness cold. You have rad pits in the northern Rockies that pull frequent subfreezing mins in July only to hit 80s in the afternoon. The cold is real, but it’s not really a sign of the intensity of the airmass.

Ironically most of our cold airmasses originate from radiational cooling and deep highs in the arctic.

And that’s real and spectacular. It radiates and stays cold 24/7. Ding ding ding !

[Torch Tiger]

25 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Warmth flooding all of North America? Everything . It’s torched PAC flow. Hopefully it’s wrong 

fake flow

[Great Snow 1717]

1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said:

Lol WTF boring begat boring 

Dullest October ever??