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On 3/24/2026 at 11:40 AM, psv88 said:

29 this morning. 

Hard freeze expected again Friday night and Saturday high around 42. Last freeze here is usually end of March/early April. So figure a few more weeks before growing season begins

Average last freeze in Smithtown for the past 30 years is April 12.  It really hasn't changed much over that time, despite 1996 being an outlier.

Last 32°, Smithtown NY    
     Year               Date       Low Temp
1996   5/14/1996   32
1997   4/16/1997   32
1998   4/13/1998   32
1999   3/27/1999   29
2000   4/14/2000   29
2001   4/20/2001   32
2002   4/24/2002   32
2003   4/8/2003   31
2004   4/6/2004   31
2005   4/17/2005   30
2006   3/30/2006   32
2007   4/11/2007   28
2008   5/1/2008   32
2009   4/17/2009   32
2010   3/28/2010   30
2011   3/30/2011   30
2012   3/28/2012   30
2013   4/7/2013   32
2014   4/21/2014   31
2015   4/12/2015   32
2016   4/14/2016   32
2017   4/13/2017   32
2018   4/21/2018   32
2019   4/2/2019   26
2020   4/19/2020   30
2021   4/4/2021   32
2022   3/30/2022   28
2023   4/10/2023   30
2024   4/26/2024   31
2025   4/10/2025   32
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2 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said:

Average last freeze in Smithtown for the past 30 years is April 12.  It really hasn't changed much over that time, despite 1996 being an outlier.

Last 32°, Smithtown NY    
     Year               Date       Low Temp
1996   5/14/1996   32
1997   4/16/1997   32
1998   4/13/1998   32
1999   3/27/1999   29
2000   4/14/2000   29
2001   4/20/2001   32
2002   4/24/2002   32
2003   4/8/2003   31
2004   4/6/2004   31
2005   4/17/2005   30
2006   3/30/2006   32
2007   4/11/2007   28
2008   5/1/2008   32
2009   4/17/2009   32
2010   3/28/2010   30
2011   3/30/2011   30
2012   3/28/2012   30
2013   4/7/2013   32
2014   4/21/2014   31
2015   4/12/2015   32
2016   4/14/2016   32
2017   4/13/2017   32
2018   4/21/2018   32
2019   4/2/2019   26
2020   4/19/2020   30
2021   4/4/2021   32
2022   3/30/2022   28
2023   4/10/2023   30
2024   4/26/2024   31
2025   4/10/2025   32

Average last freeze here in Campbel Hall over the last 20 is April 27. Here is a comparsion of our numbers if interested:

Smithtown Campbell Hall
3/30/2006 32 4/30/2006 30
4/11/2007 28 4/11/2007 22
5/1/2008 32 5/1/2008 28
4/17/2009 32 4/17/2009 30
3/28/2010 30 5/11/2010 30
3/30/2011 30 4/22/2011 28
3/28/2012 30 4/30/2012 29
4/7/2013 32 4/27/2013 32
4/21/2014 31 4/25/2014 30
4/12/2015 32 4/26/2015 28
4/14/2016 32 4/21/2016 32
4/13/2017 32 4/9/2017 31
4/21/2018 32 4/24/2018 31
4/2/2019 26 4/29/2019 32
4/19/2020 30 5/14/2020 31
4/4/2021 32 4/23/2021 30
3/30/2022 28 4/30/2022 32
4/10/2023 30 5/15/2023 30
4/26/2024 31 4/27/2024 32
4/10/2025 32 4/18/2025 29
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29 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

Average last freeze here in Campbel Hall over the last 20 is April 27. Here is a comparsion of our numbers if interested:

Smithtown Cambell Hall
3/30/2006 32 4/30/2006 30
4/11/2007 28 4/11/2007 22
5/1/2008 32 5/1/2008 28
4/17/2009 32 4/17/2009 30
3/28/2010 30 5/11/2010 30
3/30/2011 30 4/22/2011 28
3/28/2012 30 4/30/2012 29
4/7/2013 32 4/27/2013 32
4/21/2014 31 4/25/2014 30
4/12/2015 32 4/26/2015 28
4/14/2016 32 4/21/2016 32
4/13/2017 32 4/9/2017 31
4/21/2018 32 4/24/2018 31
4/2/2019 26 4/29/2019 32
4/19/2020 30 5/14/2020 31
4/4/2021 32 4/23/2021 30
3/30/2022 28 4/30/2022 32
4/10/2023 30 5/15/2023 30
4/26/2024 31 4/27/2024 32
4/10/2025 32 4/18/2025 29

Thanks, that is interesting.  For that 20 year period, our average last freeze is April 11.  Assuming a similar comparison in the fall, that's at least an extra month of growing season here.  Not trivial, especially in the fall, but I'll work those numbers another time.  I think the difference in the fall will be even more...it's hard to get to freezing when the LI Sound is still near 60°.  Our first fall freeze is sometimes a couple of weeks later than the center of the island, but I don't think there is much difference in the spring.

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13 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

Thanks, that is interesting.  For that 20 year period, our average last freeze is April 11.  Assuming a similar comparison in the fall, that's at least an extra month of growing season here.  Not trivial, especially in the fall, but I'll work those numbers another time.  I think the difference in the fall will be even more...it's hard to get to freezing when the LI Sound is still near 60°.  Our first fall freeze is sometimes a couple of weeks later than the center of the island, but I don't think there is much difference in the spring.

at my old location, 1.2 miles NW of my current location, the average last freeze from 2017 to 2025 was 4/14...earliest was 4/2 in 2019 and latest was 4/26 in 2024

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49 minutes ago, psv88 said:

Maybe it’s historic, maybe it’s not. How do we know what the weather was 300 years ago?

Science uses tree rings, ice core samples, sedimentary rock, etc. to determine temperatures from past years...

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10 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

Thanks, that is interesting.  For that 20 year period, our average last freeze is April 11.  Assuming a similar comparison in the fall, that's at least an extra month of growing season here.  Not trivial, especially in the fall, but I'll work those numbers another time.  I think the difference in the fall will be even more...it's hard to get to freezing when the LI Sound is still near 60°.  Our first fall freeze is sometimes a couple of weeks later than the center of the island, but I don't think there is much difference in the spring.

For fall numbers I have the following firsts:

NWS defined frost (36-32)

Visible Frost (not exactly a scientific category)

Freeze (32 and below)

Hard Freeze (28 and below)

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Unseasonably warm air will briefly move into the region tomorrow. Hights will top out in the upper 60s and lower 70s. Friday will be somewhat cooler with highs reaching the middle 50s. 

Another cold front could cross the region on tomorrow night or Friday. The front will bring a few showers or thundershowers. The weekend will start on a cold note with the low temperature likely near or even somewhat below freezing in New York City and high temperatures in the middle 40s on Saturday. Sunday will become somewhat milder.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +1.6°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was 0.0°C for the week centered around March 18. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +1.15°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.08°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will continue through at least mid-spring.

The SOI was -9.62 today. 

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +2.585 today. 

Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied near 100% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal March (1991-2020 normal). March will likely finish with a mean temperature near 45.5° (2.7° above normal). 

Supplemental Information: The projected mean would be 3.0° above the 1981-2010 normal monthly value. 

 

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Took a ride yesterday evening through the Pine Barrens. Rolled up on an active prescribed fire area. There was a recently cut fire break, so I decided to get out and follow it to an orange glow in the distance. 

I made it to the active burning area. The sounds- the roar of the flames and the endless snaps, pops, and crackles were incredible (and I'd be scared shitless if it were an actual wildfire). 

It's really cool seeing how fire creates its own microclimate. Wind was otherwise calm around 7 PM but within about a 50 yard radius, the wind was significant stronger, hotter (obviously) and progressed the fire quickly (moving at about 50 feet per minute)

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