Blizzardo Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago just need a quick thump to get the ground white and then its showtime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Wow 18z hrrr is doubling down big totals on long Island. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago RRFS (planned to replace the nam/hrr r 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Jt17 said: Ratios is a big part of it. People in here always dismiss them. This will have them up north where you are. And further south and southeast there's more QPF in general to get them to their forecast. And then banding is sure to set up somewhere relentlessly allowing select areas make it to the high ends of their forecast. . NBM, which uses a combo of Kuchera and the Cobb method has overall ratios of 12-13 for the NJ coast and 15-17 NW of 95, which is part of the reason why the NBM is showing more snow per QPF than the 10:1 snowfall maps. I can definitely see this, since once we overcome the early melting, the snow crystal growth dynamics in the DGZ should be great for low density/high ratio dendrites, especially after about 7 pm with temps below 32F in the whole column. Only question then becomes how much crystal breakage do we see upon descent through a very windy column. Will be interesting to see. Also, measuring the snow accurately will be tough once we get past 9-10 pm and winds really pick up. Might have to use my technique of going to a huge field near me, which limits the "edge effects" one gets in most house properties with fences, trees, roads, etc. This was the only way I could get decent measurements for big storms with high winds like Jan-96, BDB and Jan-2016. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexcountyobs Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Rjay said: There's going to be a big band somewhere just north of you into Sussex County imo Let's hope so! I'll let y'all know. I'm off tomorrow, so let it dump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 16 minutes ago, Brasiluvsnow said: I posted this elsewhere but I will put it here also as I am looking for a little insight ,,,,,,,IF the MESOS earlier started to bum people out why would the NWS now increase amounts and issue blizzard warnings for Orange and Duchess counties which are well N n W of NYC ,,,,,,what are the experts looking at ? The HRRR ? something else ? Bueller ? anyone While the latest 12z GFS is now lower with QPF and more in line with the Canadian and ECMWF, these global models are struggling with banding. Current forecast QPF and Snow Amounts remained similar to previous forecast which is more in line with hi res/HREF guidance. Snow amount was derived using similar snow ratios to the previous forecast. Much of the guidance including the NBM appears to be too high. This was mannualy adjusted down to 10:1 or even a bit lower today, then increasing to 12-14:1 by late tonight into daybreak Monday as colder air wraps around the system. Using these ratios with generally 1.25 to 1.50 inches of QPF across the interior and 1.75 to 2.00 inches along the coast resulted in a swath of about 20 to 24 inches of snow for NYC and Long Island and 16 to 20 inches elsewhere. While this is the expected amount, a few isolated readings of 30 inches are possible in the heaviest banding, mainly along the coast. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJW014 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Snow beginning to stick to cold surfaces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franklin0529 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Decided to go to my parents house in Galloway. About 10 miles north of Atlantic city inland about 5 miles from Ocean. Ripping snow here the last hr ground covered an roads starting to cave 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobeTrekker Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 34 minutes ago, Jt17 said: Visibility down and starting to stick in Jersey City a bit. Def earlier than I expected it to stick to surfaces. . Sticking now in Hoboken also, but roads still clear. Temperature down to 32.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFox Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago From the Storm Prediction Center 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceanctyguy Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, TJW014 said: Snow beginning to stick to cold surfaces What's your temp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Franklin0529 said: Decided to go to my parents house in Galloway. About 10 miles north of Atlantic city inland about 5 miles from Ocean. Ripping snow here the last hr ground covered an roads starting to cave Good luck have fun. Should be a great spot for this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonClaw Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Down to 32.7 per mesonet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGeek2025 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 30 minutes ago, Uniblab said: That's where I am! I have Staten Island at 26 inches I hope I bust low lol that would be amazing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 18z NBM (v.5.0): Note: V.4.3, which will be replaced this spring, shows 25” for Central Park. The newer version with the more realistic snow-liquid ratios has been very steady. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, donsutherland1 said: 18z NBM (v.5.0): Note: V.4.3, which will be replaced this spring, shows 25” for Central Park. The newer version with the more realistic snow-liquid ratios has been very steady. Don can you post this with SEPA in the Philadelphia forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYC77 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Beginning to accumulate in Brooklyn Sent from my SM-S926U1 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrummWx Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Been snowing pretty steady in Manhattan for 3-4 hours now, roads and surfaces are still mostly clear. Finally starting to see some stickage on the dirt tree root things on the sidewalk. 34th @ 7th 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, Franklin0529 said: Decided to go to my parents house in Galloway. About 10 miles north of Atlantic city inland about 5 miles from Ocean. Ripping snow here the last hr ground covered an roads starting to cave My Grandmother lived in Pomona. About 3 miles from Stockton. Spent many Summers down there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Violentweatherfan said: Don can you post this with SEPA in the Philadelphia forum I will post the PA map. Unfortunately, there is no map that zooms in on SE PA, which is surprising given that Philadelphia is a major city. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jt17 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Been snowing pretty steady in Manhattan for 3-4 hours now, roads and surfaces are still mostly clear. Finally starting to see some stickage on the dirt tree root things on the sidewalk. 34th @ 7thSnow sticking to even grass or dirt in the city before it turns dark is a good sign for accumulations. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 28 minutes ago, Nibor said: For north and west folks that deform band on the latest HRRR is also modeled on the RAP and FV3. No guarantee but I think that's the back edge of the big totals. Going to be close out here in west central Morris County. Glad I'm not any further west. Wish that surface low was more inside the BM but we take what we can get. Coastal and more eastern locations are in good shape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregRups21 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Light snow started up Montvale nj . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franklin0529 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Nibor said: Good luck have fun. Should be a great spot for this one. Thanks I appreciate it!! It's really coming down now big fat cotton ball flakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franklin0529 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, NJwx85 said: My Grandmother lived in Pomona. About 3 miles from Stockton. Spent many Summers down there. Yea I'm not far! I'm right off rt 30!! Should be fun here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 13 minutes ago, wthrmn654 said: While the latest 12z GFS is now lower with QPF and more in line with the Canadian and ECMWF, these global models are struggling with banding. Current forecast QPF and Snow Amounts remained similar to previous forecast which is more in line with hi res/HREF guidance. Snow amount was derived using similar snow ratios to the previous forecast. Much of the guidance including the NBM appears to be too high. This was mannualy adjusted down to 10:1 or even a bit lower today, then increasing to 12-14:1 by late tonight into daybreak Monday as colder air wraps around the system. Using these ratios with generally 1.25 to 1.50 inches of QPF across the interior and 1.75 to 2.00 inches along the coast resulted in a swath of about 20 to 24 inches of snow for NYC and Long Island and 16 to 20 inches elsewhere. While this is the expected amount, a few isolated readings of 30 inches are possible in the heaviest banding, mainly along the coast. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoriaweather Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Wow. It's coming. Rehoboth Beach Delaware. https://www.instagram.com/302.life/reel/DVEme8QDzKh/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman92 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Dropping off a few orders for work as I drive up through Brooklyn to Bergen County. Williamsburg Brooklyn has roads and cars covered now with an inch maybe. 34 degrees 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 24 minutes ago, Jt17 said: Ratios is a big part of it. People in here always dismiss them. This will have them up north where you are. And further south and southeast there's more QPF in general to get them to their forecast. And then banding is sure to set up somewhere relentlessly allowing select areas make it to the high ends of their forecast. . this was shared take a look While the latest 12z GFS is now lower with QPF and more in line with the Canadian and ECMWF, these global models are struggling with banding. Current forecast QPF and Snow Amounts remained similar to previous forecast which is more in line with hi res/HREF guidance. Snow amount was derived using similar snow ratios to the previous forecast. Much of the guidance including the NBM appears to be too high. This was mannualy adjusted down to 10:1 or even a bit lower today, then increasing to 12-14:1 by late tonight into daybreak Monday as colder air wraps around the system. Using these ratios with generally 1.25 to 1.50 inches of QPF across the interior and 1.75 to 2.00 inches along the coast resulted in a swath of about 20 to 24 inches of snow for NYC and Long Island and 16 to 20 inches elsewhere. While this is the expected amount, a few isolated readings of 30 inches are possible in the heaviest banding, mainly along the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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