nycsnow Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Icon trended great Nam…. We want more keep going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 16 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: No. Even if a blizzard is likely, the criteria do not allow for a blizzard warning at the lead time involved. A Blizzard Warning means that the following conditions are occurring or expected within the next 12 to 18 hours. 1) Snow and/or blowing snow reducing visibility to 1/4 mile or less for 3 hours or longer AND 2) Sustained winds of 35 mph or greater or frequent gusts to 35 mph or greater. There is no temperature requirement that must be met to achieve blizzard conditions. https://www.weather.gov/lwx/warningsdefined#Blizzard Warning I do remember, many moons ago, there was a temperature criteria of 20° or below. I know that has not been in place for a long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexcountyobs Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Steve D in his latest video a few minutes ago on YouTube not buying into GFS solution at all. He said the double barrel low look that is tucked in is the model misinterpreting the inverted trough. Expects if anything, GFS low will trend east, not west. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: watches by this afternoon for some areas As I mentioned earlier, the NWS said in their AFDs that they were closely following the NBM, so given that the NBM has taken a decent bump upwards (maybe included the NAM already) at 07Z, I'd expect watches to go up for anywhere that is at at least 6" on that map, which includes this entire subforum basically and the Philly subforum too (note that this map includes previous snow from the Catskills northward). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoulderWX Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago I think much of S.NJ, the coast, and from about NYC to the east see a major storm but I think it will have a very sharp cutoff on the NW side -- this is one where. city and island could see double digits where areas just to the west see a 2-5 type event. Will be interesting to see if trends continue NW or if we start to see some settling of the models with better sampling present. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGeek2025 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 6 minutes ago, David-LI said: you cannot have a blizzard with sunny skies lol. visibility must be very low, 1/4 mile. 3 minutes ago, Jersey_Snowhole said: Serious question are you in your teen? Because then a lot of things would make sense. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago We all want a big ass storm with tons of snow. But let's not forget, beaches are going take a massive hit work potential erosion along with coastal flooding issues. Not 100%sure what the moon cycle is right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Great shift west with the icon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago More pretty pictures... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJW014 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 minute ago, sussexcountyobs said: Steve D in his latest video a few minutes ago on YouTube not buying into GFS solution at all. He said the double barrel low look that is tucked in is the model misinterpreting the inverted trough. Expects if anything, GFS low will trend east, not west. Same guy who said there was no storm threat two days ago. IMO something between GFS and Euro is a good bet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 26 minutes ago, RU848789 said: Yes, we've been NAM-ed. Huge to see even if it's a bit out of its range (the important changes were mostly earlier). still looks like 2/6/10 to me....i remember the dt maps with 8-12 for us, we got close to bupkiss....this just wants to be a south jersey and south event for the time being....however, i'm not seeing all the confluence that happened back then....which some mets thought would not be enough to stop the storm in its tracks...we've seen it happen a few times since....i never like to see the south getting the brunt for us up here; we actually do a little better when the bulk is north of us. but hey, we'll see.....it is always heart breaking to see those bands stop at mid monmouth or skirt east. but we do not know that yet..... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Just now, weatherpruf said: still looks like 2/6/10 to me....i remember the dt maps with 8-12 for us, we got close to bupkiss....this just wants to be a south jersey and south event for the time being....however, i'm not seeing all the confluence that happened back then....which some mets thought would not be enough to stop the storm in its tracks...we've seen it happen a few times since....i never like to see the south getting the brunt for us up here; we actually do a little better when the bulk is north of us. but hey, we'll see.....it is always heart breaking to see those bands stop at mid monmouth or skirt east. but we do not know that yet..... We dont have brutally cold air to keep this south. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 6 minutes ago, WeatherGeek2025 said: what did i say that's not true? @donsutherland1am i wrong? The issue with the idea of posting blizzard warnings later today was that the lead time is too long. Blizzard warnings are only posted when blizzard conditions are ongoing or imminent in the next 12-18 hours. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGeek2025 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Just now, David-LI said: It wouldn't be sunny with clear skies. OmG just admit you were wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Just now, TJW014 said: Same guy who said there was no storm threat two days ago. IMO something between GFS and Euro is a good bet. he's not out to lunch, but he is nothing special either. in that business, no one should expect you to be bullseye on anything; i personally don't care for his forecasts but he is far from terrible. its probably ok to have a little skepticism this time of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Im wondering. All the models are showing a dual low. Maybe the models are adjusting to the low closer to the coast rather than the low in the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGeek2025 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 3 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: The issue with the idea of posting blizzard warnings later today was that the lead time is too long. Blizzard warnings are only posted when blizzard conditions are ongoing or imminent in the next 12-18 hours. i was talking about how it could be a sunny day without a cloud in the sky and we could still have a blizzard warning as long as there's snow on the ground and it's blowing it around causing the visibility to be 1/4 miles or less for 3 hours or more with sustained winds of at least 35mph? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob1 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Awesome trend on the RGEM as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 2 minutes ago, MJO812 said: We dont have brutally cold air to keep this south. a major factor for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGeek2025 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 minute ago, donsutherland1 said: The issue with the idea of posting blizzard warnings later today was that the lead time is too long. Blizzard warnings are only posted when blizzard conditions are ongoing or imminent in the next 12-18 hours. they will probably mention the blizzard conditions possibility and have to go with a winter storm watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 minute ago, MJO812 said: Im wondering. All the models are showing a dual low. Maybe the models are adjusting to the low closer to the coast rather than the low in the ocean. If the phase is cleaner and happens in a better spot/sooner, it’ll be better for us. We don’t want all these vorts ahead of the trough though, that’s what spawns these convective lows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Rgem almost there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 2/20 12z Summary Total QPF SREF Mean (84H: NAM: RGM: ICON: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 2/20 12z Summary Total QPF NYC SREF: 1.2 NAM: 0.9 RGEM: 0.7 ICON: 1.0 GFS: 1.6 GFS AI AIGFS: 1.7 GGEM: 0.6 GEFS: 1.5 UMET: 0.9-1.0 EURO AI AIFS: 0.9 EURO: 0.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago WOW on RGEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jims Videos Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Blizzard watches were discontinued about 10 years ago. While winds could be strong along the beaches, we are in the middle of the moon phases so that will help a bit. Middletown Township just purchased another 800 tonnes of salt after the January storm. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 34 minutes ago, WeatherGeek2025 said: i'd go with Blizzard warnings for NYC and east! Please stop, I'm now begging. 5 1 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 11 minutes ago, BoulderWX said: I think much of S.NJ, the coast, and from about NYC to the east see a major storm but I think it will have a very sharp cutoff on the NW side -- this is one where. city and island could see double digits where areas just to the west see a 2-5 type event. Will be interesting to see if trends continue NW or if we start to see some settling of the models with better sampling present. The coast especially LI & the jersey shore are due for one. Hopefully they get this one! I still have 8-9” of snow cover here. I’m ok with a miss lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Really solid trends right now. Will the GFS hold? Even a slight shift would be ok 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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