forkyfork Posted yesterday at 11:48 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:48 AM muh backyard snow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted yesterday at 12:24 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:24 PM All time record-breaking anomalies of almost +8C showing up off the coast of Peru ^ “And again!!! Another day, another record for the current #ElNiñoCostero: the sea temperature anomaly measured in #Paita, #Piura yesterday was +7.9°C. Data @DHN_peru All of this, while all sea temperature indicators have skyrocketed in the last week. Not to mention the last month.” And a very pronounced (new) DWKW has formed in the WPAC from the current WWB wind stress: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted yesterday at 12:54 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:54 PM 28 minutes ago, snowman19 said: All time record-breaking anomalies of almost +8C showing up off the coast of Peru ^ “And again!!! Another day, another record for the current #ElNiñoCostero: the sea temperature anomaly measured in #Paita, #Piura yesterday was +7.9°C. Data @DHN_peru All of this, while all sea temperature indicators have skyrocketed in the last week. Not to mention the last month.” And a very pronounced (new) DWKW has formed in the WPAC from the current WWB wind stress: The ongoing and strengthening El Niño is already contributing to record warm ocean temperatures. Global sea surface temperatures are currently well ahead of those during the development of the 2023-24 El Niño. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted yesterday at 01:14 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:14 PM 33 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: The ongoing and strengthening El Niño is already contributing to record warm ocean temperatures. Global sea surface temperatures are currently well ahead of those during the development of the 2023-24 El Niño. I don’t think the new EURO ONI/RONI projections are far-fetched at all given the massive SOI crash, the continued big WWBs, the new DWKW, the record warm subsurface, +IOD development, ++PMM, OLR anomalies, MJO/ERW constructive interference and the extremely rapid surface warming that has started. This event is showing signs of going into a “runaway” Bjerknes feedback loop. I would not be surprised if we are into a super El Niño by August 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted yesterday at 02:09 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:09 PM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted yesterday at 02:45 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:45 PM 2 hours ago, snowman19 said: All time record-breaking anomalies of almost +8C showing up off the coast of Peru ^ “And again!!! Another day, another record for the current #ElNiñoCostero: the sea temperature anomaly measured in #Paita, #Piura yesterday was +7.9°C. Data @DHN_peru All of this, while all sea temperature indicators have skyrocketed in the last week. Not to mention the last month.” And a very pronounced (new) DWKW has formed in the WPAC from the current WWB wind stress: Levy is saying record high anom for Paita on 6/3-4/26. He doesn’t say how far back records go. And we’re certainly nowhere near the record anom for 1+2 overall for early June of 1983: The following are 1+2 monthly anoms 1983 5 28.26 3.85 1983 6 27.36 4.24 And 1997 was quite warm, too: 1997 6 26.12 3.00 These are weeklies 1983 much warmer 01JUN1983 4.4 08JUN1983 4.0 1997 fairly comparable to current non-relative although this is warmer than current relative’s low 2s: 28MAY1997 2.6 04JUN1997 2.5 11JUN1997 3.0 OISST 1+2 (non-relative) +2.6 (relative only in low +2s vs 4+ in ‘83): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 15 minutes ago, GaWx said: Levy is saying record high anom for Paita on 6/3-4/26. He doesn’t say how far back records go. And we’re certainly nowhere near the record anom for 1+2 overall for early June of 1983: The following are 1+2 monthly anoms 1983 5 28.26 3.85 1983 6 27.36 4.24 And 1997 was quite warm, too: 1997 6 26.12 3.00 These are weeklies 1983 much warmer 01JUN1983 4.4 08JUN1983 4.0 1997 fairly comparable to current non-relative although this is warmer than current relative: 28MAY1997 2.6 04JUN1997 2.5 11JUN1997 3.0 OISST 1+2 (non-relative) +2.6 (relative only in low +2s vs 4+ in ‘83): I thought it was implicit in his tweet that he was speaking of daily anomalies in a very specific area and not region 1+2 overall. Nowhere in that tweet does he say region 1+2 overall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 12 minutes ago, GaWx said: Levy is saying record high anom for Paita on 6/3-4/26. He doesn’t say how far back records go. And we’re certainly nowhere near the record anom for 1+2 overall for early June of 1983: The following are 1+2 monthly anoms 1983 5 28.26 3.85 1983 6 27.36 4.24 And 1997 was quite warm, too: 1997 6 26.12 3.00 These are weeklies 1983 much warmer 01JUN1983 4.4 08JUN1983 4.0 1997 fairly comparable to current non-relative although this is warmer than current relative: 28MAY1997 2.6 04JUN1997 2.5 11JUN1997 3.0 OISST 1+2 (non-relative) +2.6 (relative only in low +2s vs 4+ in ‘83): Gimme' 82/83 please! Surprise 7" in December then the Megalopolis storm in February. My brother and I had to push my late uncle's van during the Noon hour when BWI recorded 4" in that hour. Thunder and lightning all day was just surreal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 3 minutes ago, snowman19 said: I thought it was implicit in his tweet that he was speaking of daily anomalies in a very specific area and not region 1+2 overall. Nowhere in that tweet does he say region 1+2 I think he was just pointing out that the entire 1+2 was cooler than 82/83. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 1 minute ago, snowman19 said: I thought it was implicit in his tweet that he was speaking of daily anomalies in a very specific area and not region 1+2 overall He was but my point is that Paita is just a very specific small area in the far edge of 1+2. It’s 1+2 that we follow because it matters significantly as far as Nino effects on the globe are concerned. And the current 1+2 is nowhere near record highs. I’m adding important context related to this tweet you posted. Without what I added, one could be fooled into thinking that 1+2 is at all-time highs, which is nowhere near true. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago More on 97. Here were the monthlies: 1+2 3 4 3.4 1997 6 26.12 3.00 28.13 1.51 29.23 0.26 28.82 1.09 1997 7 25.59 3.63 27.90 2.09 29.37 0.47 28.86 1.56 1997 8 24.96 3.96 27.71 2.59 29.29 0.50 28.75 1.89 1997 9 24.69 3.96 27.74 2.84 29.44 0.68 28.85 2.13 1997 10 24.69 3.67 28.06 3.08 29.34 0.58 29.08 2.36 1997 11 26.12 4.47 28.37 3.27 29.39 0.69 29.12 2.41 1997 12 27.06 4.25 28.53 3.30 29.11 0.57 28.89 2.29 1998 1 28.12 3.55 28.74 3.08 28.95 0.64 28.93 2.38 1998 2 28.74 2.64 28.90 2.49 28.79 0.59 28.78 2.03 1+2 (peak 4.47) and 3 (peak 3.3) were way, way stronger than 4, which remained just wk (peak 0.69) and even way stronger than 3.4 (peak 2.41)! The forecast for ‘26 is much stronger in 3.4/4 and stronger in 3, but not as strong in 1+2: Per latest Euro, here are peak non-rel. monthlies: 1+2: 3.9 3: 3.9 3.4: 3.7 4: 2.4 That’s only a contrast of 1.5 from E to W compared to 3.8 in ‘97! And contrast from 1+2 to 3.4 is a mere 0.2 vs 2.1 in ‘97!! So, the prog is for ‘26 to be E based but way more balanced and thus not nearly as E based as the extremely E based ‘97. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 36 minutes ago, GaWx said: More on 97. Here were the monthlies: 1+2 3 4 3.4 1997 6 26.12 3.00 28.13 1.51 29.23 0.26 28.82 1.09 1997 7 25.59 3.63 27.90 2.09 29.37 0.47 28.86 1.56 1997 8 24.96 3.96 27.71 2.59 29.29 0.50 28.75 1.89 1997 9 24.69 3.96 27.74 2.84 29.44 0.68 28.85 2.13 1997 10 24.69 3.67 28.06 3.08 29.34 0.58 29.08 2.36 1997 11 26.12 4.47 28.37 3.27 29.39 0.69 29.12 2.41 1997 12 27.06 4.25 28.53 3.30 29.11 0.57 28.89 2.29 1998 1 28.12 3.55 28.74 3.08 28.95 0.64 28.93 2.38 1998 2 28.74 2.64 28.90 2.49 28.79 0.59 28.78 2.03 1+2 (peak 4.47) and 3 (peak 3.3) were way, way stronger than 4, which remained just wk (peak 0.69) and even way stronger than 3.4 (peak 2.41)! The forecast for ‘26 is much stronger in 3.4/4 and stronger in 3, but not as strong in 1+2: Per latest Euro, here are peak non-rel. monthlies: 1+2: 3.9 3: 3.9 3.4: 3.7 4: 2.4 That’s only a contrast of 1.5 from E to W compared to 3.8 in ‘97! And contrast from 1+2 to 3.4 is a mere 0.2 vs 2.1 in ‘97!! So, the prog is for ‘26 to be E based but way more balanced and thus not nearly as E based as the extremely E based ‘97. I agree that it’s obviously not as strong in 1+2 as 1997 or 1982 thus far. The final result still to be determined, but this event is developing unlike anything we’ve seen since 1997. It is still decidedly east-based From @csnavywx “We ain't getting a CP or "basin wide" event. Too much off-equator WWB activity, which focuses WWV onto the equator via Eckman transport and causes EKWs to break and surface later. If you want a CP/basin wide or w/e, you def want your bursts narrowly focused with some trade wind resistance like we had in the '99-'22 era. There was arguably a bit of that left in the '23/'24 event but we've had no issues killing off the trades, even well away from the equator. This is *much closer* to the '72-'98 environment in that respect. I can't be the only one who remembers how tough it was to kill off the trades even in the '15/'16 event. It languished for a while in the summer because of it and we had two false starts ('12 and '14) before that one took off. We are miles away from that.” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago The strong 3.4 OISST warming hasn’t stopped as it warmed 0.12 on 6/5, which means a whopping 0.5C warming 5/31-6/5! Mon’s weekly should be ~0.3 warmer (~0.8). 6/5 RONI equivalent is ~+1.0: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raindancewx Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago The very cold Western US + MX heatwave in June 2023 are nowhere to be found so far. It's been quite warm in the West so far this June, and the monsoon in Mexico has been in full swing at normal timing. Much of the West was 5F below average in June 2023. Nino 4 was already about 30.0C in May - record warmth. Nino 3.4 finished below May 2015. The precip pattern depicted on the June run for DJF looks like a blend of 1997-98, 2009-10, 2012-13, 2015-16. Looks to me like an MJO 6-7 blend with major +IOD contributions by East Africa. The Canadian Update in June did move the greatest precipitation area v. means much further east in the tropics, which is a good sign for canonical El Nino impacts. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago A freaky record breaking cold period for N of 80N just occurred May 23rd-June 4th per the image below (records back to 1958). I saw it mentioned by Bastardi but wanted to confirm it, myself. So, I went through the graphs for every year to confirm this and it turns out he’s right with that period averaging ~-6C, which is ~3.5C BN: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, GaWx said: A freaky record breaking cold period for N of 80N just occurred May 23rd-June 4th per the image below (records back to 1958). I saw it mentioned by Bastardi but wanted to confirm it, myself. So, I went through the graphs for every year to confirm this and it turns out he’s right! The thought that you would question the great JB's claim of a weather record setter is shocking, just shocking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormchaserchuck1 Posted 9 hours ago Author Share Posted 9 hours ago Massive round of -SOI.. 30-day below -18, which 23-24 never did. 15-16 peaked at -22. 97-98 is the next higher up (although there was 1-month strong dip in Feb 2005). 6 Jun 2026 1013.94 1016.55 -27.42 -18.06 -9.05 5 Jun 2026 1012.20 1015.15 -29.81 -17.33 -8.44 4 Jun 2026 1010.52 1014.25 -35.29 -16.43 -7.77 3 Jun 2026 1010.14 1013.80 -34.80 -15.47 -7.10 2 Jun 2026 1012.48 1015.05 -27.13 -14.79 -6.56 What we have been calling -PDO may have actually been more of a -ENSO decadal state. 82-83 is the real one to beat, that had a streak of 3/4 months <-30 SOI. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormchaserchuck1 Posted 9 hours ago Author Share Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, GaWx said: A freaky record breaking cold period for N of 80N just occurred May 23rd-June 4th per the image below (records back to 1958). I saw it mentioned by Bastardi but wanted to confirm it, myself. So, I went through the graphs for every year to confirm this and it turns out he’s right with that period averaging ~-6C, which is ~3.5C BN: Since the Aurora borealis in May 2024 associated with Solar Max, this big +AO pattern has been happening at the beginning of the warm season for the last 3 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Stormchaserchuck1 said: Since the Aurora borealis in May 2024 associated with Solar Max, this big +AO pattern has been happening at the beginning of the warm season for the last 3 years. Thanks, Chuck. Consistent with that, 2025 has by a large margin the strongest +AO for the period I was analyzing, May 23rd-June 4th from 1958 through 2026. That period in 2025 was chilly (~1.5C BN) though not nearly as cold as the ~-3.5C of 2026. By the way, 2026 had the 4th strongest +AO of this period back to 1958 thus intuitively helping it be one of the coldest. 2023 had the 10th strongest +AO and was ~1C BN. 1994 had the 2nd strongest +AO but it was only ~0.5C BN. 1996 had the 3rd strongest +AO, but it was NN rather than cold. So, the correlation of +AO to cold N of 80B is far from perfect due to other factors coming into play as you very likely realize even though there’s still a decent partial correlation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago On 6/3/2026 at 1:12 PM, GaWx said: The model progs are suggesting a shot at a 1017 mb Darwin SLP on June 7th. If that occurs, it would easily become the new highest Darwin SLP that early in the year based on records back to 1992. The current record highest that early in the year is 4/22/2023’s 1016.2 mb. If it reaches 1017, it would become the earliest 1017 on record by ~15 days! It turns out that the models were right on as today’s Darwin SLP is 1017.70, the earliest that high so early in the season and the 6th highest on record: 7 Jun 2026 1014.05 1017.70 -34.73 Darwin will be lower tomorrow. Based on history, that 1017.7 could easily end up the highest daily Darwin SLP of 2026. But there’s no telling for sure as an SLP that high remains possible through September (end of their winter). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormchaserchuck1 Posted 8 hours ago Author Share Posted 8 hours ago ^It updates at 2am? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 25 minutes ago, Stormchaserchuck1 said: ^It updates at 2am? It sometimes updates later but, yes, it often does update in the middle of the night our time. The 24 hour period that each daily is based on evidently ends at about the average middays of Darwin and Tahiti. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago “No surprises in the latest NMME climate model output. Niño intensity has ticked up in a few of the models (the CanESM5 was one of the last moderate Niño holdouts last month but it's all in on a near-record event now). I think the NCAR CESM1 broke or something this month. The response looks extremely classic too. Wet anomalies across the tropical Pacific, with the NE and Central Pacific also active thanks to the +PMM. The Atlantic will be dry and hostile for basically the whole season, with drought possible in the Caribbean. The Gulf Coast will likely have a wet and stormy winter as the subtropical jet gets cranking.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago The thermocline is about to deepen (drop) big time in the eastern tropical PAC. This very strongly supports this event staying east-based/East Pacific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Nino 3.4 getting to 29.27 is really impressive so early in this event. The all-time record was 29.82 back on 11-17-15. They may need to extend the scale since the current forecast peak over is 30°C. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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