Is we back? February discussion thread

[WinterWolf]

5 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Who doesn't understand that the sun is getting higher? Jesus....

he feels the need to constantly educate us on everything from psycho babble, to fast flow,  to D drip.  Must be great to be so intelligent, and be free from what plagues the rest of us, and most of society.     

[Typhoon Tip]

25 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Well, I mean....we are all storm enthusiasts....I know for me, I understand, but it's not like I ignore guidance because I'm mindful of fast flow. Anomalies happen.....so while east coast blizzards may be more of an endangered species these days, they aren't yet extinct. I don't think remaining ever vigilant and hopeful despite an understanding of the faster flow and current tropical forcing tendencies is necessarily indicative of "an aptitude gap".

I wasn't talking about you, personally bro -

Just a comment about the audience. 

And it is factually true... because the majority of this social media's return/habitual contributors and players and pastimers both have not suffered and succeeded dynamics, but also in turn don't really present much evidence that there's been supplements. 

[40/70 Benchmark]

4 minutes ago, PhiEaglesfan712 said:

I thought people learned that in 2015, when April was warm, and May torched. Are people saying that March is going to be colder than February, and April is going to be colder than March again?

The schools must be failing the children because I learned this in grade school.

For those who don't know, here's the general rule (for the Northern Hemisphere): The sun gets higher from about early January to early June, stays about steady (at the maximum) for a few weeks in June, then the sun goes lower from late June to early December, and stays about steady (at the minimum) from early December to early January. (In the southern hemisphere, this is reversed.)

You sure they didn't mean anomalywise?

[WinterWolf]

5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Meh many others commented too. If you told me coldest start to 96 and one good storm, I would have thought you were crazy. Never said it wasn’t good, but kind of yawn. 

Again Scott…feel what you f’n want. I do not agree. Sure we could have picked up even more snow, no argument there. But it’s not done.  And with the various systems that we’ve gotten, and the big cold with, and also before and after systems, keeping constant and deep cover, it’s been a very good winter here.  Your opinion doesn’t trump mine, nor mine yours.  

Sometimes expectations can get a little overblown too. We live in SNE, not Quebec or Newfoundland or Alberta. I mean last year was better than the previous few, but fell well short.  I feel this one turned the corner, and delivered solid results. Let’s see where it goes the next 4-6 weeks. 

[dendrite]

29 minutes ago, Chrisrotary12 said:

Anyone else notice how warm 35* felt with strong sunshine yesterday?

35°? ASH runs a couple warm too.

[40/70 Benchmark]

1 minute ago, Typhoon Tip said:

I wasn't talking about you, personally bro -

Just a comment about the audience. 

And it is factually true... because the majority of this social media's return/habitual contributors and players and pastimers both have not suffered and succeeded dynamics, but also in turn don't really present much evidence that there's been supplements. 

Oh, yes...social media is a cesspool. 

[CoastalWx]

3 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Again Scott…feel what you f’n want. I do not agree. Sure we could have picked up even more snow, no argument there. But it’s not done.  And with the various systems that we’ve gotten, and the big cold with, and also before and after systems, keeping constant and deep cover, it’s been a very good winter here.  Your opinion doesn’t trump mine, nor mine yours.  

Yeah yawn 

[SouthCoastMA]

Looking forward to the warmup next week and perhaps some rain to clear the salty streets. 

The 6z Euro EPS did look better for Sunday but I have zero hope for that one. 

[WinterWolf]

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

Yeah yawn 

That’s just Dumb! What a clown. 

[40/70 Benchmark]

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

Yeah yawn 

It's been a good winter IMO. Normalish snowfall and well below normal temps. It's left plenty on the table, which is frustrating, but it's been nice overall.

[CoastalWx]

Just now, 40/70 Benchmark said:

It's been a good winter IMO. Normalish snowfall and well below normal temps. It's left plenty on the table, which is frustrating, but it's been nice overall.

That’s what I mean. I never said it wasn’t good. But given the pattern we had, I feel we left some on the table and that’s a little disappointing. But I’m not complaining about what we had.

[40/70 Benchmark]

11 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

he feels the need to constantly educate us on everything from psycho babble, to fast flow,  to D drip.  Must be great to be so intelligent, and be free from what plagues the rest of us, and most of society.     

The Typhoon Tip of homosapiens?

[WinterWolf]

Just now, 40/70 Benchmark said:

It's been a good winter IMO. Normalish snowfall and well below normal temps. It's left plenty on the table, which is frustrating, but it's been nice overall.

If the second half of Feb and first half of March can deliver some…then it goes up more. 

[RUNNAWAYICEBERG]

2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Yeah yawn 

Looks that way the rest of the month. Gonna need a big March now to match snowfall amounts with the seasons’s cold and snowpack positives.

[tavwtby]

29 minutes ago, Chrisrotary12 said:

Anyone else notice how warm 35* felt with strong sunshine yesterday?

it feels great at 21 in the sun without wind right now! i expect I break the streak of below freezing here...ALY posted the top 10 for POU under freezing, 18 days was 3rd and happened twice, probably closer to my obs that Pittsfield or BDL, the record was 23 straight days, happened 2 times also, and second was 19 days.

[kdxken]

Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Looks that way the rest of the month. Gonna need a big March now to match snowfall amounts with the seasons’s cold and snowpack positives.

 

[George001]

It’s been BN to well BN temps every month and most areas are sitting at 130-150% of average snow. It has objectively been the most severe winter in terms of cold and snow since 14-15. Boston is already sitting at what 40 inches, that’s close to the average for the ENTIRE SEASON and we have 3 more weeks of Feb + March still left. Yeah, most of our snow came from one storm but you know as well as anyone that’s how our climo is. I know we left some on the table (especially December), but I would also argue that the pattern overall has been been a notch below top La Niña winters like 10-11 and 95-96. We have not had as active of a STJ and less blocking overall than those winters, so I wouldn’t say we left a fuck ton on the table. This winter has produced really well overall, I’m happy with it.

[dendrite]

5 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

It's been a good winter IMO. Normalish snowfall and well below normal temps. It's left plenty on the table, which is frustrating, but it's been nice overall.

I said it the other day, but you could look at it like we were a little lucky with that roided SWFE too. It’s tough to pull something like that off in the midst of 2-3 weeks of -10 anomalies without any relaxation at the sfc. That was a Jose Canseco needled up wedge of surface cold with big overrunning over it.

But if that had missed south people would be losing their minds right now. A 20” event and deep pack for weeks definitely changes the mindset. 

[WinterWolf]

Just now, CoastalWx said:

That’s what I mean. I never said it wasn’t good. But given the pattern we had, I feel we left some on the table and that’s a little disappointing. But I’m not complaining about what we had.

Saying yawn is complaining. 
 

Every year leaves some on the table. Like I said, even your wet dream 2015 left a lot on the table here WOR. But It was perfect where you were though. I wouldn’t say it was yawn though…but almost every system was half here compared to what it was out east.  

[SJonesWX]

1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

Everyone is dropping their pants to this winter, but if you take the snow goggles off, it’s surprising we only had one good storm and that took a gulf low ramming into an arctic dome. Think about that for a second. 

i have had full snowcover since 12/23 (without mini-melt in mid-Dec it would have been since 12/2), and currently have 16-18" in the yard, with great local snowmobiling. sure, we missed out on some storms, but overall, this is our best winter at my locale in several years. Need 4" more to trump the last 2 seasons.

[NoCORH4L]

Good winter overall. The mild ups between middle of DEC to middle of JAN were disappointing during the middle of the season, along with not getting a few more SWFEs. 

[CoastalWx]

1 minute ago, SJonesWX said:

i have had full snowcover since 12/23 (without mini-melt in mid-Dec it would have been since 12/2), and currently have 16-18" in the yard, with great local snowmobiling. sure, we missed out on some storms, but overall, this is our best winter at my locale in several years. Need 4" more to trump the last 2 seasons.

I’m talking storm specific. Stein is here.

[40/70 Benchmark]

3 minutes ago, dendrite said:

I said it the other day, but you could look at it like we were a little lucky with that roided SWFE too. It’s tough to pull something like that off in the midst of 2-3 weeks of -10 anomalies without any relaxation at the sfc. That was a Jose Canseco needled up wedge of surface cold with big overrunning over it.

But if that had missed south people would be losing their minds right now. A 20” event and deep pack for weeks definitely changes the mindset. 

Yea, goes both ways, too.....fast flow, MJO...I get it, but none of those are prohibitive in an ABSOLUTE sense, so we also could have more go right on the coast, too.

[CoastalWx]

Imagine if we didn’t have climate change and fast flow…..

[PhiEaglesfan712]

13 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

You sure they didn't mean anomalywise?

Even if that were to happen, with how cold a February we have, we'd need to have like a -7 March, and a -10 April, which would put us at record cold levels. I'm guessing the cold has peaked, and the temperature anomalies will revert towards the mean, and we'll have a warmer than normal spring. Seems to always be that way after colder winters, like 2010, 2011, and 2015.

[dendrite]

2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Imagine if we didn’t have climate change and fast flow…..

We’re going to have a big CC discussion on Friday the 13th when Wolfie leaves for Frenchy ville.

[ORH_wxman]

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

Imagine if we didn’t have climate change and fast flow…..

Yeah that 1/25 storm would’ve tried to cut into BUF with that flow buckling out in the Rockies …good thing we had that faster flow to keep it south of us. 

[40/70 Benchmark]

Just now, PhiEaglesfan712 said:

Even if that were to happen, with how cold a February we have, we'd need to have like a -7 March, and a -10 April, which would put us at record cold levels. I'm guessing the cold has peaked, and the temperature anomalies will revert towards the mean, and we'll have a warmer than normal spring. Seems to always be that way after colder winters, like 2010, 2011, and 2015.

I don't think March will be warm, but we'll see. I agree we are going to warm up beforehand, though.

[40/70 Benchmark]

1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said:

Yeah that 1/25 storm would’ve tried to cut into BUF with that flow buckling out in the Rockies …good thing we had that faster flow to keep it south of us. 

I sense an aptitude deficit...you would think Cornell would have better prepared you.

[WinterWolf]

10 minutes ago, dendrite said:

I said it the other day, but you could look at it like we were a little lucky with that roided SWFE too. It’s tough to pull something like that off in the midst of 2-3 weeks of -10 anomalies without any relaxation at the sfc. That was a Jose Canseco needled up wedge of surface cold with big overrunning over it.

But if that had missed south people would be losing their minds right now. A 20” event and deep pack for weeks definitely changes the mindset. 

If my uncle were a girl, she’d be my aunt.  I mean c’mon…I get what you’re saying, but we didn’t miss the big one.  So it’s a mute point. Yes, if we did, sure we’d be way down. But we didn’t.  And yes, that changed things, as most of the time one system can herd in SNE. 
 

Take away January 27th 2015, and a lot of eastern areas would be 30-35” less in 14-15.  It still would have been a very good year, but that was huge.