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December 2025 regional war/obs/disco thread


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3 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

When I was walking out to the car this morning a massive owl flew overhead. Took me a second to realize what it was...thought it was a pterodactyl at first and was about to dive in a bush 

Your skinny ass does not have enough meat.

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2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Imagine Christmas on the front range eating outside with windows open. Totally normal.

I mean if we keep shutting down climate studies, closing facilities (NCAR) and "burning" climate data, it obviously means it isn't real.....It happens all the time is the new response and will be backed up by the "new" data, complete with black sharpies that of course shows "it's all normal"

But back to current discussion, hope it snows some time around Christmas, otherwise let it warm up so kids can play outside and travel isn't disrupted

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2 minutes ago, ineedsnow said:

Flash freeze late Friday?

What do we consider “flash”? Temps will drop midday on, but I doubt most hit freezing until evening. I’d personally call that regular CAA. It’s not like we’re refreezing slush either.

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4 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

Wouldn't mind getting this pattern in July.

Monopoly Weather Chance Card: Take a ridge on the derecho express

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It's getting exhausting and tedious....start to lose intrigue when you just know it isn't going to snow, regardless of what happens. My god.....if this season does it again, this will surpass the 80's-early 90s.

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1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

It's a perfect pattern for them...imagine that ridge few hundred miles west, INVO Idaho?

Every run that you loop up there just crushes them one after another.

Is Nick still up there in the Labrador region?

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2 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

It's getting exhausting and tedious....start to lose intrigue when you just know it isn't going to snow, regardless of what happens. My god.....if this season does it again, this will surpass the 80's-early 90s.

I legit am nervous. I know its early, but in the grand scheme of things, we're already assessing how the pattern looks to evolve post Christmas into New Years. If that period ends up sucking then we'll be looking towards mid-January...and so forth. 

I truly believe we need to completely flush out the entire atmosphere...we probably need a good multi year stretch where ENSO is a non factor and then hope we are truly on the -PDO decline. At some point the odds have to return to our favor but the background state is far from it, IMO.

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38 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

I legit am nervous. I know its early, but in the grand scheme of things, we're already assessing how the pattern looks to evolve post Christmas into New Years. If that period ends up sucking then we'll be looking towards mid-January...and so forth. 

I truly believe we need to completely flush out the entire atmosphere...we probably need a good multi year stretch where ENSO is a non factor and then hope we are truly on the -PDO decline. At some point the odds have to return to our favor but the background state is far from it, IMO.

I'll tell you one thing...if I come out of this month in single digits for snowfall, my outlook on the season will absolutely shift. I can only find two cool ENSO seasons since 1950 that did that and ended up sniffing normal, and that is 1966 and 1983, the former was a cool-neutral year.

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3 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

I'll tell you one thing...if I come out of this month in single digits for snowfall, my outlook on the season will absolutely shift. I can only find one cool ENSO season since 1950 that did that and ended up sniffing normal, and that is 1966, which was a cool-neutral year.

Despite the -PDO having leveled off, I think its still severely screwing us with shifting the East Asian jet north. 

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