August 2025 Discussion-OBS - cooler than normal first week but a big comeback to warmer than normal for the last 2-3 weeks

[Brian5671]

2 hours ago, nycwinter said:

summer is effectively over the odds of any long stretch of either hot or very warm humid weather 3 days or more is gone..

We'll probably see more heat but with lower sun angle?shorter days it never feels as bad as June/July heat...we've lost close to 2 hrs of daylight since 6/21

[IrishRob17]

7 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

We'll probably see more heat but with lower sun angle?shorter days it never feels as bad as June/July heat...we've lost close to 2 hrs of daylight since 6/21

Ageed with the less sunlight and lower angle, being able to cool down at night makes a big difference too.

[SACRUS]

 

68 / 51.   Overall nice stretch of dry weather the next week.  Only chance of rain remains Wed late / Thu but seems to be dry.   Temps near / below normal the next week  Upper 70s / low 80s for the most part of NYC/NJ/LI.  Trough remains through the first / Second before some moderation towards warmer by the 3/rd / 4th and beyond.   

 

[FPizz]

1 hour ago, steve392 said:

58 degree's on another beautiful drive in to work.  

Agree, and hit no traffic for once.  56 here.  Decent amount of 50s (even some lower 50s) this month with several more to come

[Sundog]

48 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

We'll probably see more heat but with lower sun angle?shorter days it never feels as bad as June/July heat...we've lost close to 2 hrs of daylight since 6/21

You'd be surprised. I remember the mid 90s in October 2019 and it felt hot as hell despite the lower Sun. 

The Sun angle on the September Equinox at solar noon is about the same as the June solstice Sun angle at 4PM. 

 

[SACRUS]

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 103 (1948)
NYC: 103 (1948)
LGA: 103 (1948)
JFK: 100 (1948)


Lows:

EWR: 51 (1942)
NYC: 53 (1887)
LGA: 53 (1940)
JFK: 53 (1963)


Historical:

 

 

1591: Roanoke Island was again struck by a severe storm. The winds blew out of the northeast, directly into the harbor. Waves crashed on a sandbar and currents in the area became quite dangerous. (Ref. for the storm of 1591)

1635: New England on August 25th and 26th: The Great Colonial Hurricane strikes the New England coast. Rev. Increase Mather writes: "...no storm more dismal than the great hurricane." Many shipwrecks and several near-disasters occur during the storm, one of which would give birth to a favorite New England legend surrounding Thacher's Island. (Ref. WxDoctor)

1827: A hurricane originating near the Windward Islands struck Cape Hatteras, before moving northeast offshore Virginia, Maryland, and New England. Initial reports from Wilmington, NC indicated that this was a storm of great intensity as it passed by to their east. One report gave an account of waves over the top of garden fences some 6900 feet from the beach. Other reports indicated storm tides greater than 10 feet above normal levels. The western end of Pamlico Sound, reported water levels 12 to 15 feet above ordinary levels. The following first hand account of this storm in Virginia was from the Tazewell Papers in the Virginia State Library. Henry Tazewell wrote to his brother John in New York and described the storm as such.
"....A severe gale which continued for three days changed the climate here entirely and persons are clad generally in full suits of winter clothing; the same gale has done great injury to shipping and to present crops. The fodder is worthless and the corn in many places is much broken by the wind."
The gale "...commenced in the forenoon of August 25th and continued to increase until the evening, when it blew tremendously. About midnight, the rain ceased and the gales somewhat abated, though it continued to blow fresh all day on the 26th." At the height of the storm, winds unroofed a two story building on Talbot street in Norfolk and commenced to blow away the second floor of the building. Livestock was swept away in large numbers. Corn was leveled at Belleview...a mill dam was torn to shreds and the bridge over it was swept away. (Ref. for St. Kitts Hurricane)
 

1864 - A train running from Cincinnati to Chicago was derailed by a tornado in Dearborn County, Indiana, or 75 miles southeast of Indianapolis. Two passenger cars were lifted from the tracks and dropped in a ravine which injured 30 people.

1883 - Krakatoa Volcano exploded in the East Indies. The explosion was heard more than 2500 miles away, and every barograph around the world recorded the passage of the air wave, up to seven times. Giant waves, 125 feet high and traveling 300 mph, devastated everything in their path, hurling ashore coral blocks weighing up to 900 tons, and killing more than 36,000 persons. Volcanic ash was carried around the globe in thirteen days producing blue and green suns in the tropics, and then vivid red sunsets in higher latitudes. The temperature of the earth was lowered one degree for the next two years, finally recovering to normal by 1888. (David Ludlum)

1895: Snow flurries affected parts of Pennsylvania, New York and New England with snow observed as far south as Hartford, CT. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 

1910: Peoria, IL registered a low temperature of 41°. This established a record for the month of August, although it has been tied twice since then. Daily low temperatures were established at Lincoln, IL with 37°; Decatur, IL: 44°; and Champaign, IL: 46°. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1915: Severe cold and killing frosts across Minnesota with 23 degrees at Roseau, MN. (Ref. AccWeather Weather History)

1924: A hurricane brushed New England with 80 mph winds reported at Blue Hill Observatory in Milton, MA. The pressure at Nantucket Island dropped to 28.71 inches of mercury. Boston, Massachusetts recorded its lowest pressure 29.26 inches of mercury for the month of August. (Ref. NOAA Boston Weather Events)

1940: Boston, Massachusetts had its lowest August temperature of 46 °F. (Ref. NOAA Boston Weather Events)

1949 - A hurricane made landfall at Delray Beach. Winds reached 153 mph at the Jupiter Lighthouse before the anemometer failed. The hurricane caused 45 million dollars damage to crops, and also caught the Georgia and South Carolina coast resulting in another two million dollars damage. (David Ludlum)

1965 - Late night severe thunderstorms associated with an unusually strong late summer cold front produced 100 mph winds straight line winds in the Chicago area and northwest Indiana. In Lake County IND, high winds derailed a train near Crown Point, and left a canoe suspended among telephone lines. Two nights later the temperature at Midway Airport in Chicago dipped to 43 degrees, establishing a record for the month of August. (Storm Data) (Hugh Crowther)

1976 - A weak tornado touched down briefly in the Hockley Hills near Kiana, AK, about 29 miles north of the Arctic Circle. (The Weather Channel)

1987 - Showers and thunderstorms drenched northern Illinois during the morning and afternoon hours pushing August rainfall totals for Chicago, Moline and Peoria to new all-time highs for any month of the year. By the end of August, Chicago had received 17.10 inches of rain, which easily surpassed the previous record of 14.17 inches established in September 1961. (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - A dozen cities in Texas, Colorado and California reported record high temperatures for the date, including readings of 100 degrees at Pueblo CO, 106 degrees at Wichita Falls TX, and 109 degrees at Redding CA. Afternoon thunderstorms in Utah deluged the town of Beaver with more than an inch of rain in twenty minutes. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Anchorage, AK, was soaked with a steady rain, and the 24 hour total of 4.12 inches smashed their previous 24 hour precipitation total of 2.10 inches. It also pushed their rainfall total for the month past their previous record for August. (The National Weather Summary)

1993: Butte, MT picked up 5 inches of heavy, early season snow. (Ref. AccWeather Weather History)


1996: Norfolk, VA lightning seriously injured two boys who were sitting at a picnic table beneath a tree. (Ref. Lightning - Virginia Weather History)

2002: No tornado damage, just high straight-line winds. Severe thunderstorm winds to 87 mph overturned 15 empty railroad cars in Wallace, KS; each had a posted weight of 15 tons. (Weather Guide Calendar with Phenomenal Weather Events 2011 Accord Pub. 2010, USA) A severe thunderstorm produced large and damaging hail at Cheyenne, WY during the evening. Hail up to the size of baseballs fell over especially the central and west parts of town producing widespread damage, particularly to roofs and automobiles. Total damage estimates exceeded $30 million dollars. (Ref. WxDoctor)

2003: A derecho associated with a cluster of severe thunderstorms affected parts of Michigan and states eastward to Washington, DC. Strong winds left hundreds of thousands of customers without power, just weeks after the Great Blackout of 2003. The Great Blackout of 2003 was Thursday, August 14, 2003, just before 4:10 p.m. EDT. At the time, it was the second most widespread blackout in history, after the 1999 Southern Brazil blackout. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2005: Katrina made landfall in southern Florida on August 26 as a Cat 1 hurricane. It crossed Florida and headed through the Gulf of Mexico, growing in strength to a Cat 5 while still offshore of Louisiana on August 28, with top wind speeds of 175 MPH and a central pressure of 902 MB. Fortunately before making landfall on August 29 in Eastern Louisiana/southern Mississippi it diminished somewhat in intensity to a Cat 3. There were 1833 deaths and $81 billion in damages, the costliest hurricane ever in the United States. Ref. (Weather Underground Hurricane History Archives - Katrina)
Also see -- Complete History of Hurricane Katrina 43 pages Katrina made landfall again see the date - (August 29, 2005) for more information.

2007: The remnants of Hurricane Dean produced thunderstorms and heavy rain all over the San Diego Metro area in southern California. Two inches of rain fell in just 90 minutes at Escondido during the morning. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2017: Harvey's intensification phase stalled slightly overnight from August 24–25, however Harvey soon resumed strengthening and became a Category 4 hurricane late on August 25. Hours later, Harvey made landfall near Rockport, Texas, at peak intensity. The strongest winds were focused just northeast of Corpus Christi, around Rockport. The highest reading of 132 mph was registered at Port Aransas. Harvey, a tropical storm by Tuesday morning with its eye hovering over the Gulf of Mexico, could still dump up to 15 inches of rain on portions of southeastern Texas and southwestern Louisiana, including the saturated Houston area, where thousands have been rescued and many more still wait for help. The greatest problem would be the record rainfall amounts. (15 inches of rain and more to come) (Harvey made landfall near Rockport, Texas)(Satellite-before-Landfall on the 24-25 landfall near Rockport, Texas)

2020: Wednesday- August 26 -2020 Nearing landfall, Laura reached peak intensity as a category 4 hurricane early Wednesday evening as a NOAA hurricane hunter aircraft indicated that maximum sustained winds had increased to 150 mph as the center of Laura was approximately 120 miles to the south of Lake Charles, LA. as the central minimum pressure fell to 937 mb ( inches of mercury). At that time, Laura's outer bands had begun moving onshore along the Louisiana coast, accompanied by strong winds, steady rain and several possible tornadoes. Hurricane Laura made landfall along the Louisiana Gulf Coast near Cameron, LA just after midnight on

[anthonymm]

2 hours ago, bluewave said:

We should finish with a slightly cooler August against the warmest 1991-2020 climate normals. But since we have been warming so fast, it would just be average for recent 30 year climate eras.

Anytime we get a cooler month in recent years, we eventually see a warm departure of a greater magnitude than the cooler month was. This was the case with the spring warmth after the slightly cooler winter. Also last fall with some cooler conditions early on before we experienced record warmth by October and early November. 
 

 

This 100%. We never get cool downs "for free". It's always one slightly below normal month followed by 2-3 blowtorches right after. I'm expecting a torchy fall.

[anthonymm]

31 minutes ago, Sundog said:

You'd be surprised. I remember the mid 90s in October 2019 and it felt hot as hell despite the lower Sun. 

The Sun angle on the September Equinox at solar noon is about the same as the June solstice Sun angle at 4PM. 

 

Yea I think this stuff about low sun angle heat not feeling bad is pure cope. Hot is hot, and anything above 85 is way too hot. I'd be surprised if we dont roast come mid September as payback for this nice August

[forkyfork]

this is what it takes for average temps in the mid latitudes

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[WX-PA]

2 hours ago, anthonymm said:

Yea I think this stuff about low sun angle heat not feeling bad is pure cope. Hot is hot, and anything above 85 is way too hot. I'd be surprised if we dont roast come mid September as payback for this nice August

By Setember 10th the sun angle is equal to March 31st..it might get up to 90 but it doesn't feel the same as  June to mid August

[Sundog]

8 minutes ago, WX-PA said:

By Setember 10th the sun angle is equal to March 31st..it might get up to 90 but it doesn't feel the same as  June to mid August

I wrote farther up how noontime on the September Equinox is the same angle as the June solstice at 4PM. 

90s at 4PM on June 21st feel plenty hot haha

 

[qg_omega]

It’s not cool today lol

[Sundog]

6 minutes ago, qg_omega said:

It’s not cool today lol

It's 80/52 and sunny here.

I took my jacket since it was so brisk.   

[nycwinter]

i remember in the 1980's when a cold front came through temp fell into the 50's one afternoon in nyc in september that would be impossible today.. 

[Brian5671]

55 minutes ago, qg_omega said:

It’s not cool today lol

It was this morning...52 here.   Felt chilly when I went out with the kids for first day of school pics at 7am...warming nicely though 77 here perfect day

[anthonymm]

1 hour ago, qg_omega said:

It’s not cool today lol

Agreed. If you're not in the shade and there's 0 clouds anything above 70 or so feels quite hot

[bluewave]

1 hour ago, nycwinter said:

i remember in the 1980's when a cold front came through temp fell into the 50's one afternoon in nyc in september that would be impossible today.. 

We got an early hint how cold the 1976-1977 winter was going to be with the record cold outbreak at the end of August 1976. 
 

Data for August 31, 1976 through August 31, 1976
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

NY	WALDEN 1 ESE	COOP	37
NY	PORT JERVIS	COOP	38
CT	DANBURY	COOP	38
NJ	CANOE BROOK	COOP	39
NY	CARMEL	COOP	39
CT	WESTBROOK	COOP	39
CT	MOUNT CARMEL	COOP	39
CT	STAMFORD 5 N	COOP	40
NY	SCARSDALE	COOP	40
CT	MIDDLETOWN 4 W	COOP	40
NJ	CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR	COOP	40
NJ	PLAINFIELD	COOP	41
CT	NORWALK GAS PLANT	COOP	41
NJ	ESSEX FELLS SERVICE BLDG	COOP	42
NY	YORKTOWN HEIGHTS 1W	COOP	42
NY	WESTCHESTER CO AP	WBAN	42
NY	SUFFERN	COOP	42
NY	WEST POINT	COOP	42
NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	43
NY	BEDFORD HILLS	COOP	43
CT	NEW HAVEN TWEED AP	WBAN	43
CT	GROTON	COOP	43
NJ	LITTLE FALLS	COOP	44
NY	MIDDLETOWN 2 NW	COOP	44
NY	PATCHOGUE 2 N	COOP	45
NY	NEW YORK BOTANICAL GARDEN	COOP	45
CT	NORWICH PUBLIC UTILITY PLANT	COOP	45
NY	NY WESTERLEIGH STAT IS	COOP	46
NY	MINEOLA	COOP	46
NY	DOBBS FERRY-ARDSLEY	COOP	46
NY	BRIDGEHAMPTON	COOP	46
CT	NEW HAVEN	COOP	47
NY	SETAUKET STRONG	COOP	47
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	48
NJ	MIDLAND PARK	COOP	48
NJ	JERSEY CITY	COOP	50
NY	NY CITY CENTRAL PARK	WBAN	50
CT	IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT	WBAN	50
NY	GREENPORT POWER HOUSE	COOP	50
NY	LAGUARDIA AIRPORT	WBAN	52
NY	JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	52
NY	ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP	WBAN	52
NY	MONTAUK	COOP	52
NY	NEW YORK AVE V BROOKLYN	COOP	53
NY	NEW YORK LAUREL HILL	COOP	53
NY	RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM	COOP	54

 

Data for August 31, 1976 through August 31, 1976
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

PA	TOBYHANNA POCONO MOUNTAIN ARPT	WBAN	34
PA	BELTZVILLE DAM	COOP	35
NJ	INDIAN MILLS 2 W	COOP	36
NJ	NEWTON	COOP	36
PA	EAST STROUDSBURG	COOP	37
NJ	SUSSEX 1 NW	COOP	37
NJ	MORRIS PLAINS 1 W	COOP	37
NJ	FLEMINGTON 5 NNW	COOP	38
NJ	SOMERVILLE 4 NW	COOP	38
PA	PERKASIE	COOP	39
PA	PALMERTON	COOP	39
NJ	CHATSWORTH	COOP	39
PA	GEORGE SCHOOL	COOP	39
MD	CENTREVILLE	COOP	40
NJ	BELLEPLAIN STA FOREST	COOP	40
NJ	ATLANTIC CITY INTL AP	WBAN	40
NJ	PEMBERTON	COOP	40
NJ	ESTELL MANOR	COOP	40
NJ	TOMS RIVER	COOP	40
PA	PHOENIXVILLE 1 E	COOP	41
NJ	HIGHTSTOWN 2 W	COOP	41
NJ	LAMBERTVILLE	COOP	41
NJ	FREEHOLD-MARLBORO	COOP	41
NJ	BOONTON 1 SE	COOP	41
DE	GEORGETOWN 5 SW	COOP	42
MD	MILLINGTON 1 SE	COOP	42
PA	WEST CHESTER 2 NW	COOP	42
PA	GRATERFORD 1 E	COOP	42
PA	READING 4 NNW	COOP	42
NJ	WOODSTOWN PITTSGROV 4E	COOP	42
NJ	HAMMONTON 1 NE	COOP	42
NJ	BELVIDERE	COOP	42
NJ	TUCKERTON 2 NE	COOP	42
NJ	LAKEHURST NAS	WBAN	42
DE	MIDDLETOWN 3 E	COOP	43
PA	COATESVILLE 1 SW	COOP	43
PA	MORGANTOWN	COOP	43
PA	ALLENTOWN LEHIGH VALLEY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	43
NJ	CHERRY HILL	COOP	43
NJ	LONG BRANCH-OAKHURST	COOP	43
NJ	NEW BRUNSWICK 3 SE	COOP	43
DE	MILFORD 2 SE	COOP	44
NJ	SEABROOK FARMS	COOP	44
NJ	WEST WHARTON	COOP	44
MD	EASTON	COOP	45
DE	BRIDGEVILLE 1 NW	COOP	45
MD	DENTON 2 E	COOP	45
DE	NEWARK AG FARM	COOP	45
PA	WEST GROVE 1 SE	COOP	45
DE	WILMINGTON PORTER RES	COOP	46
NJ	SHILOH	COOP	46
NJ	MILLVILLE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT	WBAN	46
PA	NORTHEAST PHILADELPHIA AIRPORT	WBAN	46
NJ	GLASSBORO 2 NE	COOP	47
PA	WILLOW GROVE NAS	WBAN	47
MD	CHESTERTOWN	COOP	48
NJ	AUDUBON	COOP	48
NJ	TRENTON	WBAN	48
MD	ROYAL OAK 2 SSW	COOP	49
DE	DOVER	COOP	49
MD	PRESTON 1 S	COOP	49
DE	WILMINGTON AIRPORT	WBAN	50
PA	DEVAULT 1 W	COOP	50
PA	NORRISTOWN	COOP	50
NJ	CAPE MAY 2 NW	COOP	50
NJ	SPLIT ROCK POND	COOP	50
PA	PHILADELPHIA INTL AP	WBAN	51
DE	LEWES	COOP	53
PA	DREXEL UNIV	COOP	53
PA	MARCUS HOOK	COOP	54
PA	PHILADELPHIA 23D & MARKET	COOP	54
PA	PHILADELPHIA	WBAN	56
PA	PHILADELPHIA WSFO	COOP	56

[FPizz]

31 minutes ago, anthonymm said:

Agreed. If you're not in the shade and there's 0 clouds anything above 70 or so feels quite hot

You sound like bizarro nycwinter

[Stormlover74]

[bluewave]

13 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Would be nice to ease the developing dry conditions for the OP to score a win here. But the EPS is still more suppressed. I hope they move toward the OP over the next several runs.