August 2025 Discussion-OBS - cooler than normal first week but a big comeback to warmer than normal for the last 2-3 weeks

[Dark Star]

12 hours ago, Brian5671 said:

not to mention a fairly short season and off season storage costs...

I guess the season is even shorter for the sea-faring lads.  Those cold ocean breezes can make a day that is nice inland, miserable on the water?

[bluewave]

Looks like a really nice August pattern through next weekend. The warmest departures will miss to our north with onshore flow here. A few warmer days in the low 90s but nothing too extreme. Then other days with the highs in the 80s. Pattern looks pretty dry through at least next weekend. The one negative will be all the smoke from the record Canadian wildfires.

 

[2112wxgrl]

Hello. I’m looking to head to Pt Pleasant with my family either Wednesday or Thursday this week. Which day looks to be the better day at this time? Thank you!

[SACRUS]

 

70 / 60 . Clear cloud-wise but smoke gets in your eyes.  Warm  mid - upper 80s , smoke may hinder the hottest spots from a 90 return.  More cloudy Tuesday but still warm with mid - upper 80s hottest spots maybe to 90 but could be cloudy.   We'll see how much rain can get north of SNJ later Wed / Thu AM. The late week and weekend look beautiful.  Overall onshore barrage the next 4-5 days before the flow comes around next week warm-hot / humid and wetter overall with tropcial activity heating up.    Atlantic ridge remains expanded or anchored off the coast offshore so storms may be steered and aimed towards the SE/EC.  

 

8/4 - 8/8 :  near normal - dry overall - (limited 90s to the hottest spots Mon/Tue)
8/8 - 8/12 :  Warm - Hot / Humid - wetter (Tropics)
8/13 - Beyond :  Overall warmer than normal  - periods of heat , Wetter

 

 

[SACRUS]

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 100 (1993)
NYC: 100 (1944)
LGA: 99 (1944)
JFK: 93 (2006)


Lows:

EWR: 58 (1945)
NYC: 55 (1874)
LGA: 62 (1964)
JFK: 57 (1964)


Historical:

 

 

1609: Sir Thomas Gates, future governor of Virginia, was on his way to England from Jamestown. On Saint James Day, while between Cuba and the Bahamas, a "most terrible and vehement storm" raged for 44 hours. One of the small vessels in the fleet sank to the bottom of the Florida Straits. Four of the remaining vessels reached Virginia soon after the storm...followed a few days later by three other ships. The flagship, known as Sea Adventure, disappeared and was presumed lost. A small bit of fortune befell the ship and her crew when they made landfall on Bermuda. Although the vessel was damaged on a surrounding coral reef, all survived and spent ten months on the unsettled isle. The Spaniards, though shipwrecked on the island many times, had failed to colonize there. The British claimed the island and quickly settled the subtropical isle. In May 1610, they set forth for Jamestown, this time arriving at their destination. This near catastrophe provided the inspiration and background for William Shakespeare's play, The Tempest. (Ref. The Tempest)

1882 - A vivid aurora was visible from Oregon to Maine, down the east coast as far as Mayport FL, and inland as far as Wellington KS. Observers at Louisville KY noted merry dancers across the sky, and observers at Saint Vincent, MN, noted it was probably the most brilliant ever seen at that location. (The Weather Channel)

1915: Tropical storm from the North Bahamas moved over the Washington, DC area on a northeast track gave 2.34 inches of rain and winds to 46 mph from the SE. (Ref. Washington Weather Records ) 75 people died in flooding at Erie, PA. Many streets were flooded and bridges washed away. (Ref. AccWeather Weather History)

1930: The temperature at Moorefield, WV soared to 112 degrees to establish a state record, having reached 110 degrees the previous day. Widespread drought after April of that year caused some towns to haul water for domestic use, and many manufacturing plants were barely operational.(The Weather Channel) (Ref. Additional Temperatures Listed On This Link)
 

1930 - The temperature at Moorefield, WV, soared to 112 degrees to establish a state record, having reached 110 degrees the previous day. Widespread drought after April of that year caused some towns to haul water for domestic use, and many manufacturing plants were barely operational. (The Weather Channel)

 

1961 - Spokane, WA, reached an all-time record high of 108 degrees. Kalispell, MT, set an all-time record with a reading of 105 degrees. (The Weather Channel)

1980 - A record forty-two consecutive days of 100 degree heat finally came to an end at the Dallas-Fort Worth Airport. July 1980 proved to be the hottest month of record with a mean temperature of 92 degrees. There was just one day of rain in July, and there was no measurable rain in August. There were 18 more days of 100 degree heat in August, and four in September. Hot weather that summer contributed to the deaths of 1200 people nationally, and losses from the heat across the country were estimated at twenty billion dollars. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

 

1981: This was a day to remember in portions of south central South Dakota as an unusually long lived thunderstorm wind event hit the area. In St. Francis a radio station reported a gust of 86 mph, but that was only the beginning. For the next 20 minutes winds of 50 to 70 mph hammered the area doing massive damage to trees and a few trailers in the area. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1982: The low temperature at Billings, MT was 60°. This began a string of 19 consecutive days on which the low temperature did not drop below 60°, the record longest such streak in August. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1987 - A cold front brought relief from the heat to a large part of the Midwest, while hot weather continued in the south central and eastern U.S. Morning thunderstorms in Nebraska deluged the town of Dalton with 8.71 inches of rain, along with hail three inches in diameter, which accumulated up to four feet deep near the town of Dix. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from eastern Iowa to Lower Michigan during the afternoon and evening hours, producing golf ball size hail and spawning several tornadoes. A thunderstorm at Maquoketa, IA, produced wind gusts to 75 mph. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from eastern Nebraska and northeastern Kansas to the Great Lakes Region, with 150 reports of large hail or damaging winds during the afternoon, evening, and nighttime hours. Thunderstorms produced tennis ball size hail at Claremont, MN, and wind gusts to 75 mph at Milwaukee, WI. Thunderstorms representing what once was Hurricane Chantal produced five inches of rain at Grant, MI, and deluged Chicago, IL, with more than three inches of rain in three hours. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)


1994: Boston, Massachusetts had 16 days from July 20 to August 4 giving the greatest number of days with temperatures of 70 degrees or above. (Ref. NOAA Boston Weather Events)

1995: Thunderstorms over northwest Iowa storms grew quickly, producing golf ball to baseball size hail over Palo Alto County near Ayrshire and Webb. As the storms moved south, a copious amount of hail was dropped. Just north of Rush Lake in Palo Alto County, pea-sized hail covered the ground to a depth of 12 inches. The storms then moved into northern Pocahontas County where they dropped softball size hail, which has a diameter of 4.50 inches, just north of Laurens. Golf ball size hail also continued to fall over Pocahontas County near the communities of Pocahontas and Havelock. The storms weakened a bit as they moved into Sac and Calhoun Counties. Crop damage totaled about $335,000 from these storms. Record heat prevailed across parts of the East. Record highs included: Philadelphia, PA: 98°, LaGuardia Airport (NYC), NY: 96°, Wilmington, DE: 96° and Bridgeport, CT: 93°.
(Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1998: College Station, Texas: The last of a string of 30 consecutive days with temperatures greater than 100 °F. 49 such days will be recorded in the blistering Summer of '98. (Ref. WxDoctor)  Dallas, TX saw its streak of 29 consecutive days with temperatures 100° or hotter come to an end. It was the second longest streak of 100° plus days in the city's history. Record highs occurred across the southwest including Borrego Springs, CA: 116°, Redding, CA: 112°, Victorville, CA: 110°, Stockton, CA: 109°, Sacramento, CA: 108°, Riverside, CA: 106°, Escondido, CA: 99°, Idyllwild, CA: 96°, Palomar Mountain, CA: 95° and Big Bear Lake, CA: 88° and San Francisco (Airport), CA: 87°. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2006: Washington DC: The temperature at Ronald Reagan National Airport reaches 101 °F the hottest ever for that day in the nation's capitol. (Ref. WxDoctor)


2008: Severe storms moved across northern Illinois and Indiana with tornadoes and stiff winds reported. With tornado sirens blaring, the game at Wrigley Field between Cubs and Astros was stopped as fans were told to evacuate to the lower concourse. Passengers at O’Hare International Airport were evacuated to lower levels of buildings as well. An estimated 350 flights were canceled. 


2012: Third of the top ten weather events - Summer Heat Wave. June 22-August 4. Extreme heat that began over the High Plains, expanded to the Fast Coast, and then centered on the Heartland broke thousands of temperature records and resulted in July 2012 edging out July 1936 as the hottest month on record for the contiguous United States. The heat, which was blamed for over 100 deaths, contributed to the drought that affected much of the country. Top 2012 Weather Events (Ref.Weatherwise May/June 2013 volumn 66 /number3 page 17)

2020: Tropical Storm Isaias hit the eastern third of Virginia hardest on Tuesday morning during its brief but destructive journey up the Eastern Seaboard. Several hours of torrential rain flooded dozens of roads, while winds gusting past 45 mph downed trees and put hundreds of thousands of homes and businesses in the dark. The storm left scattered road closures and power outages in metro Richmond and more widespread disruption across the Tidewater region, where winds approached 70 mph. No serious damage was reported in the western half of the state. (Ref. The Richmond Times Dispatch)(Ref. The Richmond Times Dispatch)

[SACRUS]

 

 

 

The area to watch in the coming 1 - 2 weeks off the s central atlantic.

 

[donsutherland1]

1 hour ago, Dark Star said:

Time to retire...

Not until at least my son finishes college (he's only starting high school this fall).

[jm1220]

Hazy look to the sky today. Smoke is back! 

[Wannabehippie]

12 hours ago, SACRUS said:

 

 

2 fish storms, possibly 3, depending on how close to shore the one off the SE coast forms, if it forms.

[ag3]

8 hours ago, psv88 said:

Plenty of people who don’t fish use their boats. Coming from someone at the marina every week…also no sailboaters fish and they are out a lot as well. 
 

what keeps people from using their boats is kids sports and bad weather. That’s about it 

Those aren’t the people who “love” fishing. Those are casuals.

[ag3]

2 hours ago, Dark Star said:

I guess the season is even shorter for the sea-faring lads.  Those cold ocean breezes can make a day that is nice inland, miserable on the water?

The best fishing around here is during the colder months. April-June and then October through December.

[TimB]

19 hours ago, WestBabylonWeather said:

Living on LI I wish I had one. I’m jealous when I eat on the water and people pull up on their boats. But the costs are just too much. From paying the marina to the fuel to the repairs. I don’t know how people do it

Wait, you live on Long Island?

[bluewave]

57 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Hazy look to the sky today. Smoke is back! 

2nd worst air quality in the world for Toronto following the smokiest July on record in Winnipeg.

 

[jm1220]

11 minutes ago, bluewave said:

2nd worst air quality in the world for Toronto following the smokiest July on record in Winnipeg.

 

I guess instead of cold or warm fronts now, we have smoke fronts. 

[bluewave]

6 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

I guess instead of cold or warm fronts now, we have smoke fronts. 

It’s tough when Canada is having record heat and drought and they keep getting all these lightning strikes. 
 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-wildfires-1.7599568

BC’s fire season is surging as the number of active wildfires more than doubled from 61 on Thursday to 134 by Friday morning, according to the B.C. Wildfire Service (BCWS).

The service says the surprising increase in fires can be attributed to the more than 35,000 lightning strikes on July 30 and 31 — with even more expected, as severe thunderstorm watches remained in place on Friday for a large swatch of the southern Interior and stretching into locations in the northeast.

[LibertyBell]

5 hours ago, bluewave said:

It was only the 2nd 80° behind 2010. But it felt warmer this time around since the dewpoints were so much higher. The average max finished just behind 2010.

Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY June 21st through July 31th AVG Temp
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

1	2010-07-31	80.7	0
2	2025-07-31	80.0	0
3	2020-07-31	78.5	0
4	2013-07-31	78.4	0
-	2011-07-31	78.4	0
5	2012-07-31	78.2	0
6	2019-07-31	78.1	0
-	1949-07-31	78.1	0
7	2016-07-31	78.0	0
8	2024-07-31	77.6	0
-	2015-07-31	77.6	0
-	2002-07-31	77.6	0
9	1993-07-31	77.5	0
10	2022-07-31	77.4	0
-	1999-07-31	77.4	0
-	1983-07-31	77.4

 

Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY June 21st Through July 31st Max AVG Temp
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

1	2010-07-31	89.2	0
2	2025-07-31	87.6	0
3	2011-07-31	86.5	0
4	2019-07-31	86.3	0
-	1966-07-31	86.3	0
5	2012-07-31	86.1	0
-	1963-07-31	86.1	0
-	1949-07-31	86.1	0
6	2020-07-31	86.0	0
7	2002-07-31	85.9	0
8	2013-07-31	85.6	0
9	1993-07-31	85.5	0
10	2016-07-31	85.3	0
-	1983-07-31	85.3	0

Excellent, I am glad it finished at 80.0 as opposed to the tainted July average which was infected with what happened on the evening of the 31st (I don't agree with the new *day* beginning at midnight.)

 

[LibertyBell]

55 minutes ago, bluewave said:

It’s tough when Canada is having record heat and drought and they keep getting all these lightning strikes. 
 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-wildfires-1.7599568

 

BC’s fire season is surging as the number of active wildfires more than doubled from 61 on Thursday to 134 by Friday morning, according to the B.C. Wildfire Service (BCWS).

The service says the surprising increase in fires can be attributed to the more than 35,000 lightning strikes on July 30 and 31 — with even more expected, as severe thunderstorm watches remained in place on Friday for a large swatch of the southern Interior and stretching into locations in the northeast.

Cant they do air drops like we do in California with fire retardant?  Or maybe they just don't have the funds to do what we do to stop forest fires?

At some point this will have to be dealt with permanently, even if that means chopping down the trees.

Canada has a large logging industry, they could take care of this.

We can't just sit back and do nothing, this is a permanent problem and won't go away next year or in 5 years or in a decade.  And there is a huge health risk with this air pollutant, Chicago is the 7th most polluted city on the planet right now because of it.

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, SACRUS said:

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 100 (1993)
NYC: 100 (1944)
LGA: 99 (1944)
JFK: 93 (2006)


Lows:

EWR: 58 (1945)
NYC: 55 (1874)
LGA: 62 (1964)
JFK: 57 (1964)


Historical:

 

 

1609: Sir Thomas Gates, future governor of Virginia, was on his way to England from Jamestown. On Saint James Day, while between Cuba and the Bahamas, a "most terrible and vehement storm" raged for 44 hours. One of the small vessels in the fleet sank to the bottom of the Florida Straits. Four of the remaining vessels reached Virginia soon after the storm...followed a few days later by three other ships. The flagship, known as Sea Adventure, disappeared and was presumed lost. A small bit of fortune befell the ship and her crew when they made landfall on Bermuda. Although the vessel was damaged on a surrounding coral reef, all survived and spent ten months on the unsettled isle. The Spaniards, though shipwrecked on the island many times, had failed to colonize there. The British claimed the island and quickly settled the subtropical isle. In May 1610, they set forth for Jamestown, this time arriving at their destination. This near catastrophe provided the inspiration and background for William Shakespeare's play, The Tempest. (Ref. The Tempest)

1882 - A vivid aurora was visible from Oregon to Maine, down the east coast as far as Mayport FL, and inland as far as Wellington KS. Observers at Louisville KY noted merry dancers across the sky, and observers at Saint Vincent, MN, noted it was probably the most brilliant ever seen at that location. (The Weather Channel)

1915: Tropical storm from the North Bahamas moved over the Washington, DC area on a northeast track gave 2.34 inches of rain and winds to 46 mph from the SE. (Ref. Washington Weather Records ) 75 people died in flooding at Erie, PA. Many streets were flooded and bridges washed away. (Ref. AccWeather Weather History)

1930: The temperature at Moorefield, WV soared to 112 degrees to establish a state record, having reached 110 degrees the previous day. Widespread drought after April of that year caused some towns to haul water for domestic use, and many manufacturing plants were barely operational.(The Weather Channel) (Ref. Additional Temperatures Listed On This Link)
 

1930 - The temperature at Moorefield, WV, soared to 112 degrees to establish a state record, having reached 110 degrees the previous day. Widespread drought after April of that year caused some towns to haul water for domestic use, and many manufacturing plants were barely operational. (The Weather Channel)

 

1961 - Spokane, WA, reached an all-time record high of 108 degrees. Kalispell, MT, set an all-time record with a reading of 105 degrees. (The Weather Channel)

1980 - A record forty-two consecutive days of 100 degree heat finally came to an end at the Dallas-Fort Worth Airport. July 1980 proved to be the hottest month of record with a mean temperature of 92 degrees. There was just one day of rain in July, and there was no measurable rain in August. There were 18 more days of 100 degree heat in August, and four in September. Hot weather that summer contributed to the deaths of 1200 people nationally, and losses from the heat across the country were estimated at twenty billion dollars. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

 

1981: This was a day to remember in portions of south central South Dakota as an unusually long lived thunderstorm wind event hit the area. In St. Francis a radio station reported a gust of 86 mph, but that was only the beginning. For the next 20 minutes winds of 50 to 70 mph hammered the area doing massive damage to trees and a few trailers in the area. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1982: The low temperature at Billings, MT was 60°. This began a string of 19 consecutive days on which the low temperature did not drop below 60°, the record longest such streak in August. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1987 - A cold front brought relief from the heat to a large part of the Midwest, while hot weather continued in the south central and eastern U.S. Morning thunderstorms in Nebraska deluged the town of Dalton with 8.71 inches of rain, along with hail three inches in diameter, which accumulated up to four feet deep near the town of Dix. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from eastern Iowa to Lower Michigan during the afternoon and evening hours, producing golf ball size hail and spawning several tornadoes. A thunderstorm at Maquoketa, IA, produced wind gusts to 75 mph. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from eastern Nebraska and northeastern Kansas to the Great Lakes Region, with 150 reports of large hail or damaging winds during the afternoon, evening, and nighttime hours. Thunderstorms produced tennis ball size hail at Claremont, MN, and wind gusts to 75 mph at Milwaukee, WI. Thunderstorms representing what once was Hurricane Chantal produced five inches of rain at Grant, MI, and deluged Chicago, IL, with more than three inches of rain in three hours. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)


1994: Boston, Massachusetts had 16 days from July 20 to August 4 giving the greatest number of days with temperatures of 70 degrees or above. (Ref. NOAA Boston Weather Events)

1995: Thunderstorms over northwest Iowa storms grew quickly, producing golf ball to baseball size hail over Palo Alto County near Ayrshire and Webb. As the storms moved south, a copious amount of hail was dropped. Just north of Rush Lake in Palo Alto County, pea-sized hail covered the ground to a depth of 12 inches. The storms then moved into northern Pocahontas County where they dropped softball size hail, which has a diameter of 4.50 inches, just north of Laurens. Golf ball size hail also continued to fall over Pocahontas County near the communities of Pocahontas and Havelock. The storms weakened a bit as they moved into Sac and Calhoun Counties. Crop damage totaled about $335,000 from these storms. Record heat prevailed across parts of the East. Record highs included: Philadelphia, PA: 98°, LaGuardia Airport (NYC), NY: 96°, Wilmington, DE: 96° and Bridgeport, CT: 93°.
(Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1998: College Station, Texas: The last of a string of 30 consecutive days with temperatures greater than 100 °F. 49 such days will be recorded in the blistering Summer of '98. (Ref. WxDoctor)  Dallas, TX saw its streak of 29 consecutive days with temperatures 100° or hotter come to an end. It was the second longest streak of 100° plus days in the city's history. Record highs occurred across the southwest including Borrego Springs, CA: 116°, Redding, CA: 112°, Victorville, CA: 110°, Stockton, CA: 109°, Sacramento, CA: 108°, Riverside, CA: 106°, Escondido, CA: 99°, Idyllwild, CA: 96°, Palomar Mountain, CA: 95° and Big Bear Lake, CA: 88° and San Francisco (Airport), CA: 87°. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2006: Washington DC: The temperature at Ronald Reagan National Airport reaches 101 °F the hottest ever for that day in the nation's capitol. (Ref. WxDoctor)


2008: Severe storms moved across northern Illinois and Indiana with tornadoes and stiff winds reported. With tornado sirens blaring, the game at Wrigley Field between Cubs and Astros was stopped as fans were told to evacuate to the lower concourse. Passengers at O’Hare International Airport were evacuated to lower levels of buildings as well. An estimated 350 flights were canceled. 


2012: Third of the top ten weather events - Summer Heat Wave. June 22-August 4. Extreme heat that began over the High Plains, expanded to the Fast Coast, and then centered on the Heartland broke thousands of temperature records and resulted in July 2012 edging out July 1936 as the hottest month on record for the contiguous United States. The heat, which was blamed for over 100 deaths, contributed to the drought that affected much of the country. Top 2012 Weather Events (Ref.Weatherwise May/June 2013 volumn 66 /number3 page 17)

2020: Tropical Storm Isaias hit the eastern third of Virginia hardest on Tuesday morning during its brief but destructive journey up the Eastern Seaboard. Several hours of torrential rain flooded dozens of roads, while winds gusting past 45 mph downed trees and put hundreds of thousands of homes and businesses in the dark. The storm left scattered road closures and power outages in metro Richmond and more widespread disruption across the Tidewater region, where winds approached 70 mph. No serious damage was reported in the western half of the state. (Ref. The Richmond Times Dispatch)(Ref. The Richmond Times Dispatch)

1980 - A record forty-two consecutive days of 100 degree heat finally came to an end at the Dallas-Fort Worth Airport. July 1980 proved to be the hottest month of record with a mean temperature of 92 degrees. There was just one day of rain in July, and there was no measurable rain in August. There were 18 more days of 100 degree heat in August, and four in September. Hot weather that summer contributed to the deaths of 1200 people nationally, and losses from the heat across the country were estimated at twenty billion dollars. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

 

epic endless heat in 1980

 

1995: Thunderstorms over northwest Iowa storms grew quickly, producing golf ball to baseball size hail over Palo Alto County near Ayrshire and Webb. As the storms moved south, a copious amount of hail was dropped. Just north of Rush Lake in Palo Alto County, pea-sized hail covered the ground to a depth of 12 inches. The storms then moved into northern Pocahontas County where they dropped softball size hail, which has a diameter of 4.50 inches, just north of Laurens. Golf ball size hail also continued to fall over Pocahontas County near the communities of Pocahontas and Havelock. The storms weakened a bit as they moved into Sac and Calhoun Counties. Crop damage totaled about $335,000 from these storms. Record heat prevailed across parts of the East. Record highs included: Philadelphia, PA: 98°, LaGuardia Airport (NYC), NY: 96°, Wilmington, DE: 96° and Bridgeport, CT: 93°.
(Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 

1995 hot and dry August was just beginning here

 

Highs:

EWR: 100 (1993)
NYC: 100 (1944)
LGA: 99 (1944)
JFK: 93 (2006)

 

epic endless heat in 1993 and 1944 too

 

 

[SACRUS]

 

84 / 58 a touch more humid vs the past 2 days.