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July 2025 Obs/Disco ... possible historic month for heat


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We get a 2...maybe 3 day break from the dews after the Sunday FROPA but dews crank right back up mid-to-late week ahead of the next front. Of course dews will drop again the next FROPA but its only for another day or 2. The overall theme is high humidity and near oppressive at times. A few day break due to a FROPA doesn't change what the overall theme is.

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Not going to lie, it does look a lot more refreshing this weekend and next week.  There are definitely some gradient days in there for dews, like Sunday, where up north might miss out.

But Monday through Thursday of next week looks to offer relief.

At least up here, it looks like we see more dews in the 40s and 50s than we do in the 60s for a week starting on Friday.

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3 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

We get a 2...maybe 3 day break from the dews after the Sunday FROPA but dews crank right back up mid-to-late week ahead of the next front. Of course dews will drop again the next FROPA but its only for another day or 2. The overall theme is high humidity and near oppressive at times. A few day break due to a FROPA doesn't change what the overall theme is.

I mean it's mid summer.  The overall theme is it is mid summer.

There will be some relief though mixed in, which has not been happening.  2-3 days would be 2-3 days more than folks have seen lately.  Though I feel more confident up here than I do south of RT 2 and especially south of the Pike where you guys do 70 dews as soon as the flow comes out of the south in any manner.

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5 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Not going to lie, it does look a lot more refreshing this weekend and next week.  There are definitely some gradient days in there for dews, like Sunday, where up north might miss out.

But Monday through Thursday of next week looks to offer relief.

At least up here, it looks like we see more dews in the 40s and 50s than we do in the 60s for a week starting on Friday.

 

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1 minute ago, powderfreak said:

I mean it's mid summer.  The overall theme is it is mid summer.

There will be some relief though mixed in, which has not been happening.  2-3 days would be 2-3 days more than folks have seen lately.  Though I feel more confident up here than I do south of RT 2 and especially south of the Pike where you guys do 70 dews as soon as the flow comes out of the south in any manner.

Things just seem much different. Our breaks from this stuff used to be like several days...heck, we could go weeks without 70+ dews. I seriously think we're going to get some stretches moving into August where dews are 77-80F. 

It's also not helping matters that oppressive dews are being transported well into the upper-Midwest and into central Canada so what used to drying out NW or WNW flows turns into just another source region for higher dews lol. So our fropas result in dews going from 70's to 60's to round 70 lol

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4 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

Things just seem much different. Our breaks from this stuff used to be like several days...heck, we could go weeks without 70+ dews. I seriously think we're going to get some stretches moving into August where dews are 77-80F. 

It's also not helping matters that oppressive dews are being transported well into the upper-Midwest and into central Canada so what used to drying out NW or WNW flows turns into just another source region for higher dews lol. So our fropas result in dews going from 70's to 60's to round 70 lol

Oh it is.  Up here feels like what I remember CT being as a kid in Woodstock.

Like I've been saying, our average minimums should be solidly in the 50s.  Which usually means dews in the 50s.  

Our average low this month is 62F and running +6.1 for July in the means at MVL.

That is INSANE for a summer month.  

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3 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Oh it is.  Up here feels like what I remember CT being as a kid in Woodstock.

Like I've been saying, our average minimums should be solidly in the 50s.  Which usually means dews in the 50s.  

Our average low this month is 62F and running +6.1 for July.  That is INSANE for a summer month.

I was explaining this to my girlfriends parents...though not sure they fully grasp it living in Florida. I think their takeaway was "oh my God that's chilly" when I talked about how lows should be down into the 50's within northern New England :lol: 

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19 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Oh it is.  Up here feels like what I remember CT being as a kid in Woodstock.

Like I've been saying, our average minimums should be solidly in the 50s.  Which usually means dews in the 50s.  

Our average low this month is 62F and running +6.1 for July.  That is INSANE for a summer month.

And the funniest part is there’s several posters that say it’s not been a hot humid top 3-5 hottest Julorch  despite all the actual data and facts showing it . And cite Logan’s runway in the north Atlantic as their argument. :lmao: 

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16 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Scooters warm pool eddy in the Atlantic ensures that most of SNE stays mainly humid well into Sept. A day here and there of lower dew near 60 after a fropa, but they come right back .. like hair on a freshly shaven back 

..and by then will you be saying how terrible the winter of 25/26 is going to be because of the lingering heat and humidity??

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13 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

I was explaining this to my girlfriends parents...though not sure they fully grasp it living in Florida. I think their takeaway was "oh my God that's chilly" when I talked about how lows should be down into the 50's within northern New England :lol: 

 

10 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

And the funniest part is there’s several posters that say it’s not been a hot humid too 3-5 Julotch despite all the actual data and facts showing it . And cite Logan’s runway in the north Atlantic as their argument. :lmao: 

The increased moisture and dews just remove the radiating from the radiators and man the temperature departures get out of hand in a hurry.

These are the current 30-year normals... I can't wait to see what it looks like after we bake this decade in:

Saint Johnsbury... 80/58

Morrisville-Stowe... 79/55

Montpelier... 78/56

Mid-July normals are highs near 80 and lows in the 50s.  That implies there should be a bunch of days cooler than that level too.

It's just hard to even imagine running a current July with those averages.  All three sites are +5.7 to +6.1 on the July through the first half of the month.

 

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